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3 minutes ago, mihailo said:

It goes both ways to be honest (people who complain about Trump's gaffes are now excusing Biden), and possibly both sides are correct. Both the previous and the current President are not fit for office if you ask me.

i'll mock both of them. joe will be a goldmine. 

 

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1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

I love that you all justify everything Biden does by comparing it back to Trump.  I guess the guy will never have to be held accountable for anything.  

The president of the united states literally can not even read a teleprompter.  

You missed the point.  The point is, wearing tan suits, messing up on a teleprompter or not saluting properly are not really relevant to good governance.   But not respecting the rule of law; trying to bully foreign powers to help your election; running sham charities; stiffing contractors, paying hush money to your mistresses and falsely alleging election fraud (constantly) are exponentially much more significant.    Did you write ironically funny blurbs about that stuff too?  

2 minutes ago, caesar said:

You missed the point.  The point is, wearing tan suits, messing up on a teleprompter or not saluting properly are not really relevant to good governance.   But not respecting the rule of law; trying to bully foreign powers to help your election; running sham charities; stiffing contractors, paying hush money to your mistresses and falsely alleging election fraud (constantly) are exponentially much more significant.    Did you write ironically funny blurbs about that stuff too?  

No. He simply spent 4 years telling us that while he doesn't support Trump or such behaviors, running sham charities, stiffing contractors, paying hush money to mistresses, bullying foreign powers, and alleging election fraud are not really relevant to good governance. 

On 3/9/2021 at 11:35 AM, Boogyman said:

I didn't say anything about how important it is. I said for one "side" to use it against the other makes no sense. It's a push, they both sound bad very often when speaking. 

I disagree that it's a push.   Trump is not just a terrible speaker, he is also ill-informed, misguided and will simply tell outright bald-faced lies (such as the election fraud con).  In other words, Trump's "bad" speaking also has malicious or devious qualities to it (not all the time -- but many times).  Biden generally might mis-speak or screw up or stumble, but he's not a TV reality show grifter.

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

Actually, I consume many forms of media and make a point to look a both sides...unlike most people.  What I see is a president who rarely takes questions and can't complete sentences when he does.  

You mean former president. Trump lost.

4 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

No. He simply spent 4 years telling us that while he doesn't support Trump or such behaviors, running sham charities, stiffing contractors, paying hush money to mistresses, bullying foreign powers, and alleging election fraud are not really relevant to good governance. 

@The Norseman sounds like Lindsey Graham ---  Let me try to divide the "magic" from the "dark side".  Except that with Trump, all that stuff is tied up together -- there is no dividing it.

1 minute ago, caesar said:

I disagree that it's a push.   Trump is not just a terrible speaker, he is also ill-informed, misguided and will simply tell outright bald-faced lies (such as the election fraud con).  In other words, Trump's "bad" speaking also has malicious or devious qualities to it (not all the time -- but many times).  Biden generally might mis-speak or screw up or stumble, but he's not a TV reallity show grifter.

the subject right now isn't about the substance of the message, it's about the delivery. 

nobody will ever match trump's rhetoric. 

2 minutes ago, caesar said:

I disagree that it's a push.   Trump is not just a terrible speaker, he is also ill-informed, misguided and will simply tell outright bald-faced lies (such as the election fraud con).  In other words, Trump's "bad" speaking also has malicious or devious qualities to it (not all the time -- but many times).  Biden generally might mis-speak or screw up or stumble, but he's not a TV reallity show grifter.

I dunno. I think they are both terrible. I'm not going to argue over who is more terrible lol.

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

You think I'm making some statement about Trump vs. Biden.  I'm not.  I'm simply pointing out the gross inadequacy of our current president's ability to communicate.  And yes, he has always been prone to gaffes.  But what we are seeing now is next level inability to even regurgitate what he is being told to say.  Anyone who doesn't have their head in liberal sand can see it.  

And why is that important to you?   What's your issue -- why does it matter?  Isn't the content more important -  that is, to back to Trump (yes, we'll go there again), he EFFECTIVELY communicated a big gigantic lie for months on end.  So is that what you prefer?   

9 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I dunno. I think they are both terrible. I'm not going to argue over who is more terrible lol.

What don't you know?   Come on stop this nonsense  -- why are Trump supporters so unwilling to admit the obvious?   Stop playing coy.  You know Trump said outrageous lies  - we all do.   Even Trump knows it and admits it in private.  

10 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

the subject right now isn't about the substance of the message, it's about the delivery. 

nobody will ever match trump's rhetoric. 

If you are a sucker for populist conmen -- sure it's great.   But for the educated, it's not.

9 minutes ago, caesar said:

What don't you know?   Come on stop this nonsense  -- why are Trump supporters so unwilling to admit the obvious?   Stop playing coy.  You know Trump said outrageous lies  - we all do.   Even Trump knows it and admits it in private.  

