June 14, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Gannan said: Yes because Im not a moron. Inflation and high gas prices are happening all over the world. Righties love to point at Hungary as this shining example of how conservative should run a country. Guess what? They have high gas prices and inflation too. Trump spent his entire time in office watching tv, playing golf, and tweeting. He would have done zero about inflation and high gas prices. These are all good points. Biden's been so disastrous that the issues have spread all over the world.
June 14, 20223 yr Specifically what are the Dems and Biden doing about inflation? Printing more money?
June 14, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Specifically what are the Dems and Biden doing about inflation? Printing more money? Joe went on Kimmel last week to tell him that he's done a lot of good things but the media is focusing too much on the bad stuff. What more did you expect?
June 14, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Specifically what are the Dems and Biden doing about inflation? Printing more money? Releasing 1 million barrels of oil per day from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. I also think rolling back Trump's dopey tariffs would be effective. What else would you suggest?
June 14, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: Releasing 1 million barrels of oil per day from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. I also think rolling back Trump's dopey tariffs would be effective. What else would you suggest? Procus suggests circumventing our election process, hanging Mike Pence and installing Trump as king for life. He is even willing to give thousands of his own dollars to get it done.
June 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I'm all for increasing domestic production. I've said before that Ukraine changed the game dramatically and that we need to be strongly investing in true energy independence. In the grand scheme of things, I also recognize that alternative energy just isn't there yet. In the long-run, we're going to need to increase oil production before we decrease it. we could have been focusing on energy independence all along. Some of us did not need Russia/Ukraine to point it out to us.
June 14, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: we could have been focusing on energy independence all along. Some of us did not need Russia/Ukraine to point it out to us. Trump promised energy independence by the end of his first term. He failed.
June 14, 20223 yr Just now, Gannan said: Trump promised energy independence by the end of his first term. He failed. Put that on a red hat and make it his new campaign slogan.
June 14, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Gannan said: Releasing 1 million barrels of oil per day from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. I also think rolling back Trump's dopey tariffs would be effective. What else would you suggest? For starters? Reinstating Trumps deregs in the Oil/gas industry that Biden reversed in his first week, reinstating new drilling leases on Government land, which he also put a stop to in his first week in office, maybe allow the expansion of the XL pipeline- (all these things would take time make a difference, but they would make some difference)and I would suggest NOT printing more money, lets not introduce large spending bills. Thats off the top of my head. (the biggest in bold print) Admittedly, this would not be my area of expertise, however below is a small list of other things the government could do to help fight inflation: Eliminate some tarrifs: Manufactured goods- & steel and aluminum Repeal the Jones Act The Food industry - Eliminate the fertilizer tax, eliminate or reduce policies forcing farmers to engage in "climate smart agriculture" - Repeal the US Federal Sugar Program Limit taxes and reduce regulations on businesses Repeal the Davis- Bacon act Much can be done in the energy sector: repeal NEPA, eliminate energy subsidies and state stax codes that are meant to force energy production to renewable sources, Again -Repeal the Jones act. Expand competitive energy markets in states and regions.
June 14, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Gannan said: Trump promised energy independence by the end of his first term. He failed. So we should not try to bve as energy independent as possible then? I fail to see what relevance your statement has to the topic that it would be better for all of the US, if we were as energy indpenent as humanly possible?
June 14, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So we should not try to bve as energy independent as possible then? I fail to see what relevance your statement has to the topic that it would be better for all of the US, if we were as energy indpenent as humanly possible? When people talk about how horrible Biden is, it needs to be stressed that we were given a binary choice between Trump who was a disaster and Biden. We will likely be faced with the exact same choice again. Yes, we should be as energy independent as possible. Another 4 years of Trump isn't going to get us there.
