November 8, 20213 yr 38 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: This is an excuse. Why cant we all say that it is cringe worthy at best? I mean- cmon. It is. I dont care who it is, If Trump's daughter had said this, you guys would have had a stroke. It's not an excuse. it's consistent with the facts we know about. Trump does not strike me as a father that was very present in his kid's lives. And what's been reported about his children's upbringing is consistent with that. That's not even a judgement on him - he wouldn't be the first businessman to focus heavily on his career and have a limited role in his kid's upbringing. Within that context, yeah it'd be rather weird if one of the few interactions with his daughter was to shower with her. Biden has long been seen as a strong family man who had an active role in the upbringing of his children. He came home most weekends (via Amtrak!) to spend time with them. He has been counted as a close friend and lauded as a good man by colleagues across the political spectrum. In that context, it's not surprising to me that a dad who actually spends a lot of time nurturing his family life might have showered with his kid. If something comes out that she actually claimed abuse (which she did not, even in a diary that she did not expect anyone to read) then by all means we should investigate and dig up what we can. But the fervor with which the right has been seeking to tear him down is pretty insane, even for modern times.
November 8, 20213 yr 42 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Crazy. But I do think part of the progressive policy is to desensitize pedophelia. Not saying all liberals are ok with it, but the far left? If not it sure seems like it. yeah, how about some actual charges of pedophilia before we run him out on a rail? because not even in her diary did she allege anything of the sort. it's some serious BS for you to try and claim that this is because of some sort of "desensitization" to pedophilia. I have close friends who have suffered from actual pedophilia and deal with it to this day. the fact that I do not equate a child showering with their parent to pedophilia does not make me "soft" on it. I wouldn't care if pedophiles were subject to execution, and I'm not even particularly pro-death penalty. any grown person, man or woman, who takes advantage of a child in that way can rot in hell.
November 8, 20213 yr we must remember that The Steele Dossier was 90% made up, so good cautionary tale on believing anything that is unconfirmed, or in this case even confirmed by bad sources. . Then there was Biden's laptop- well ok, That was confirmed. But If it's confirmed those pages did come from her dairy, then what say you? Anyone who normalizes this is just a sicko in my mind I still say it's wrong, whether it Biden, Trump, or Tom Brady. Mainly because I am a decent person who is not a partisan hack.
November 8, 20213 yr Author This is not something all that uncommon for Biden's generation. So, true or not, this sounds like a big 'ol #nothingberder.
November 8, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: NYT confirms the Ashley Biden diary as real. In the diary Ashley Biden describes inappropriate showers with her dad. "probably not appropriate" was written. The "molestation has been verified" part exists only in your mind.
November 8, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: "probably not appropriate" was written. The "molestation has been verified" part exists only in your mind. and so, because it's Biden, it's ok? Lets all pretend that If this were Trump that you all would react the same way? Not in one million years. So laughable. The only reason I come to CVON, is to laugh at the hypocrites in here.
November 8, 20213 yr Haven't followed the diary story, but if it's true, it's weird to me for a father to shower naked with his daughter. Even mother and daughter or father and son is kinda weird, but depends on age. If we're talking like older than 3, I don't know, seems pretty weird either way. Kids don't need to see their parents junk.
November 8, 20213 yr Just now, Ipiggles said: and so, because it's Biden, it's ok? Lets all pretend that If this were Trump that you all would react the same way? Not in one million years. So laughable. The only reason I come to CVON, is to laugh at the hypocrites in here. If a crime occurred he should be arrested and prosecuted. No one, at all, has any evidence that a crime was committed.
November 8, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Not a big deal to me. I showered with my father when I was like 5 years old. Don't pretend that parents have never done this. Is your dad Jerry Sandusky? Asking for a friend
November 8, 20213 yr I saw my father in law's junk one time at a spa in Vegas. I thought it was a bathing suit situation until he just went full frontal before getting in the sauna.