If you are a sucker for populist conmen -- sure it's great.   But for the educated, it's not.

Lol at calling me a Trump supporter. I almost just choked on a gulp of Gatorade. I couldn't hate that man more. Just stop.

For the "both sides" people get back to me when Biden does anything like this...

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All politicians are bad. But there's being bad within acceptable levels, and being a overtly corrupt, lecherous, traitorous scumbag. 

 

57 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And I am 100% positive Biden will never mock the handicapped, and sure as hell will not do it during a public appearance.

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If he ever did, no one would be able to tell. They'd just think he was having an episode. :lol: 

Just now, Gannan said:

For the "both sides" people get back to me when Biden does anything like this...

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All politicians are bad. But there's being bad within acceptable levels, and being a overtly corrupt, lecherous, traitorous scumbag. 

lmao, it's like TDS yearbook. :roll: 

39 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

We have 4 years of Trump data and 50 days of Biden as president.

Going to watch what happens, myself.

 

36 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

Let's see...he took the oath of office on 1/20...it's 3/10.  

Must have been a terrible 1.5 months for you.

It's not really that crazy an assessment if you believe someone who is clearly senile at best, or suffering from serious dementia at worst, probably shouldn't have the most important job on the planet. lmao

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

 

If he ever did, no one would be able to tell. They'd just think he was having an episode. :lol: 

lmao, it's like TDS yearbook. :roll: 

I'm well aware that hating America, terrorism, adultery, and unconditional surrender in the face of the enemy are all character traits that you deeply admire, no need to remind me. 

Just now, Kz! said:

 

It's not really that crazy an assessment if you believe someone who is clearly senile at best, or suffering from serious dementia at worst, probably shouldn't have the most important job on the planet. lmao

This looks like the WebMD list of BDS symptoms to me

Just now, Kz! said:

 

It's not really that crazy an assessment if you believe someone who is clearly senile at best, or suffering from serious dementia at worst, probably shouldn't have the most important job on the planet. lmao

Yeah, but in order to sell this as a genuine concern, you'd need someone who isn't a Trump suck-up, ya know?   It's hard to be all "We can't have an old senile guy as POTUS" and also be all "Trump is a stable genius who owns the libs." 

It's a tough line to straddle. Smarter mammals than you have failed.   

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11 minutes ago, Gannan said:

For the "both sides" people get back to me when Biden does anything like this...

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While the election lies and riot are the worst, this sequence just captures everything that's odious about Trump -- his rudeness, his selfishness, his desire for attention and his preening.  This is just sooo  despicable, he literally pushes someone out of the way on purpose to get in the front and then makes that face saying -- look at me, ain't I great (how does anyone like this pathetic human):

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1 minute ago, caesar said:

While the election lies and riot are the worst, this sequence just captures everything that's odious about Trump -- his rudeness, his selfishness, his desire for attention and his preening.  This is just sooo  despicable, he literally pushes someone out of the way on purpose to get in the front and then makes that face saying -- look at me, ain't I great (how does anyone like this pathetic human):

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I think this is gold and makes me laugh every time. Then jacket at the end is amazing hahaha 

2 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

Yeah, but in order to sell this as a genuine concern, you'd need someone who isn't a Trump suck-up, ya know?   It's hard to be all "We can't have an old senile guy as POTUS" and also be all "Trump is a stable genius who owns the libs." 

It's a tough line to straddle. Smarter mammals than you have failed.   

Nah, pretty sure Trump doesn't even have to factor into this equation unless you are still suffering residual effects of TDS (which, obviously, is true of all CVON's libs). Pretty much anyone can just eyeball old Joe as he stutters, stammers, and forgets his way through any short press conference or the way he's quickly whisked away from reporters by his staff whenever they catch him without a prepared speech. Like I said, at a minimum, he's senile. It can be liberating to admit, lloyd. 

10 minutes ago, Kz! said:

 

It's not really that crazy an assessment if you believe someone who is clearly senile at best, or suffering from serious dementia at worst, probably shouldn't have the most important job on the planet. lmao

Yet no Trump speech ever twigged you.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you sir, are a partisan doodle-bug.

One who can only view Trump from inside his flabby rectum.

2 minutes ago, caesar said:

 

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This is straight king ish right here. Just a total boss move.

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

This is straight king ish right here. Just a total boss move.

And that's what makes a good president for you -- "a total boss move." ?  This is the kind of person you respect and admire?  We don't have kings in the United States - hence the American Revolution.     To me, it makes him look like an a-hole.

Just now, Toastrel said:

Yet no Trump speech ever twigged you.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you sir, are a partisan doodle-bug.

One who can only view Trump from inside his flabby rectum.

lmao, "but drumfph!"

To be honest, it is incredibly telling that no ishlib in here can even begin to mount a defense of Joe's mental acuity without first bringing Trump into the conversation. It's actually hilarious. :lol: :roll: 

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