June 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: When people talk about how horrible Biden is, it needs to be stressed that we were given a binary choice between Trump who was a disaster and Biden. We will likely be faced with the exact same choice again. Yes, we should be as energy independent as possible. Another 4 years of Trump isn't going to get us there. I agree- a binary choice of bad and worse. Where we dont agree, Biden has been worse in his policies, Afghanistan Pullout, Minsitry of Truth, weaponizing OSHA for Vaccine Mandates etc. I cant point to one thing he has done right. With Trump, there were peace deals, policies fostering more energy independence, rebuilding of the military etc.. Yeah Trump was an idiot, and an embarrassment, But Biden and the Dem policies are so much worse for all of us, US citizens. Was it worth all of this to get rid of Trump? To those who hated him, or believed in Russian Collusion because of bias confirmation? I guess it was so far. Not to me. The crazy thing is (and I think you will agree with this) we are so limited in our choices , to think that Biden and Trump was the best we could muster? Yeah we should deserve better, will we get it? In my lifetime (mid 50's) I have not witnessed a sitting President that I thought was fitting, up to the level that a President of the free world should be. Probably the best for me- , Reagan, Bush Sr, Obama, and they all still had major flaws and faults. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations? Maybe there was never the perfect President? Regardless, you wont agree, we were better off as a whole with the last President.
June 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: I agree- a binary choice of bad and worse. Where we dont agree, Biden has been worse in his policies, Afghanistan Pullout, Minsitry of Truth, weaponizing OSHA for Vaccine Mandates etc. I cant point to one thing he has done right. With Trump, there were peace deals, policies fostering more energy independence, rebuilding of the military etc.. Yeah Trump was an idiot, and an embarrassment, But Biden and the Dem policies are so much worse for all of us, US citizens. Was it worth all of this to get rid of Trump? To those who hated him, or believed in Russian Collusion because of bias confirmation? I guess it was so far. Not to me. The crazy thing is (and I think you will agree with this) we are so limited in our choices , to think that Biden and Trump was the best we could muster? Yeah we should deserve better, will we get it? In my lifetime (mid 50's) I have not witnessed a sitting President that I thought was fitting, up to the level that a President of the free world should be. Probably the best for me- , Reagan, Bush Sr, Obama, and they all still had major flaws and faults. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations? Maybe there was never the perfect President? Regardless, you wont agree, we were better off as a whole with the last President. Yes, its been worth it. Trump monetized the office of the presidency, normalized corruption and planned on staying in power after his term expired. He's an existential threat to the republic. Biden has been tougher on Russia, strengthening NATO, got infrastructure done (Trump promised to do this and failed) and expanded the child tax credit which is essentially a huge tax cut for the middle class. As I've pointed out several times, Trump raised my taxes, Biden lowered them. We are far better off. You right wing nut jobs ascribe everything bad that happens to Biden, just like you did with Obama, but reality tells a far different story.
June 14, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Gannan said: Yes, its been worth it. Trump monetized the office of the presidency, normalized corruption and planned on staying in power after his term expired. He's an existential threat to the republic. Biden has been tougher on Russia, strengthening NATO, got infrastructure done (Trump promised to do this and failed) and expanded the child tax credit which is essentially a huge tax cut for the middle class. As I've pointed out several times, Trump raised my taxes, Biden lowered them. We are far better off. You right wing nut jobs ascribe everything bad that happens to Biden, just like you did with Obama, but reality tells a far different story. First, the bolded completely ignores the facts that Hillary and her campaign colluded with members of the FBI and the DOJ to start the Russian Collusion hoax, to influence the election, and spy on his campaign and Presidency. Talk about Corruption??? How about Obama's weaponizing the IRS to go after Repubs? I guess those things didn't happen, or you think they were totally OK, because it was for YOUR SIDE? Your reality is twisted. I point out the exact bad things happened under Biden so far- and you dismiss them? And we are the ones who are delusional? You can name call me all you want, that wont make Biden all of the sudden be the savior you were promised he would be. Hell he cant even finish a thought if the teleprompter wasn't in front of him. Obama had the opportunity to be the great uniter, but during his second term, he became the great divider. His second term was what started to red pill me, add in Hilary's campaign and the last 6 years of the normal leftist MO of labeling anyone you disagree with as (insert vile name like deplorables, NSDAP's, Biggots, Racists etc.), along with the lefts progressive wing go completely off the rails, has all helped solidify that my red puilling would stay in place. I cant see a way I will ever vote DEM again in my lifetime.
