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14 hours ago, Gannan said:

Your orange god created record breaking debt and deficits while you cheered. Stop trying to pretend you care about the debt now. 

This dude still pretending to be a libertarian? lmfao

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49 minutes ago, Kz! said:

This dude still pretending to be a libertarian? lmfao

Is Biden the most libertarian president ever? Probably. 

Just now, Gannan said:

Is Biden the most libertarian president ever? Probably. 

If there was a libertarian Mount Rushmore it would be Biden, four times.

Moar of this please:

 

They're no Hanson, but I'm here for this:

It's a nationwide global movement!

Let's go Brandon!

17 minutes ago, Kz! said:

They're no Hanson, but I'm here for this:

It's a nationwide global movement!

 

 

The old school Dems will soon become the new Republican party and progressives will be the left. Republicans will be a fringe Libertarian type party. 

 

Biden to meet House progressives on path to reconciliation package

President Biden will meet Monday afternoon with House progressives in an effort to chart a path forward on a reconciliation package and see what measures can be agreed upon in a bill, the White House said.

Biden will meet virtually with progressive members of the House Democratic Caucus on Monday, followed later in the week by a virtual meeting with moderate lawmakers, press secretary Jen Psaki said.

Monday's virtual discussion will focus on "the path forward, which includes the recognition that this package is going to be smaller than originally proposed. And what he wants to hear from them is what their priorities are, what their bottom lines are so he can play a constructive role in moving things forward."

Biden's meetings are likely to focus on coming up with an acceptable top-line figure for a budget reconciliation package containing administration priorities like funding for health care programs, child care and climate change policies. 

Thehill.com/homenews/administration/575213-biden-to-meet-house-progressives-on-path-to-reconciliation?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16334457590958&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F575213-biden-to-meet-house-progressives-on-path-to-reconciliation 

26 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

The old school Dems will soon become the new Republican party and progressives will be the left. Republicans will be a fringe Libertarian type party. 

 

Biden to meet House progressives on path to reconciliation package

President Biden will meet Monday afternoon with House progressives in an effort to chart a path forward on a reconciliation package and see what measures can be agreed upon in a bill, the White House said.

Biden will meet virtually with progressive members of the House Democratic Caucus on Monday, followed later in the week by a virtual meeting with moderate lawmakers, press secretary Jen Psaki said.

Monday's virtual discussion will focus on "the path forward, which includes the recognition that this package is going to be smaller than originally proposed. And what he wants to hear from them is what their priorities are, what their bottom lines are so he can play a constructive role in moving things forward."

Biden's meetings are likely to focus on coming up with an acceptable top-line figure for a budget reconciliation package containing administration priorities like funding for health care programs, child care and climate change policies. 

Thehill.com/homenews/administration/575213-biden-to-meet-house-progressives-on-path-to-reconciliation?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16334457590958&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F575213-biden-to-meet-house-progressives-on-path-to-reconciliation 

A trump-hijacked GOP will suddenly become socially liberal and fiscally conservative? Good one.

20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

A trump-hijacked GOP will suddenly become socially liberal and fiscally conservative? Good one.

Tell me where I said that.

A fringe party like the libertarian party.

I would love to dismiss Trumpbots as a fringe, but about 40% of the country follows that lunatic. 

15 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Tell me where I said that.

A fringe party like the libertarian party.

Well, if that's what you meant, that's probably even more unlikely. Trumpism is firmly entrenched in the party and its followers are here to stay, there's no chance whatsoever that they're gonna let a bunch of moderate left-leaning dems take over their party.

Trumpism aka neo-fascism is on the rise in both Europe and America. Income inequality has given rise to an angry resentful populism. Instability in South and Central America, the Middle East and other parts of the world has created an unsustainable refugee crises, which in turn has produced angry uber nationalism. Putting that nationalism together with an angry resentful populism is the prefect recipe for fascism. This was almost inevitable and its not going away any time soon. 

3 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Trumpism aka neo-fascism is on the rise in both Europe and America. Income inequality has given rise to an angry resentful populism. Instability in South and Central America, the Middle East and other parts of the world has created an unsustainable refugee crises, which in turn has produced angry uber nationalism. Putting that nationalism together with an angry resentful populism is the prefect recipe for fascism. This was almost inevitable and its not going away any time soon. 

Couldn't find a way to squeeze racism into your novella about isms?  What a failure :nonono:

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Couldn't find a way to squeeze racism into your novella about isms?  What a failure :nonono:

The racist elements of Trumpism are intermingled with the nationalist elements, but I understand that you're not intelligent enough to parse that out for yourself. 

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10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Trumpism aka neo-fascism is on the rise in both Europe and America. Income inequality has given rise to an angry resentful populism. Instability in South and Central America, the Middle East and other parts of the world has created an unsustainable refugee crises, which in turn has produced angry uber nationalism. Putting that nationalism together with an angry resentful populism is the prefect recipe for fascism. This was almost inevitable and its not going away any time soon. 

So, what do we do about it?

2 minutes ago, toolg said:

So, what do we do about it?

From a policy standpoint we have to reengage with the world. Isolationism is part of what is causing this. The other part is to try to tackle out of control income inequality. The idea that corporations are exempt from income taxes is absurd. Additionally, the fact that labor is taxed at a higher rate than capitol is also responsible for driving this. 

Just now, Gannan said:

From a policy standpoint we have to reengage with the world. Isolationism is part of what is causing this. The other part is to try to tackle out of control income inequality. The idea that corporations are exempt from income taxes is absurd. Additionally, the fact that labor is taxed at a higher rate than capitol is also responsible for driving this. 

Right, I agree. I think we have to re-engage the masses, the ones who feel the world has left them behind. Work on the inequities; while the rich get richer, the lower classes are stuck with seeming nowhere to turn. They blame "others" but it's isolationism that pulls them even further into the trap. The last time this happened it took a large World War to get the populace re-engaged, and for large investment in the masses. I worry that is where we are heading.

1 minute ago, toolg said:

Right, I agree. I think we have to re-engage the masses, the ones who feel the world has left them behind. Work on the inequities; while the rich get richer, the lower classes are stuck with seeming nowhere to turn. They blame "others" but it's isolationism that pulls them even further into the trap. The last time this happened it took a large World War to get the populace re-engaged, and for large investment in the masses. I worry that is where we are heading.

I'm worried that's where we are heading as well. The totalitarian regimes are all aligning together (Russia, Belarus, China, Hungary, Iran, North Korea). I think we are heading for a major war in the next 20-30 years.

the scarier question is...

If there is a major war in 25 years between democracy and fascism, which side will we be on by then?

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

the scarier question is...

If there is a major war in 25 years between democracy and fascism, which side will we be on by then?

All my life up to about 5 or 10 years ago, I thought I knew the answer. Now I'm not so sure.

45 minutes ago, Gannan said:

The racist elements of Trumpism are intermingled with the nationalist elements, but I understand that you're not intelligent enough to parse that out for yourself. 

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Thank you for the daily reminder of how self important you CVON dorks are 

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Thank you for the daily reminder of how self important you CVON dorks are 

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56 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Thank you for the daily reminder of how self important you CVON dorks are 

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