September 2, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: It is a false narrative that the majority of Trump voters support Jan 6th. WHat can I say, if you believe otherwise, than you are not well informed. The majority of those who continue to support Trump (which may not be a majority of republicans) at minimum are apologists for Jan 6 if not outright supporters. What's ironic here is that you continuously peddle false narratives about what "the left" or "democrats" at large support based on the most extreme radicals of the left. What's absolutely true is that a large plurality of Republicans continue to support Trump, and at least 1/3 view Jan 6 favorably according to recent polling. You're not well informed. You regularly peddle nonsense and are proven incorrect, yet you return with the same narratives. You have your beliefs and mine coverage for anything that supports your views. You pick and choose the "facts" that make you feel good.
September 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Ok, I can show you a video clip of him at the rally before on that day, stating something to the effect of peacefully marching to the capitol. You show me where he called for violence? It was dumb for sure, but he did not incite the violence. Thats just the facts. Got it. So the only acceptable evidence, in your mind, is Trump sending out an "I choose violence" meme. But the general concept of getting your base angry and fueled on conspiracy theories and setting them upon DC on the day of election certification, and telling them to fight like hell, is just kinda whatever.
September 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: How was he going to remain President without violence? Are you that naive? So you rubes really believe that Trump could topple the US government/ remain president with a few thousand unarmed idiots? Like QAnon Shaman, by his existence inside the Capitol bldg could declare Trump the President? 🤡 Seems legit You guys really dont understand how the Government works. 11 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: The whole point of marching to the Capitol on that day was to intimidate Congress. It wasn’t a protest. Ahh so Protests are all just intimidation tools? Should they all be outlawed then?
September 2, 20223 yr Just now, Ipiggles said: So you rubes really believe that Trump could topple the US government/ remain president with a few thousand unarmed idiots? doesn't matter..what matters is that the orange moron believed it.
September 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Lloyd said: Got it. So the only acceptable evidence, in your mind, is Trump sending out an "I choose violence" meme. But the general concept of getting your base angry and fueled on conspiracy theories and setting them upon DC on the day of election certification, and telling them to fight like hell, is just kinda whatever. So are you consistent with your beliefs no matter the circumstance or side? What about when the leftist politicians get on camera and say things like, "Fight like hell, downt back down, you get in their face" etc... Thats ok, or is that also inciting violence?
September 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So you rubes really believe that Trump could topple the US government/ remain president with a few thousand unarmed idiots? Like QAnon Shaman, by his existence inside the Capitol bldg could declare Trump the President? 🤡 Seems legit You guys really dont understand how the Government works. Ahh so Protests are all just intimidation tools? Should they all be outlawed then? It’s not a protest when you have people getting 10-year prison sentences for maiming police officers.
September 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: doesn't matter..what matters is that the orange moron believed it. if he believed it, like you rubes, yes, then all of you are idiots. Just now, Dave Moss said: It’s not a protest when you have people getting 10-year prison sentences for maiming police officers. So violence is where we draw the line, and I agree, were you consistent with the BLM riots?
September 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: if he believed it, like you rubes, yes, then all of you are idiots. So violence is where we draw the line, and I agree, were you consistent with the BLM riots? 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I asked you a question, were you/are you consistent in Violence is where we draw the line for protests and riots? Are you consistent or is the subject matter of the Protest/riot make a difference in your eyes?
September 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Ipiggles said: I asked you a question, were you/are you consistent in Violence is where we draw the line for protests and riots? Are you consistent or is the subject matter of the Protest/riot make a difference in your eyes? I don’t like cops, but I don’t go around assaulting them. See the difference between me and the guy above?
September 2, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So you rubes really believe that Trump could topple the US government/ remain president with a few thousand unarmed idiots? Not really the point. The point is he tried.
September 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Not really the point. The point is he tried. one doesn't just declare themselves President and make it so, standing in the Capitol or not. A person who was President, knows how Government works. Even ones as stupid as Trump and Or Biden. God you rubes are something else
September 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: one doesn't just declare themselves President and make it so, standing in the Capitol or not. A person who was President, knows how Government works. Even ones as stupid as Trump and Or Biden. God you rubes are something else BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
September 2, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So are you consistent with your beliefs no matter the circumstance or side? What about when the leftist politicians get on camera and say things like, "Fight like hell, downt back down, you get in their face" etc... Thats ok, or is that also inciting violence? Politicians have been saying things like that through our lives. It's just that when it comes with an element of "election don't matter unless I win, and also show up at DC on Jan 6 to fight against the certification of a democratic election" it kinda sounds less like political speak, and more like a swing at authoritarianism. "Fight like hell for (or against) abortion/taxes/gun control" we can live with. "Fight like hell to stop an election because Italian satellites and Chinese bamboo paper are stealing our country" is a separate, and much dumber thing. I mean, the thing you continue to sidestep is, that whole gathering was inspired by conspiracies from a man who had been shouting "rigged elections" going back to 2015. And again, you play it off like "Gosh, Trump got a little silly there, but I don't see how he sparked it." It was a conspiracy convention and temper tantrum from day 1.
