July 12, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: Buttigieg still has the same problem he did in 2020. He's not well liked in the black community. As unpopular as Biden is, he still has over 60% approval in the black community. It's why he won the primary and why he won the presidency. Yep. A surefire way to lose is nominate a woman or a gay man. I like Pete but no thanks.
July 12, 20223 yr 30 minutes ago, Bill said: The difference between Reagan and DeSantis is that Reagan didn't actually act on the pandering and he also was a natural politician. DeSantis seemed like he was a bit too much MAGA when he was campaigning, but when he actually came into office his policies were actually pretty good. The problem is during COVID, when he was pro opening things back up, he got too sucked into the MAGA spotlight and started doing dumb stuff. Another issue is he completely botched the response to the unemployment in the state caused by COVID, and was blaming Florida's COVID counts on undocumented workers, when in actuality it wasn't. I get that I will never live to see anyone with the moral caliber of President Bartlett in major politics, but things are so far off the deep end anymore. It's gotten worse than I could have ever thought possible. Best President of my lifetime...and best show on TV at the time.
July 12, 20223 yr Well, maybe he is moderating a touch given his Presidential ambitions? Quote Mr. DeSantis has described fetuses in the womb as "unborn babies.” Yet he has largely avoided specifying what other restrictions he might endorse. When a state representative filed legislation last year seeking a six-week ban, the governor would not support or oppose it. "I have a 100 percent pro-life record,” he said instead. Now, campaigning for a second term as governor, Mr. DeSantis is coming under intense pressure from powerful parts of the G.O.P. base to further curb abortions in Florida — the most populous state with a Republican governor where abortions are still fairly widely available. Yet doing so could undermine Mr. DeSantis’s efforts to recruit residents and businesses to his state and complicate his re-election campaign, not to mention his national ambitions, because polls show that a majority of Floridians, and of Americans, want to keep most abortions legal. In a New York Times/Siena College poll this week, U.S. voters, by a 2-to-1 margin, or 61 percent to 29 percent, said they opposed the Supreme Court’s decision.
July 12, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Youre going to get Newsom and DeSantis. DeSantis is the no brainier in 2028 maybe, but not in two years
July 12, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: in 2028 maybe, but not in two years To which? Neither Biden nor Trump will run, IMO. Both Newsom and DeSantis are showing clear signs that theyre running in 2024
July 12, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: To which? Neither Biden nor Trump will run, IMO. Both Newsom and DeSantis are showing clear signs that theyre running in 2024 You're trying to speak this into existence but no. You'll get Trump and you'll be thrilled about it.
July 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: To which? Neither Biden nor Trump will run, IMO. Both Newsom and DeSantis are showing clear signs that theyre running in 2024 I'll take that bet.
July 12, 20223 yr Just now, vikas83 said: I'll take that bet. you in the market for some of them West Virginia polos? 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Neither Biden nor Trump will run, IMO.
July 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: To which? Neither Biden nor Trump will run, IMO. Both Newsom and DeSantis are showing clear signs that theyre running in 2024 Sure thing, Michael.
July 12, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: You're trying to speak this into existence but no. You'll get Trump and you'll be thrilled about it. Well its pretty clear who Im picking between Trump and Biden, but both will have too much baggage. It would set either party back decades. Not sure why that was so funny but OK
July 12, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Well its pretty clear who Im picking between Trump and Biden, but both will have too much baggage. It would set either party back decades. Not sure why that was so funny but OK Mike over here thinks Trumps behavior to date is perfectly fine, but if he decides to run again 2 years from now, then it would suddenly set the party back decades. Then in the very next sentence he says he's not sure what's so funny
July 12, 20223 yr 31 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Well its pretty clear who Im picking between Trump and Biden, but both will have too much baggage. It would set either party back decades. Not sure why that was so funny but OK Yeah, the damage is long since done on the right. You guys were set back years ago (or forward, depending on whether or not your aim is a 3rd world dystopian hell hole).
July 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Youre going to get Newsom and DeSantis. DeSantis is the no brainier Trump is leading DeSantis by over 20 points in every poll https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/ It's going to be Trump. It was always going to be Trump.
July 12, 20223 yr By the way... It's also going to be Biden https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/2024/
July 12, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Gannan said: By the way... It's also going to be Biden https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/2024/ The thing is, I think there's probably a world where Biden decides not to run. But that would only happen if Biden knew Trump wasn't running, and since Trump is 100% running, Biden is too.
July 12, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Yeah, the damage is long since done on the right. You guys were set back years ago (or forward, depending on whether or not your aim is a 3rd world dystopian hell hole). Well, with that approach one could argue the right is already Fked so another Trump term would only.. I dunno destroy the fugging country? /s
July 12, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Gannan said: By the way... It's also going to be Biden https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/2024/ I don't understand the Michelle Obama thing. Are people assuming Barack would basically just get another 4-8 years? I like Michelle fine, she seems a lovely woman. But nothing in her professional life suggests she'd be even a mediocre president.
July 12, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't understand the Michelle Obama thing. Are people assuming Barack would basically just get another 4-8 years? I like Michelle fine, she seems a lovely woman. But nothing in her professional life suggests she'd be even a mediocre president. Once Trump won the primary, it opened the door to there being no qualifications what so ever to be president. The shift manager of a Burger King is more qualified than Trump.
July 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Well its pretty clear who Im picking between Trump and Biden, but both will have too much baggage. It would set either party back decades. Not sure why that was so funny but OK A lot of you nuts would pick Trump over your wife and kids.
July 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Mike over here thinks Trumps behavior to date is perfectly fine, but if he decides to run again 2 years from now, then it would suddenly set the party back decades. Then in the very next sentence he says he's not sure what's so funny Youre an idiot It would set GOP back because the party would not be able to separate itself from Trump, win or lose. It would set the Dems back because Biden is a miserable failure already Side note: most voters couldnt give 2 ishs about the January 6th committee. Like 0.000004% of the population is even following the committee. Its not the political hammer you think it is, but you are delusional about that and covid as well so it tracks.
July 12, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Youre an idiot It would set GOP back because the party would not be able to separate itself from Trump, win or lose. It would set the Dems back because Biden is a miserable failure already Side note: most voters couldnt give 2 ishs about the January 6th committee. Like 0.000004% of the population is even following the committee. Its not the political hammer you think it is, but you are delusional about that and covid as well so it tracks. Bwhahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah that's a wild hypothetical scenario you got there, Mike. Let's hope it never comes to fruition.
July 12, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Boogyman said: A lot of you nuts would pick Trump over your wife and kids. Considering Trump is clearly the better POTUS, youd have to be an imbecile to vote for Biden over Trump That is just you all voting emotions over cold, hard reality. Hell, you guys should be rooting for Trump, and I suspect that's why most of you are so fixated on him running again. He gives you an outlet for your mental illnesses. Hes the bad man you can blame for all your problems. Having a clearly ish POTUS in office that you voted for and have to defend, while the nation crumbles around you cant be good for your mental health.
July 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Bwhahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah that's a wild hypothetical scenario you got there, Mike. Let's hope it never comes to fruition. Yet youre somehow super passionate about DeSantis, arent you? Hm, I wonder why. You dont even believe what youre typing. Maybe like 8 more emojis will help you convince yourself
July 12, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, Gannan said: Trump is leading DeSantis by over 20 points in every poll https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/ It's going to be Trump. It was always going to be Trump. Ok sure, what year is it?
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