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2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

You're talking about the wrong party again

He was talking about the party that invaded the Capitol to stop the certification of a democratic election at Trump's behest.  And then still chose to embrace Trump after the fact. 

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4 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

What do Biden's nonsensical, geriatric rantings have to do with Trump anyway? 

By comparison, they are refreshing.

4 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

You're talking about the wrong party again

No, I'm definitely talking about Republicans.  If that doesn't describe you then great, fight for reform within your party.  But that's where the Republican Party stands at the moment.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

the "best" don't run. biden was the best chance to get that disaster trump out of the white house because he's an actual human...he's also experienced & more moderate than most of the other dems who ran.  we all recognize that biden is old and was never a very good public speaker...even when he was younger. 

that being said...he's been 100% perfect so far.  a lot of people are saying that. 

I think that is what needs to be critiqued. Why not? Why can internet celebrities as Lloyd mentioned become president, rather than those more capable individuals as you mentioned. Before you think I am slagging of the US system, I am not, it is the best there is; however I think we should always critique and strive for better.

1 minute ago, mihailo said:

I think that is what needs to be critiqued. Why not? Why can internet celebrities as Lloyd mentioned become president, rather than those more capable individuals as you mentioned. Before you think I am slagging of the US system, I am not, it is the best there is; however I think we should always critique and strive for better.

the best & brightest don't want the pay cut. not to mention all the scrutiny (and hate) that comes with the job. 

 

6 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

the best & brightest don't want the pay cut. not to mention all the scrutiny (and hate) that comes with the job. 

So they can possibly earn more than the $400k yearly elsewhere, but surely being President gives ambitious individuals a platform to make a great change for the future of so many and that should be enticing to many. I guess not.

If it is money, then maybe they should be paid more, considering there is no more significant job in the world.

Would I have preferred another candidate, one who could speak more eloquently and was more inspiring? Yeah. But that wasn't on the ballot.

Biden will always be compared to Trump because that's the binary choice we had in Nov 2020. Just like how the ultimate fallback position for Trump supporters the last four years was "but Hillary" 

Deal with it.

13 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

He was talking about the party that invaded the Capitol to stop the certification of a democratic election at Trump's behest.  And then still chose to embrace Trump after the fact. 

Just like the people that destroyed half of Portland for 6 months don't represent ALL democrats.  The fools that broke into the Capitol don't represent ALL republicans.  Most Republican's I know were hoping Trump would be impeached so we wouldn't have to deal with him in the primary again. 

Both sides need to stop taking the most extreme factions and their behavior as broadcast examples of their opposition.  

But here you've all turned the narrative back to Trump again, instead of the drooling old fool that you've elected. 

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Would I have preferred another candidate, one who could speak more eloquently and was more inspiring? Yeah. But that wasn't on the ballot.

Biden will always be compared to Trump because that's the binary choice we had in Nov 2020. Just like how the ultimate fallback position for Trump supporters the last four years was "but Hillary" 

Deal with it.

What do you mean by that exactly? Put up with mediocrity or endure the Presidency as you did the past 4 years? Don't critique the President, they are above any sort of scrutiny?

4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Would I have preferred another candidate, one who could speak more eloquently and was more inspiring? Yeah. But that wasn't on the ballot.

Biden will always be compared to Trump because that's the binary choice we had in Nov 2020. Just like how the ultimate fallback position for Trump supporters the last four years was "but Hillary" 

Deal with it.

You deal with it.  Biden is now our president and will be evaluated and judged as such.  He is now subject to the same scrutiny that every other president before him has been. 

55 minutes ago, mihailo said:

Someone younger, less decrepit, forward thinker. You have the best Universities and developed minds in the world, you can't tell me that is the best you have.

Maybe someone who is not a fossil that happens to be better than some chump by a small margin.

Lots of young people have run for president in both 2020 and 2016. They lost. All of them. By a lot. 

36 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

No one is talking about Trump except those of you trying to deflect from Biden's obvious shortcomings.  If Biden was a Republican president you'd all be screaming that he was unfit for office do to his drooling gibberish.  Amazing though, how the entire herd of you comes out guns blazing in his defense....I must have hit a nerve.   