September 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Lloyd said: Politicians have been saying things like that through our lives. It's just that when it comes with an element of "election don't matter unless I win, and also show up at DC on Jan 6 to fight against the certification of a democratic election" it kinda sounds less like political speak, and more like a swing at authoritarianism. "Fight like hell for (or against) abortion/taxes/gun control" we can live with. "Fight like hell to stop an election because Italian satellites and Chinese bamboo paper are stealing our country" is a separate, and much dumber thing. I mean, the thing you continue to sidestep is, that whole gathering was inspired by conspiracies from a man who had been shouting "rigged elections" going back to 2015. And again, you play it off like "Gosh, Trump got a little silly there, but I don't see how he sparked it." It was a conspiracy convention and temper tantrum from day 1. So no, you are not consistent. In your eyes, when your party does it, it's excusable. After that I am done reading.
September 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: So no, you are not consistent. In your eyes, when your party does it, it's excusable. After that I am done reading. How was that your takeaway? The words literally RIGHT BEFORE what you highlighted was "Fight like hell for or against abortion, taxes, and guns." It's literally right there. Unedited. You say you're done reading? You never started, bro. And again, you sidestepped that Jan 6 was completely conspiracy-fueled. It wasn't a protest for anything other than putting Trump back in power.
September 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Lloyd said: How was that your takeaway? The words literally RIGHT BEFORE what you highlighted was "Fight like hell for or against abortion, taxes, and guns." It's literally right there. Unedited. You say you're done reading? You never started, bro. And again, you sidestepped that Jan 6 was completely conspiracy-fueled. It wasn't a protest for anything other than putting Trump back in power. LOL you are clearly saying it's okay, when it's about YOUR party/issues, but not okay when it's against your party or issues. when you fail to see your own hypocrisy. I am out!
September 2, 20223 yr Just now, Ipiggles said: LOL you are clearly saying it's okay, when it's about YOUR party/issues, but not okay when it's against your party or issues. when you fail to see your own hypocrisy. I am out! "For or against!" What the hell, man. Read words. If you're fighting like hell for abortion, I guess that's my party. If you're fighting like hell against it, that's yours. Christ. The point is, we've used that phrase in politics. We just never said "Fight like hell because Italian satellites and George Soros are stealing your votes...so come to the Capitol to stop the vote certification." My god, this is exhausting. Again, January 6 stood no purpose other than keeping Trump in power. It wasn't a protest for 2nd amendment or education or coal mining. It was just, somehow despite OTHER republicans winning elections, everything got "rigged" when he didn't win.
September 2, 20223 yr On 9/2/2022 at 2:26 PM, Lloyd said: "For or against!" What the hell, man. Read words. If you're fighting like hell for abortion, I guess that's my party. If you're fighting like hell against it, that's yours. Christ. The point is, we've used that phrase in politics. We just never said "Fight like hell because Italian satellites and George Soros are stealing your votes...so come to the Capitol to stop the vote certification." My god, this is exhausting. Again, January 6 stood no purpose other than keeping Trump in power. It wasn't a protest for 2nd amendment or education or coal mining. It was just, somehow despite OTHER republicans winning elections, everything got "rigged" when he didn't win. You keep circling.... 1) Trump no more incited Violence than any other Politician has over the years. He clearly stated at the rally, peacefully march to the Capitol. He didn't call for violence. 2) It was an impossibility that an unnarmed crowd of a few thousands could break into the Capitol and declare him President, and that would make it so. 3) I am consistent in that I draw the line with Protests and Riots at violence, and no matter which side, violent offenders should be prosecuted 4) The Majority of Trump Voters (71,000,000) did not support the Violence on Jan 6th. We can agree to disagree.
September 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Ipiggles said: You keep circling.... 1) Trump no more incited Violence than any other Politician has over the years. He clearly stated at the rally, peacefully march to the Capitol. He didn't call for violence. 2) It was an impossibility that an unnarmed crowd of a few thousands could break into the Capitol and declare him President, and that would make it so. 3) I am consistent in that I draw the line with Protests and Riots at violence, and no matter which side, violent offenders should be prosecuted 4) The Majority of Trump Voters (71,000,000) did not support the Violence on Jan 6th. We can agtree to disagree. "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"
September 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, downundermike said: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," And then, it's basically (I'm paraphrasing) "Show up at the Capitol and stop the certification of a democratic election to keep me in power" despite the remaining serious members of his administration telling him it's BS. The amount of spin required to clean up this attempted coup is absurd.
September 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: You keep circling.... 1) Trump no more incited Violence than any other Politician has over the years. He clearly stated at the rally, peacefully march to the Capitol. He didn't call for violence. 2) It was an impossibility that an unnarmed crowd of a few thousands could break into the Capitol and declare him President, and that would make it so. 3) I am consistent in that I draw the line with Protests and Riots at violence, and no matter which side, violent offenders should be prosecuted 4) The Majority of Trump Voters (71,000,000) did not support the Violence on Jan 6th. We can agtree to disagree. he riled up his supporters & sent them to the capital to stop the certification of the votes.
September 2, 20223 yr He riled them up for a straight two months. It’s willful denial at this point to think otherwise
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