November 8, 20213 yr 8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Johnsnow be all like Dude ef off. That's not even close to what I said. You're a disgusting individual.
November 8, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: Is your dad Jerry Sandusky? Asking for a friend No. In 1970, He taught me how to use a wash cloth and a soap bar. Once or twice is all it took and then it was goodbye bathtub hello shower on my own. Before that It was baths with soap bubbles, JJ Shampoo and my rubber ducky. LOL.
November 8, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dude ef off. That's not even close to what I said. You're a disgusting individual. he is gross!
November 8, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dude ef off. That's not even close to what I said. You're a disgusting individual. You mad bro?
November 8, 20213 yr When my son was little, I used to make him wear a waterproof burka in the tub so that no one inch of his skin was exposed when he was bathed. You know... like any normal red blooded American does. Normally I don't post family photos, especially when I see all the crap Toaster gets, but here's my kids at Chirstmas...
November 8, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: When my son was little, I used to make him wear a waterproof burka in the tub so that no one inch of his skin was exposed when he was bathed. You know... like any normal red blooded American does. Normally I don't post family photos, especially when I see all the crap Toaster gets, but here's my kids at Chirstmas... you have a beautiful family. kudos!
November 8, 20213 yr 34 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: yeah, how about some actual charges of pedophilia before we run him out on a rail? because not even in her diary did she allege anything of the sort. it's some serious BS for you to try and claim that this is because of some sort of "desensitization" to pedophilia. I have close friends who have suffered from actual pedophilia and deal with it to this day. the fact that I do not equate a child showering with their parent to pedophilia does not make me "soft" on it. I wouldn't care if pedophiles were subject to execution, and I'm not even particularly pro-death penalty. any grown person, man or woman, who takes advantage of a child in that way can rot in hell. anyone normalizing a father taking showers with his young daughter as being a "normal thing" is subject to whatever fingers get pointed their way. It is wrong. Period, say it with me... WRONG IS WRONG no matter who it is. NO BS. BS is where you normalize it.
November 8, 20213 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: Jobs report last week was pretty awesome. 531k new nonfarm payroll jobs in October. September revised up from 194k to 312k. So not only were things much better in September than initially reported (I'm sure I could dig up a few posts here bemoaning it), but October absolutely crushed it. Back to school, back to work. 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: you have a beautiful family. kudos! shameful that the middle girl is showing so much ankle.
November 8, 20213 yr 3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: anyone normalizing a father taking showers with his young daughter as being a "normal thing" is subject to whatever fingers get pointed their way. It is wrong. Period, say it with me... WRONG IS WRONG no matter who it is. NO BS. BS is where you normalize it. https://www.familyeducation.com/life/father-daughter-relationships/should-father-bathe-toddler-daughter
November 8, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: https://www.familyeducation.com/life/father-daughter-relationships/should-father-bathe-toddler-daughter Bathing a baby is WAAAAYY different than showering with your daughter who is old enough to remember it. I mean wtf
November 8, 20213 yr Author 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: shameful that the middle girl is showing so much ankle.
November 8, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: Bathing a baby is WAAAAYY different than showering with your daughter who is old enough to remember it. I mean wtf Give it up. They are just a bunch of partisan sicko hacks.
November 8, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: anyone normalizing a father taking showers with his young daughter as being a "normal thing" is subject to whatever fingers get pointed their way. It is wrong. Period, say it with me... WRONG IS WRONG no matter who it is. NO BS. BS is where you normalize it. it's also wrong to assume that a father who showered with his daughter in the 80s is a pedophile. something something "we shouldn't judge actions in the past based on norms of today" even today there is no consensus on whether it's right or wrong. just because you deem it to be wrong does not make it the final word. https://mamasuncut.com/mom-q-and-a-daughter-shower-with-father-age/ https://www.fatherly.com/parenting/how-to-shower-naked-parents-teaching-bathroom/
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