1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

but by all means, please assume the worst. 

Keep in mind this man has been on video pinching a little girl's nipple and then that little girl confirmed on social media that he did pinch her nipple, but yeah, he definitely gets the benefit of the doubt.  

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

she mentions she had showers with her dad which are "probably inappropriate" in hindsight. 

she doesn't allege anything approaching abuse, nor does she even mention her age. 

but by all means, please assume the worst. 

This is an excuse. 

Why cant we all say that it is cringe worthy at best? I mean- cmon. It is. I dont care who it is, If Trump's daughter had said this, you guys would have had a stroke. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

Hey I make no excuses for Trump and his behavior. I would say thats cringe worthy. 

I guess you have whataboutism'ed this now? 

 

Now How do you feel about Biden having showers with his young daughter? 

Not a big deal to me. I showered with my father when I was like 5 years old. Don't pretend that parents have never done this.

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Yeah, it's as if no GOP kid has ever showered with their parents, ever. 

I dont care who it is, name them and I will say the same thing. It's wrong. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The sooner Trump disappears the better....

 

They just tried to justified Biden's showers.......not shocking....

Crazy. But I do think part of the progressive policy is to desensitize pedophelia. Not saying all liberals are ok with it, but the far left? If not it sure seems like it. 

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Not a big deal to me. I showered with my father when I was like 5 years old. Don't pretend that parents have never done this.

do you like movies about gladiators? 

 

edit: i botched the damn quote   

Just now, mr_hunt said:

do you like gladiator movies? 

Nope.

4 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Not a big deal to me. I showered with my father when I was like 5 years old. Don't pretend that parents have never done this.

well that may explain a few things. 

It is not something I would ever think of doing. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

well that may explains a few things. 

It is not something I would ever think of doing. 

Why is that, because you assume, right off the bat, it has to be sexual? 

11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

The right is pretty quick to assume inappropriate behavior from Biden when they went out of their way to ignore or explain away lots of inappropriate behavior and utterances of Trump towards Ivanka over the years. 

Those of you who are parents, have you really never had a situation where you had to shower with your kid? There is of course a time when this becomes inappropriate, but both my wife and I have had times where one of our kids ended up showering with us. Sometimes it's because you're in a hurry and it's easier to get them cleaned up with you. Or you're traveling and need to be efficient with water and time.

Nothing in the diary alleges anything sinister happened. She may have memories of showering at 4-5 years old and think that in hindsight it wasn't appropriate, but doesn't allege that her father did anything more than wash up together.

I can understand that parents can have a wide range of opinions on appropriateness around these topics. But there are plenty of perfectly normal and healthy parents who have taken baths or showers with their children (up to some age of course), because there are plenty of people who culturally simply don't have some sort of "shame" about their body ingrained for one reason or another. And unless his daughter actually alleged her father touched her in some manner that is inappropriate - which she does not do - there doesn't seem to be anything to this. 

TL DR past the first part but no I’ve never bathed with my daughter you effing pedo freak 

I was wondering if ishlibs were silent cause it was the weekend or because they were ashamed - hoo boy have they not disappointed so far  

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ahhhh yes.  The "save time so we all will have to shower together" excuse.  In the mid-80's Biden was a ranking minority member and sat on the judiciary committee.  But yes, a man in his position would need carve out time to take a shower with his young daughter to "save time"....  Makes sense.  

 

I wonder if his secretary or one of his many assistants scheduled that for him.  

 

The lengths they will go.  

This is where, I just stop, when they start making excuses and normalizing this crap. 

 

To them: we are wrong. 

 

Yeah ok, guess who never gets to try and lecture me or us on any morals ever again? 

 

 

i think it's weird & never did it with my kid...but it is a thing.

https://wehavekids.com/parenting/Parents-Showering-with-Their-Kids-Its-Benefits-and-When-to-Stop

probably one of those weirdo things that becomes less & less frequent with each generation...hopefully. but it definitely exists. 

