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2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

To be fair neither party is anything to write home about, but no way you typed the bolded with a straight face. I mean Biden makes G W and Romney look like "Rocket Surgeons"

I look forward to Joe having to debate someone who has debate skills and is a great orator, unlike Trump.

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1 minute ago, Toty said:

The other side of this is that for once the Republicans need to find a decent candidate of their own to keep Trump at bay.

They have to be able to find someone who's not an amoral populist like Trump, nor a total Jesus Fish like Pence. I don't know who that is though.

There's about a 95% chance that Republicans cancel their primary.  The 5% is if Trump dies.  Now that I think of it, based on his age and diet, maybe I should up that percentage, but either way, that's the only chance they have at actually getting a party-wide vote.

2 minutes ago, Toty said:

The other side of this is that for once the Republicans need to find a decent candidate of their own to keep Trump at bay.

They have to be able to find someone who's not an amoral populist like Trump, nor a total Jesus Fish like Pence. I don't know who that is though.

There are quite a few options.

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

I look forward to Joe having to debate someone who has debate skills and is a great orator, unlike Trump.

will NEVER happen.  He wont make it 4 years

1 minute ago, Toty said:

The other side of this is that for once the Republicans need to find a decent candidate of their own to keep Trump at bay.

They have to be able to find someone who's not an amoral populist like Trump, nor a total Jesus Fish like Pence. I don't know who that is though.

They've got a fairly deep bench, the problem is Trump, and his sizeable army of true believers.  The Republicans can't win without them, and he hasn't given any indication that he possesses the humility necessary to step back and back someone else.

3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

will NEVER happen.  He wont make it 4 years

While I can't say I'm as sure of that as you are...Kamala wouldn't do any better.

1 minute ago, The_Omega said:

They've got a fairly deep bench, the problem is Trump, and his sizeable army of true believers.  The Republicans can't win without them, and he hasn't given any indication that he possesses the humility necessary to step back and back someone else.

 

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1 minute ago, The_Omega said:

They've got a fairly deep bench, the problem is Trump, and his sizeable army of true believers.  The Republicans can't win without them, and he hasn't given any indication that he possesses the humility necessary to step back and back someone else.

Agreed.  There are 3-4 people I'd be interested in before Trump.  I sincerely hope he does not run again.

Just now, Outlaw said:

Agreed.  There are 3-4 people I'd be interested before Trump.

You're missing quite a few zeros there.

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

While I can't say I'm as sure of that as you are...Kamala wouldn't do any better.

As much as I'm sure some will take offense to this, she would do worse. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

You're missing quite a few zeros there.

3-4 are people I definitively would like to see run over him.  I'm sure there are more, but I'd have to really look into additional people's records and such.  As I said earlier, I sincerely hope he does not run again.

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

3-4 are people I definitively would like to see run over him.  I'm sure there are more, but I'd have to really look into additional people's records and such.  As I said earlier, I sincerely hope he does not run again.

if we are lucky a certain ex gop, now a libertarian will run. 

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

if we are lucky a certain ex gop, now a libertarian will run. 

Wouldn't have enough support to make it to the debates. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Wouldn't have enough support to make it to the debates. 

you're right and that's a damn shame. 

so the possibility of the Government actually controlling your money, watch the end....... no more private accounts -  "so the feds can take money away from peoples acounts"

 

Yeah hmm this sounds like.... ummm 

wait what is the word I am looking for?..........  

 

19 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Agreed.  There are 3-4 people I'd be interested in before Trump.  I sincerely hope he does not run again.

is ivanka one of them?  

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28 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Look at you.  From dead set against Biden in the primary, demanding there was no way you'd support him, to a hallucinogenic dream to rationalize unwavering support for him, in 18 short months.  :roll: 

 

Wasn't my first choice, but he was the only one who could beat Trump. For right now, he's all we got, so I'm here for it. And if it pisses you guys off, well, that's a bonus!

4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

so the possibility of the Government actually controlling your money, watch the end....... no more private accounts -  "so the feds can take money away from peoples acounts"

 

Yeah hmm this sounds like.... ummm 

wait what is the word I am looking for?..........  

 

 

 

fiction.

Trumpbots pretending they want anyone besides Trump to run in '24 is the content CVON provides that you just can't get anywhere else.

Please stop. Mitt Romney built Bain Capital, FFS. He is significantly more intelligent than Biden.

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Wasn't my first choice, but he was the only one who could beat Trump. For right now, he's all we got, so I'm here for it. And if it pisses you guys off, well, that's a bonus!

I'm sorry that you've been reduced to projecting your anger onto me. Your first sentence is right, though, because it's exactly what I said during the Dem primaries.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Trumpbots pretending they want anyone besides Trump to run in '24 is the content CVON provides that you just can't get anywhere else.

I don't know about all of them.  I don't get the impression that Toty's a Trumpbot.  The rest are for sure.  And Zucker? :lol:  That's just hilarious.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Trumpbots pretending they want anyone besides Trump to run in '24 is the content CVON provides that you just can't get anywhere else.

this guy has like a 90% approval rating among repugs

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27 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

As much as I'm sure some will take offense to this, she would do worse. 

It's always easy to tell the new guy. I don't remember anyone on here really liking her at all.

21 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

if we are lucky a certain ex gop, now a libertarian will run. 

Amash?  That would be amazing, but he wouldn't make it to the debates...sadly.

8 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

is ivanka one of them?  

Nope.  But she can run through my head any time she wants...

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Trumpbots pretending they want anyone besides Trump to run in '24 is the content CVON provides that you just can't get anywhere else.

Sorry, I've been pretty firm on this stance for quite a while.  I hope he does not run in 24.

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