What you seem to be missing in all of your queefing about Trump comparisons is that he's once again the presumptive nominee for 2024. It's perfectly reasonable to compare Biden to the candidate he'll be running against. Sucks for you, but turns thems the breaks when you sell your soul to the devil. Enjoy the irrelevance! 

1 minute ago, mihailo said:

What do you mean by that exactly? Put up with mediocrity or endure the Presidency as you did the past 4 years? Don't critique the President, they are above any sort of scrutiny?

Now the tables have turned and its our turn to critique their choice it doesn't seem like they like it, does it?

40 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Half the nation cares and you should too.  The man is barely capable of completing sentences and that's somehow ok because you didn't like the last president?  

We've moved from "literally can't" to "barely". Progress at least. 

Also, I'd like to point out that President Biden, your President, has a 60% approval rating. 

2 minutes ago, mihailo said:

What do you mean by that exactly? Put up with mediocrity or endure the Presidency as you did the past 4 years? Don't critique the President, they are above any sort of scrutiny?

I didn't say you couldn't critique the guy. Critique away, I'm not going to get all indignant. 

You'll find that I don't drive a pickup truck with a Biden flag, nor do I worship him as some savior of the union. He's a president. That's it.

But I do find it delicious to see people complaining about Biden tripping over his words when for the last four years Trump apologists saw no fault in their guy, for example, suggesting we inject bleach to defeat the virus.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

What you seem to be missing in all of your queefing about Trump comparisons is that he's once again the presumptive nominee for 2024. It's perfectly reasonable to compare Biden to the candidate he'll be running against. Sucks for you, but turns thems the breaks when you sell your soul to the devil. Enjoy the irrelevance! 

I haven't made a single Trump comparison.  I'm critiquing Biden, you guys keep bringing up Trump and it has nothing to do with the fact that he may run again.  It's because you all are obsessed with him and have been for years. 

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

I haven't made a single Trump comparison.  I'm critiquing Biden, you guys keep bringing up Trump and it has nothing to do with the fact that he may run again.  It's because you all are obsessed with him and have been for years. 

Biden is Lincoln compared to any dingbat your fascist tin foil hat party of loons will run. 

4 minutes ago, Gannan said:

We've moved from "literally can't" to "barely". Progress at least. 

Also, I'd like to point out that President Biden, your President, has a 60% approval rating. 

Trump's was 62% in March of 2017

11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Would I have preferred another candidate, one who could speak more eloquently and was more inspiring? Yeah. But that wasn't on the ballot.

Biden will always be compared to Trump because that's the binary choice we had in Nov 2020. Just like how the ultimate fallback position for Trump supporters the last four years was "but Hillary" 

Deal with it.

And until Trump says he's not running in 2024, it's going to be the same choice we'll have again in 4 years. Maybe Biden steps down and Harris runs against Trump, but until that happens, the Biden v Trump comparison is what'll dominate the discussion because that's what the choices presumably will be.

Just now, Gannan said:

Biden is Lincoln compared to any dingbat your fascist tin foil hat party of loons will run. 

Lincoln was possibly the most hated president in history while he was in office.  So hated in fact that he was murdered while in office by his opposition. 

He also happened to be a Republican.

6 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

I haven't made a single Trump comparison.  I'm critiquing Biden, you guys keep bringing up Trump and it has nothing to do with the fact that he may run again.  It's because you all are obsessed with him and have been for years. 

It has plenty to do with the fact he'll run again. You're just pissy because you know it's another guaranteed loss and there's nothing you can do about it. Maybe don't vote for an absolute moron and abject failure next time and you won't be in this unenviable situation.

Just now, The Norseman said:

Trump's was 62% in March of 2017

In what universe did that happen? Trump never cracked 50%. And don't give me Rasmussen, they don't count. I don't think even Rasmussen got above 51.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/trump-job-approval-personal-best.aspx

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

Trump's was 62% in March or 2017

No he wasn't.

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Norseman's not a Trump supporter. :lol:

1 minute ago, The Norseman said:

Lincoln was possibly the most hated president in history while he was in office.  So hated in fact that he was murdered while in office by his opposition. 

He also happened to be a Republican.

Yeah the republican party Lincoln led is so much like the one today that wants to get rid of elections, term limits, congress, and civil rights. Good call. 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

No he wasn't.

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Norseman goes with alternate facts polls

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