 

 

 

Funny, the contents of the stolen diary are more important than the actual burglary and theft of the child's diary and the publishing it on line. That's not a big deal at all. Good thing the FBI is investigating it.

27 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Shhhh.....all they have is Trump.  

 

I'm sorry, could you speak up? I can't hear you over all the #winning.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

But it's "infrastructure week".  Don't take that away from them.  

good call...let's get back to important matters like president biden saving our country!     

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-sweeping-infrastructure-social-spending-bills-finally-get-vote-2021-11-05/

WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - After a daylong standoff, Democrats set aside divisions between progressives and centrists to pass a $1 trillion package of highway, broadband and other infrastructure improvement, sending it on to President Joe Biden to sign into law.

The 228-to-206 vote late on Friday is a substantial triumph for Biden's Democrats, who have bickered for months over the ambitious spending bills that make up the bulk of his domestic agenda.

 

Biden's administration will now oversee the biggest upgrade of America's roads, railways and other transportation infrastructure in a generation, which he has promised will create jobs and boost U.S. competitiveness.

 

So, I'm behind on this.  Someone stole a diary and then published it's contents online and we're supposed to believe the thieves that stole a diary didn't forge anything within the diary because they're very trustworthy people?  Do I have that right?

I will say Biden is a great example of good Parenting, and desreves the benefit of doubt here.

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

So, I'm behind on this.  Someone stole a diary and then published it's contents online and we're supposed to believe the thieves that stole a diary didn't forge anything within the diary because they're very trustworthy people?  Do I have that right?

Not to mention the contents were published on line 2 weeks before the election. Not a political hit job at all. (To me it smacks of a Rodger Stone, Steve Bannon operation)

1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said:

Not to mention the contents were published on line 2 weeks before the election. Not a political hit job at all. 

Yessir, that is what is wrong here, it was used politically. Not that a grown man was showering with his young daughter who admits it was inappropriate.

Yeah political hit job, Cause no one ever does that

 

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

OK. So just so everyone is clear. 

- 2 weeks before the election, right wing outlets published pages that supposedly came from Ashley Biden's diary

- The DOJ is investigating the theft of that diary, proving that an authentic diary was stolen

- The NYT has confirmed that the diary stolen was Ashley Biden's

- No one has confirmed that the pages published came from that diary and weren't simply invented/drafted after the fact. We would need to see the actual diary for that

So to be clear -- no, the NYT has NOT confirmed that the pages actually came from the stolen diary. Could they have come from it? Absolutely. Is it confirmed as a fact? No.

Now carry on with the stupidity.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

OK. So just so everyone is clear. 

- 2 weeks before the election, right wing outlets published pages that supposedly came from Ashley Biden's diary

- The DOJ is investigating the theft of that diary, proving that an authentic diary was stolen

- The NYT has confirmed that the diary stolen was Ashley Biden's

- No one has confirmed that the pages published came from that diary and weren't simply invented/drafted after the fact. We would need to see the actual diary for that

So to be clear -- no, the NYT has NOT confirmed that the pages actually came from the stolen diary. Could they have come from it? Absolutely. Is it confirmed as a fact? No.

Now carry on with the stupidity.

This is fair, and we really should see if they are confirmed or not. 

I do find it interesting how some, will make excuses for it though. I wouldn't no matter who it is/was. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

Yessir, that is what is wrong here, it was used politically. Not that a grown man was showering with his young daughter who admits it was inappropriate.

Yeah political hit job, Cause no one ever does that

 

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

Yeah, no one ever does it, like the GOP. Rat Fing. 

Watergate Burglars.

The President's Criminals

Trump Criminals

1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said:

Yeah, no one ever does it, like the GOP. Rat Fing. 

Watergate Burglars.

The President's Criminals

Trump Criminals

Proving my point. Thanks. It happens all the time. 

 

 

biden got congress to pass a historic, bipartisan infrastructure bill...so of course repugs are gonna try to flip the conversation to some unsubstantiated diary bullsheet. 

 

sorry repugs....we're too busy winning!