20 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I think they are stuck on the stimulus checks again and what the cut off point is on how much someone can make to get one. I believe the Republicans want 50,000 as the cut off. 

They need to use 2020 income levels too.   I don’t see the point in giving people who were employed the whole year huge checks.

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

They need to use 2020 income levels too.   I don’t see the point in giving people who were employed the whole year huge checks.

Hey! Let me have my money! 

2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Biden says 1.9T, Republicans offer $618B. I say we meet in the middle at 1.28T. Fair?

I doubt there will be any real negotiation happening. Dems will push through what they want. It’s the perk of being the winners. Biden is basically locked in to giving $1400 checks and it would be pretty bad politically for him to reduce the limit to receive a check. In the end I bet they’ll stick to the same limits as the other bills.

5 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

They need to use 2020 income levels too.   I don’t see the point in giving people who were employed the whole year huge checks.

Agreed

7 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Hey! Let me have my money! 

My wife and I are both retired with good pension plans.  We’re not rich, but are not in distress.  I could see them eliminating us from receiving check.  We’ve had steady income through pandemic.  Been using money to help son’s family who suffered through shut downs.

8 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

My wife and I are both retired with good pension plans.  We’re not rich, but are not in distress.  I could see them eliminating us from receiving check.  We’ve had steady income through pandemic.  Been using money to help son’s family who suffered through shut downs.

I've had steady income throughout the pandemic as well. Actually one of the best years I've had financially. I really don't need the stimulus or care if I get it I was just joking about it. I'm also not going to be upset if I do get it. 

My parents are in pretty good shape as well, I do buy their groceries though to help out some 

 

6 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I've had steady income throughout the pandemic as well. Actually one of the best years I've had financially. I really don't need the stimulus or care if I get it I was just joking about it. I'm also not going to be upset if I do get it. 

My parents are in pretty good shape as well, I do buy their groceries though to help out some 

 

Same. When we got the first stimulus I made a large donation to a local food bank and pretty much wasted the rest building a BBQ shack. Gave some to my brother also as he was hurting a bit when things first shut down.

On 1/29/2021 at 6:59 PM, Dave Moss said:

He's definitely shown more energy in first couple weeks than he ever did campaigning.

37 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Same. When we got the first stimulus I made a large donation to a local food bank and pretty much wasted the rest building a BBQ shack. Gave some to my brother also as he was hurting a bit when things first shut down.

Going full time working from home allowed me to increase the side work I do. Financially I made a ton more last year than is typical. I ramped up our monthly givings and made a few large donations at Christmas for various food bank type charities at the local, national, and international levels. Frankly, looking at my tax documents, I should have given more, I don't think I realized quite how fortunate I was (was still operating with some caution due to Covid because you never know)

I didn't qualify for the first stimulus, but all stimuluses should be means tested IMHO. 

24 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Going full time working from home allowed me to increase the side work I do. Financially I made a ton more last year than is typical. I ramped up our monthly givings and made a few large donations at Christmas for various food bank type charities at the local, national, and international levels. Frankly, looking at my tax documents, I should have given more, I don't think I realized quite how fortunate I was (was still operating with some caution due to Covid because you never know)

I didn't qualify for the first stimulus, but all stimuluses should be means tested IMHO. 

I got the full first stimulus only because I hadn't done my taxes yet. Our income went up considerably in 2020. The last one I got partial.

I had an idea that everyone should get a small stipend to cover any miscellaneous covid costs. And the rest should go by how much money a person may have lost due to missing work or lack of business. Someone like me who didn't lose any money due to covid shouldn't get anything IMO

38 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

He's definitely shown more energy in first couple weeks than he ever did campaigning.

He ran against an inferior man and he knew he had it in the bag. Why waste energy?

I can see lowering the limit. Someone making $300k definitely does not need any help or incentive to spend, but 50k is too low. Even if you pulled 50k last year and might be ok, you're not necessarily feeling motivated to spend. Giving someone a check who makes 50k or a little more is still a good thing in my mind because it's likely that they'll spend that money and help the economy stay afloat and hasten the recovery. I think this isn't just about helping people put food on the table but also maintaining/increasing levels of  consumption to avoid/reduce contraction.

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I can see lowering the limit. Someone making $300k definitely does not need any help or incentive to spend, but 50k is too low. Even if you pulled 50k last year and might be ok, you're not necessarily feeling motivated to spend. Giving someone a check who makes 50k or a little more is still a good thing in my mind because it's likely that they'll spend that money and help the economy stay afloat and hasten the recovery. I think this isn't just about helping people put food on the table but also maintaining/increasing levels of  consumption to avoid/reduce contraction.

I thought it was around $100k

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I thought it was around $100k

I think that was individuals/300k for families. I'd have to check, but I saw 300k somewhere. I can see how my post would be confusing. Bah, it's early here. Need coffee.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

I think that was individuals/300k for families. I'd have to check, but I saw 300k somewhere.

ahh ok

9 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

They need to use 2020 income levels too.   I don’t see the point in giving people who were employed the whole year huge checks.

They should just send checks to everyone so its faster. Then when you file income tax, people over a certain income would have to return some or all of it. In this "gig" economy they can't go by what people were making before. 

15 minutes ago, Gannan said:

They should just send checks to everyone so its faster. Then when you file income tax, people over a certain income would have to return some or all of it.

The political fallout from that would be catastrophic.

5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

The political fallout from that would be catastrophic.

Pretty sure they've done programs like this before. Wasn't one of the first time home buyer credits like this? Essentially an interest free loan from dubya to help with your down payment?

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Pretty sure they've done programs like this before. Wasn't one of the first time home buyer credits like this? Essentially an interest free loan from dubya to help with your down payment?

I don't remember, but the climate right now is certainly much more tense and the situation is drastic. My point is that you'd inevitably have a bunch of people with unexpected tax bills (due to irresponsibility, I know) who will direct that frustration toward the administration. Quick way to lose in the midterms, imo.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I don't remember, but the climate right now is certainly much more tense and the situation is drastic. My point is that you'd inevitably have a bunch of people with unexpected tax bills (due to irresponsibility, I know) who will direct that frustration toward the administration. Quick way to lose in the midterms, imo.

I think it was repaid over time not just in one year. Politically, yeah anything less than "moar stimmy!" is gonna be viewed less favorably. We saw this from the mouth-breathing trumpbots who decried the evils of socialism for 4 years only to then cry a river of tears because their direct government payments were too small.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I think it was repaid over time not just in one year. Politically, yeah anything less than "moar stimmy!" is gonna be viewed less favorably. We saw this from the mouth-breathing trumpbots who decried the evils of socialism for 4 years only to then cry a river of tears because their direct government payments were too small.

Unfortunately, being politically successful requires managing the electorate's stupidity.

Bet we all could have guessed who the morons who voted no were.  Deplorables.

17 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Bet we all could have guessed who the morons who voted no were.  Deplorables.

I wonder if they will be honest and say they voted no because he's gay.

6 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I wonder if they will be honest and say they voted no because he's gay.

Meh I think they're just voting no to "own the libs".  It's the usual cast of clowns still throwing a hissy fit over election fraud.

8 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I wonder if they will be honest and say they voted no because he's gay.

I actually think it’s more likely that they voted no because it was a Biden appointee.They are likely going to vote no on every cabinet member and every proposed bill. They must oppose everything to please the base.