October 14, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Gannan said: I feel like the shutdowns would not have been necessary to the extent they were implemented had we had a president who tried to unify the country into fighting the virus. In other words, if people were willing to take some steps to stop the spread (masking, social distancing) shutdowns would not have been necessary. Instead you had half the country engaging in purposefully risky behavior because the president told them it was a hoax. My Trumpbot family members were determined to go to more crowded events unmasked to "stick it to the libs". Oh so youre just living in your own imagination, got it Yes his unity would have solved the problem, like Biden did with his unifying messages, right? Come back to reality
October 14, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: My pallet comment was about Obama. Do you know what year it is, currently? Year one trillion?
October 14, 20223 yr 51 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Was the dumpster on fire because of trump or the pandemic? Doesn't really matter, but mostly the pandemic. The damage that Trump did economically is more of the long-tail kind, and that's hardly unique to him - passing a generous tax cut when the economy was already hot makes zero sense and made the spending we needed during the pandemic that much more painful. But the bottom line is that Trump was given a healthy economy. Biden ... was not. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that basic fact and tries to compare apples-to-apples the economy under one president with he other is being intellectually dishonest.
October 14, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Trumps economy was at record levels and then the govt destroyed our economy for covid. Blaming this inflation on Trump is hilarious I didn't blame the inflation on Trump. The causes of the inflation are manifold, and most trace directly back to the pandemic as well. Yet you have no issue finding fault in Biden for inflation.
October 14, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: I didn't blame the inflation on Trump. The causes of the inflation are manifold, and most trace directly back to the pandemic as well. Yet you have no issue finding fault in Biden for inflation. Oh so youre going to play semantic word salad to avoid acknowledging what every rational person knows already. Got it We'll see who voters blame for it. Im sure theyll give Biden a ton of credit for single-handedly saving the economy
October 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Doesn't really matter, but mostly the pandemic. The damage that Trump did economically is more of the long-tail kind, and that's hardly unique to him - passing a generous tax cut when the economy was already hot makes zero sense and made the spending we needed during the pandemic that much more painful. But the bottom line is that Trump was given a healthy economy. Biden ... was not. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that basic fact and tries to compare apples-to-apples the economy under one president with he other is being intellectually dishonest. Yeah and theres another side to that coin, isnt there? What did each POTUS do with the economy they inherited?? Trump increased the trajectory and built on the progress. Low unemployment and inflaton.... and Biden who literally had the easiest job ever, decided to pursue a massive spending bill and literally did nothing about COVID but wait around and then declare victory prematurely
October 14, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah and theres another side to that coin, isnt there? What did each POTUS do with the economy they inherited?? Trump increased the trajectory and built on the progress. Low unemployment and inflaton.... and Biden who literally had the easiest job ever, decided to pursue a massive spending bill and literally did nothing about COVID but wait around and then declare victory prematurely Ok you're just re-tar-did with that take.
October 14, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Doesn't really matter, but mostly the pandemic. The damage that Trump did economically is more of the long-tail kind, and that's hardly unique to him - passing a generous tax cut when the economy was already hot makes zero sense and made the spending we needed during the pandemic that much more painful. But the bottom line is that Trump was given a healthy economy. Biden ... was not. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that basic fact and tries to compare apples-to-apples the economy under one president with he other is being intellectually dishonest. This is the intellectually dishonest comment in that it totally disregards the pandemic and puts it all on trump.
October 14, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah and theres another side to that coin, isnt there? What did each POTUS do with the economy they inherited?? Trump increased the trajectory and built on the progress. Low unemployment and inflaton.... and Biden who literally had the easiest job ever, decided to pursue a massive spending bill and literally did nothing about COVID but wait around and then declare victory prematurely biden passed the american rescue plan which expanded access to vaccines & testing. you're literally wrong, as usual.