June 14, 20223 yr You realize as of March (last month we have data for last I checked) we were a net exporter of about 1 million barrels of oil per day? OPEC is still producing at pandemic levels.
June 14, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Obama had the opportunity to be the great uniter, but during his second term, he became the great divider. His second term was what started to red pill me, add in Hilary's campaign and the last 6 years of the normal leftist MO of labeling anyone you disagree with as (insert vile name like deplorables, NSDAP's, Biggots, Racists etc.), along with the lefts progressive wing go completely off the rails, has all helped solidify that my red puilling would stay in place. Your whole post is insanely stupid, but I just want to focus on the bold. I love it how you guys spend all day trashing anyone who disagrees with you, calling them every name imaginable, all the while crying about people calling you mean names. You're the biggest poosays in the history of American politics
June 14, 20223 yr 35 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: I agree- a binary choice of bad and worse. Where we dont agree, Biden has been worse in his policies, Afghanistan Pullout, Minsitry of Truth, weaponizing OSHA for Vaccine Mandates etc. I cant point to one thing he has done right. With Trump, there were peace deals, policies fostering more energy independence, rebuilding of the military etc.. Yeah Trump was an idiot, and an embarrassment, But Biden and the Dem policies are so much worse for all of us, US citizens. Was it worth all of this to get rid of Trump? To those who hated him, or believed in Russian Collusion because of bias confirmation? I guess it was so far. Not to me. The crazy thing is (and I think you will agree with this) we are so limited in our choices , to think that Biden and Trump was the best we could muster? Yeah we should deserve better, will we get it? In my lifetime (mid 50's) I have not witnessed a sitting President that I thought was fitting, up to the level that a President of the free world should be. Probably the best for me- , Reagan, Bush Sr, Obama, and they all still had major flaws and faults. Perhaps I have unrealistic expectations? Maybe there was never the perfect President? Regardless, you wont agree, we were better off as a whole with the last President. We won't agree, but no we were not.
June 14, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Your whole post is insanely stupid, but I just want to focus on the bold. I love it how you guys spend all day trashing anyone who disagrees with you, calling them every name imaginable, all the while crying about people calling you mean names. You're the biggest poosays in the history of American politics F their feelings bruh.
June 14, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Your whole post is insanely stupid, but I just want to focus on the bold. I love it how you guys spend all day trashing anyone who disagrees with you, calling them every name imaginable, all the while crying about people calling you mean names. You're the biggest poosays in the history of American politics "Let's go Brandon!"
June 14, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Wait, now it's ok for the government to subsidize risky plays in the private sector? What part about the problem of market interference don’t you understand? Look, we all know you, nor any single other person who voted for Biden, has a problem with market interference. So let’s just drop the act, shall we? The bottom line is that POTUS and Congress CAN do some things. They are not helpless little children much as you want to pretend everything is out of their control. And if you’re going to be interfering in private markets, as every single Democratic voter agrees is acceptable, then doing so in something as crucial to national security as oil production is the most forgivable. But Biden and the democrats won’t. And why? Because despite the direct national security threat, and despite the massive economic implications, their ideology won’t allow for it. Oil is their mortal enemy, so the left would rather see the economy crash and burn than do something that might actually help ordinary people. It’s really that simple.
June 14, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: What part about the problem of market interference don’t you understand? Look, we all know you, nor any single other person who voted for Biden, has a problem with market interference. So let’s just drop the act, shall we? The bottom line is that POTUS and Congress CAN do some things. They are not helpless little children much as you want to pretend everything is out of their control. And if you’re going to be interfering in private markets, as every single Democratic voter agrees is acceptable, then doing so in something as crucial to national security as oil production is the most forgivable. But Biden and the democrats won’t. And why? Because despite the direct national security threat, and despite the massive economic implications, their ideology won’t allow for it. Oil is their mortal enemy, so the left would rather see the economy crash and burn than do something that might actually help ordinary people. It’s really that simple.
