November 5, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: I fall in the median, lean left a bit, but am closer to Libertarian in some stuff like limiting Government. But I am also a independent thinker, which neither Dems nor Repubs like Ah yes, "I'm not a Trump supporter but..." Been a while since we've seen that gem.
November 5, 20213 yr Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said: He doesn't. And neither does the other members of the petty liberal cult in here. Ohh they def know the narrative. They can def Group Speak very well. How dare anyone actually think for themselves. Actually falls in line that these people like more government control, so they can be told what to do, and they dont have to think for themselves, and or take any responsibility for themselves and or their actions. None of this is their fault.
November 5, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ah yes, "I'm not a Trump supporter but..." Been a while since we've seen that gem. Not a trump support, but I voted for him. The policies he ran on and implemented were good for all. I did not like the Dem Platform. And we are seeing it play out NOW. I realize nuance is not something everyone can recongnize. For some, if you are not a Biden Supporter you must be a Trump supporter. Yeah ok, what is this elementary school?
November 5, 20213 yr Just now, Ipiggles said: Not a trump support, but I voted for him. The policies he ran on and implemented were good for all. I did not like the Dem Platform. And we are seeing it play out NOW.
November 5, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm not saying Biden's been great, but he's miles better than that last ass clown. If you can't admit that, then you've been asleep during the entire pandemic. Don't talk to me about the economy or inflation without the context of the worst pandemic in a century that's had massive global implications. Keep telling yourself that. He's just as bad. Dems discussing Biden...
November 5, 20213 yr trump didn't have policies. he had 3 word slogans & a lust for power & wealth. you guys have been conned by the con man & you still don't realize it. sad.
November 5, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, sameaglesfan said: Keep telling yourself that. He's just as bad. Dems discussing Biden... Sad but accurate.
November 5, 20213 yr Holy sheet guys. I think no matter where you fall on the political spectrum, we can all admit that Biden's doing an amazing job of getting America back to work.
November 5, 20213 yr Just now, sameaglesfan said: Keep telling yourself that. He's just as bad. Dems discussing Biden... Until you and or any of the other trumpbots give me specific examples of how he'd have steered us out of the pandemic faster, limited inflation, or somehow suddenly became sane after having demonstrated legit mentally ill behavior, then save it. Bring details or kindly stfu.
November 5, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm not saying Biden's been great, but he's miles better than that last ass clown. If you can't admit that, then you've been asleep during the entire pandemic. Don't talk to me about the economy or inflation without the context of the worst pandemic in a century that's had massive global implications. I think as leaders, they both suck. I understand that line of thinking isn't the norm in here though, as mostly everyone is extremely to one side or the other.
November 5, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: trump didn't have policies. he had 3 word slogans & a lust for power & wealth. you guys have been conned by the con man & you still don't realize it. sad. OK, sure if you say so. NO deregulation POlicy, there was zero Middle east policies, Yet business floorished, and there were peace deals in the Middle east. just as 2 examples. Well whatever it was, it worked. Now without what ever you want to call it, we have what we have today, Inflation, Shortages etc.... I know but Trump.
November 5, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Holy sheet guys. I think no matter where you fall on the political spectrum, we can all admit that Biden's doing an amazing job of getting America back to work. More like people are being forced back into the workforce en masse now that unemployment subsidies have run out and they can't get paid to sit on their couch anymore.
November 5, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Holy sheet guys. I think no matter where you fall on the political spectrum, we can all admit that Biden's doing an amazing job of getting America back to work. Roughly 10 million Americans are unemployed, yet hiring slowed sharply in April as the US reopened. The labor-shortage trend has less to do with too few workers and more to do with rethinking labor. The pandemic and stimulus led Americans to reevaluate work — and demand higher pay for it. See more stories on Insider's business page.
November 5, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I think as leaders, they both suck. I understand that line of thinking isn't the norm in here though, as mostly everyone is extremely to one side or the other. You didn't just say they both suck, you said we'd clearly be better off with Trump, did you not? Give me specifics on how we'd be better off. Just saying "they both suck" doesn't cut it.
November 5, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: They have a checklist of talking points and rarely do they go off script. Say one thing sideways about President Pop Pop and the yeah-buts come out. It's personal for them. Pretty sad TBH. well they all own this. They own Afghanistan, the high inflation rate, the Supply chain shortages... It's all theirs.