October 14, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: Ok you're just re-tar-did with that take. Its true He was ushered into office on a bed of roses like some savior, and had literally nowhere to go but up with the economy. But all be could do was fall off his bike, surrender to terrorists, and fail to pass his massive progressive dystopian spending bill
October 14, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Its true He was ushered into office on a bed of roses like some savior, and had literally nowhere to go but up with the economy. But all be could do was fall off his bike, surrender to terrorists, and fail to pass his massive progressive dystopian spending bill Trump was the one who negotiated the deal with the Talban. That WV education is shining through again!
October 14, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Trump was the one who negotiated the deal with the Talban. That WV education is shining through again! Yeah he handed control of the entire country to Biden and said "here, I laid the groundwork for getting us out of this quagmire, all you have to do is not F it up..." I wonder what happened next
October 14, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah he handed control of the entire country to Biden and said "here, I laid the groundwork for getting us out of this quagmire, all you have to do is not F it up..." I wonder what happened next Trump negotiated with the terrorists lol.
October 14, 20223 yr You guys are right though, Biden never negotiated with the terrorists It was more him begging the terrorists to let us use the airport we just surrendered to them after he forgot to plan amy evacuations. Thank god we have a strategic, forward thinker like him as our Commander in Chief. Remember how he accurately assessed how quickly the Taliban would take over??
October 14, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: This is the intellectually dishonest comment in that it totally disregards the pandemic and puts it all on trump. I didn't say that Trump ruined the economy. All I stated was that what Trump was handed and what Biden was handed were worlds apart economically. As such, comparing their performance directly is at best challenging. The actions of the Fed have much more impact on the economy than the president in any given four years. Even changes that presidents can effect usually don't get felt for years later. I hardly think Biden has been any sort of economic wizard. The best thing I can say about Biden is that he isn't Trump, which is more than enough for me given how aggressively Trump was ripping at the seams of the nation. Trump did some things that were good, some things that were meh, and some things that were bad. The legacy of the trade war is still being felt, and the tariffs should have been lifted by Biden long ago (he's an idiot for not lifting them already). Some of the deregulation was good, some was bad. The tax cuts were stupid, even though I'm largely on board with cutting corporate taxes in a general sense; you save that for when you need to cut taxes. If we were running a surplus sure, but we were (and are) running a deficit, so we then bleed our revenue further? Dumb. If some spending cuts were made too, then great! But... republicans only care about spending when they can blame Democrats for it. edit: I also preceded the line you highlighted with "Doesn't really matter, but mostly the pandemic", referring to the pandemic as the primary cause of the economic mess Biden was given. I don't know how much more clearly I can state it.
October 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Trump negotiated with the terrorists lol. Better than begging them
October 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Better than begging them He negotiated with terrorists though
October 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: You guys are right though, Biden never negotiated with the terrorists Yes.
October 14, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah he handed control of the entire country to Biden and said "here, I laid the groundwork for getting us out of this quagmire, all you have to do is not F it up..." I wonder what happened next The deal with the Taliban was inked under trump, and he is the one that disenfranchised the Afghan government by not involving them in the negotiations. The ground work was shaky from the start.
October 14, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: The deal with the Taliban was inked under trump, and he is the one that disenfranchised the Afghan government by not involving them in the negotiations. The ground work was shaky from the start. That's what happens... ...when you negotiate with terrorists.
October 14, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: This is the intellectually dishonest comment in that it totally disregards the pandemic and puts it all on trump. What was wrong with the economy when Trump became president?
October 14, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: You guys are right though, Biden never negotiated with the terrorists It was more him begging the terrorists to let us use the airport we just surrendered to them after he forgot to plan amy evacuations. Thank god we have a strategic, forward thinker like him as our Commander in Chief. Remember how he accurately assessed how quickly the Taliban would take over?? there it is
October 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: What was wrong with the economy when Trump became president? I never said there was anything wrong with the economy when trump took office or that it wasn’t a dumpster fire when he left. On its own it’s an accurate statement, not so much when it’s used in a debate about who is doing a better job with the economy.
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