June 14, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, TEW said: What part about the problem of market interference don’t you understand? Look, we all know you, nor any single other person who voted for Biden, has a problem with market interference. So let’s just drop the act, shall we? The bottom line is that POTUS and Congress CAN do some things. They are not helpless little children much as you want to pretend everything is out of their control. And if you’re going to be interfering in private markets, as every single Democratic voter agrees is acceptable, then doing so in something as crucial to national security as oil production is the most forgivable. But Biden and the democrats won’t. And why? Because despite the direct national security threat, and despite the massive economic implications, their ideology won’t allow for it. Oil is their mortal enemy, so the left would rather see the economy crash and burn than do something that might actually help ordinary people. It’s really that simple. I just find it funny that you are against government meddling in the economy until you're not. It's ok, we're all hypocrites to a degree. Just accept it. I think you'd be surprised at my feelings on government and market interference, but whatever. Acting like either party is willing to tell their base that "the market is what it is" is laughable. Both meddle deeply, it's just a matter of to which group their meddling is advantageous. On oil, you know as well as I do that oil companies were deeply spooked by the pandemic. Their approach during the recovery has been VERY conservative. OPEC is only now starting to open up the spigot a bit, and I seem to recall you and I going round and round about whether the US is a marginal producer of oil .. yet our production has recovered, at least up there the point that oil companies are comfortable with. I don't blame the oil companies per se. They have a fiduciary responsibility. I'm not really blaming anyone - the pandemic has shocked the hell out of our economy, with the market out of whack with demand, supply far outpacing demand one month then demand outstripping supply the next. Sometimes, it's just the market. Asking the government to ease the pain is just borrowing on margin again. Frankly given government and fed policies I think the 2% inflation rates we've seen for the last 20 years are a mirage anchored more in inertia than a rational reaction to policy. The silver lining is this will cripple arguments for MMT, though I don't see progressives putting a bullet in it because pipe dreams are easier when money is cheap.
June 14, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I just find it funny that you are against government meddling in the economy until you're not. It's ok, we're all hypocrites to a degree. Just accept it. I think you'd be surprised at my feelings on government and market interference, but whatever. Acting like either party is willing to tell their base that "the market is what it is" is laughable. Both meddle deeply, it's just a matter of to which group their meddling is advantageous. On oil, you know as well as I do that oil companies were deeply spooked by the pandemic. Their approach during the recovery has been VERY conservative. OPEC is only now starting to open up the spigot a bit, and I seem to recall you and I going round and round about whether the US is a marginal producer of oil .. yet our production has recovered, at least up there the point that oil companies are comfortable with. I don't blame the oil companies per se. They have a fiduciary responsibility. I'm not really blaming anyone - the pandemic has shocked the hell out of our economy, with the market out of whack with demand, supply far outpacing demand one month then demand outstripping supply the next. Sometimes, it's just the market. Asking the government to ease the pain is just borrowing on margin again. Frankly given government and fed policies I think the 2% inflation rates we've seen for the last 20 years are a mirage anchored more in inertia than a rational reaction to policy. The silver lining is this will cripple arguments for MMT, though I don't see progressives putting a bullet in it because pipe dreams are easier when money is cheap. This has nothing to do with what I want or my beliefs. It’s a response to the claim that Biden and democrats in congress can’t do anything. They can. They just won’t.
June 14, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, TEW said: What part about the problem of market interference don’t you understand? Look, we all know you, nor any single other person who voted for Biden, has a problem with market interference. So let’s just drop the act, shall we? The bottom line is that POTUS and Congress CAN do some things. They are not helpless little children much as you want to pretend everything is out of their control. And if you’re going to be interfering in private markets, as every single Democratic voter agrees is acceptable, then doing so in something as crucial to national security as oil production is the most forgivable. But Biden and the democrats won’t. And why? Because despite the direct national security threat, and despite the massive economic implications, their ideology won’t allow for it. Oil is their mortal enemy, so the left would rather see the economy crash and burn than do something that might actually help ordinary people. It’s really that simple. Dude, could you STFU? Debating raising family office money to go into lending to companies scorned by ESG. Don't need government competition.
June 14, 20223 yr Just now, vikas83 said: Dude, could you STFU? Debating raising family office money to go into lending to companies scorned by ESG. Don't need government competition. You don’t need to worry dude. Literally, they would sooner chop off their own sons deeks than give any money to the oil industry.
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