November 5, 20213 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: You didn't just say they both suck, you said we'd clearly be better off with Trump, did you not? Give me specifics on how we'd be better off. Just saying "they both suck" doesn't cut it. Ahh amnesia Inflation, Afghanistan, Supply chain shortages, border crises increased. I know BUT TRUMP.
November 5, 20213 yr 58 minutes ago, The_Omega said: The payments to the illegals is the veneer that hides the classic Washington corruption involved here. The illegals won’t get close to half this money. This is a payoff to the ACLU, will fund them for at least a year, and leave plenty left over for kickbacks to the politicians (and 10% to the big guy, of course). They’re happy to have people enraged about paying illegal immigrants to break our laws, it deflects from their true intentions. the story is not as simple as Trumplicans want it to be. you have people suing the US government in court over the child separation policy that your preferred moron of a president put in place. so the only people this affects is those who had children separated from them by our dip-ish former president's policy, and the US DOJ can either decide to let it play out in court or settle the case out of court. the cause of the problem is abundantly clear: Trump's policies continue to inflict costs. one way or the other, whether this is fought in the courts or settled out of court, this is the price tag of stupidity. all you MAGA people who cheered on the "cruelty is the point" border policies can either step back and acknowledge that "maybe we could have done this a different way" or you can double-down on stupidity. I know what some of you will choose, though despite our differences of opinion I know you @The_Omega have a moral compass and might, even if you don't always express it, actually consider the full story.
November 5, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: They have a checklist of talking points and rarely do they go off script. Say one thing sideways about President Pop Pop and the yeah-buts come out. It's personal for them. Pretty sad TBH. with all the $$$ i've invested in biden flags, signs, & hats...you're damn right it's personal!
November 5, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, Outlaw said: More like people are being forced back into the workforce en masse now that unemployment subsidies have run out and they can't get paid to sit on their couch anymore. If that was true you'd have seen people flocking back to work sooner in the states that suspended those benefits earlier. But you didn't see that. I for one was supportive of rolling back those policies sooner nationally, and was rather surprised that they didn't make measurable difference in those states that chose to end benefits sooner. But that's the truth of it.
November 5, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: OK, sure if you say so. NO deregulation POlicy, there was zero Middle east policies, Yet business floorished, and there were peace deals in the Middle east. just as 2 examples. Well whatever it was, it worked. Now without what ever you want to call it, we have what we have today, Inflation, Shortages etc.... I know but Trump. Serious question, did you make it through middle school?
November 5, 20213 yr 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: You didn't just say they both suck, you said we'd clearly be better off with Trump, did you not? Give me specifics on how we'd be better off. Just saying "they both suck" doesn't cut it. I did not say that we'd be better off with Trump right now. But frankly, the pivot from energy independence to begging OPEC to turn the spigot on and the surge at the border are two examples of issues we would not be dealing with like we are right now. We also wouldn't have lost 13 soldiers in Afghanistan or left other Americans behind. The difference between you and I is that I see positives and negatives to both administrations. For most in here it's "President X bad, President y good" line of thinking only.
November 5, 20213 yr 15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Until you and or any of the other trumpbots give me specific examples of how he'd have steered us out of the pandemic faster, limited inflation, or somehow suddenly became sane after having demonstrated legit mentally ill behavior, then save it. Bring details or kindly stfu.
November 5, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Ahh amnesia Inflation, Afghanistan, Supply chain shortages, border crises increased. I know BUT TRUMP. Yeah, I mean, I know all trumpbots are illiterate, but those aren't specifics. Start with a dictionary if any of the words I'm using are confusing to you.
November 5, 20213 yr 16 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Ahh amnesia Inflation, Afghanistan, Supply chain shortages, border crises increased. I know BUT TRUMP. 1. Inflation happens when you have to stimulate the economy back to life. We went through this same thing song and dance over a decade ago. 2. Yep, we're out of Afghanistan. You're welcome. 3. Supply chain shortages affected by a pandemic. Man, if only Biden had actually reacted to the pandemic when it was first being observed we might have been able to blunt the spread. 4. Ah yes, of course. The caravans. The invading brown armies of rapists and murderers that seemingly blink in and out of existence based on who the current president is.
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