May 14, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, lynched1 said: Biden is failing so hard he's becoming a Trump clone. 100% tariffs on Chinese electric cars? How Trumpian. Embrace your orange overlord bishes. 🤣 If this is true then get ready for a lesson on how the tariffs that were bad not too long ago are now a great idea.
May 14, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: are they the same types of tariffs as what cheeto did? A lot of people are saying these are the most America First policies they've ever seen.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, mr_hunt said: are they the same types of tariffs as what cheeto did? it's on top of the Trump ones that were never taken away. Sounds kinda crazy with inflation being the #1 issue killing Biden.
May 14, 20241 yr Polis is great. But it's pretty hilarious that Republicans can't trash these tariffs because they'd have to admit that Trump wants to impose a much bigger tax on every American.
May 14, 20241 yr I largely ignored this because there are no chinese EVs to speak of here, but 50% on all semiconductors? Is there an exemption for imports from Taiwan? This is dumb as F.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I largely ignored this because there are no chinese EVs to speak of here, but 50% on all semiconductors? Is there an exemption for imports from Taiwan? This is dumb as F. I believe Taiwan is exempted.
May 14, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: I believe Taiwan is exempted. Still F'ing stupid. Trade wars are counter-productive. We shouldn't be trying to out-commie the commies.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Still F'ing stupid. Trade wars are counter-productive. We shouldn't be trying to out-commie the commies. Biden has made some mistakes in his first term. Keeping Trump's tariffs in place has been a major one. Those tariffs are partially responsible for the inflation we've been seeing. Another is Merrick Garland. Good lord what a terrible AG he has been. My god.
May 14, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GreenReaper said: If this is true then get ready for a lesson on how the tariffs that were bad not too long ago are now a great idea. womp womp 18 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Polis is great. But it's pretty hilarious that Republicans can't trash these tariffs because they'd have to admit that Trump wants to impose a much bigger tax on every American. 11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I largely ignored this because there are no chinese EVs to speak of here, but 50% on all semiconductors? Is there an exemption for imports from Taiwan? This is dumb as F. 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Still F'ing stupid. Trade wars are counter-productive. We shouldn't be trying to out-commie the commies.
May 14, 20241 yr Can't wait for libs to complain about the cost of electronics, cars, and home appliances. It's almost like those things require shittons of steel, aluminum, and semiconductors to manufacture. Also, I'm sure all the trumpbots that acted like Beijing Biden was in Xi's pocket will show up and admit they were wrong now.
May 14, 20241 yr For this to make sense and get an applause from me he would now have to come back and eliminate the Trump tariffs on Europe. That was the issue I had with Trump's tariffs, if you want to corner your enemy then you better get your friends on board.
May 14, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, GreenReaper said: If this is true then get ready for a lesson on how the tariffs that were bad not too long ago are now a great idea. 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Also, I'm sure all the trumpbots that acted like Beijing Biden was in Xi's pocket will show up and admit they were wrong now. If he wasn't polling worse than Jimmy Carter in 1979 he wouldn't be bothered with it.
May 14, 20241 yr On 5/13/2024 at 9:52 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: doesn't matter. idiot lemmings like kz and lynched have already internalized it. Keep making your excuses. You arrogant motherFers don't learn anything until you're brain panned with it.
May 15, 20241 yr Author Ready for it? ... ...... ......... ............ ......... ...... ... BOSS MOVE Quote Biden proposes June and September faceoffs with Trump, ditching debate commission The president said he will not participate in the traditional televised showdowns organized by the Commission on Presidential Debates. By Michael Scherer and Josh Dawsey May 15, 2024 at 8:00 a.m. EDT President Biden said Wednesday that he will not participate in the decades-old tradition of three fall meetings organized by the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, instead calling on his Republican rival Donald Trump to join him for two televised presidential debates in June and September. The Biden proposal, outlined in a video message and letter to the commission, called for direct negotiations between the Trump and Biden campaigns over the rules, moderators and network hosts for the one-on-one meetings. He proposed a separate vice-presidential debate in July, after the Republican nominating convention and before the Democratic nominating convention. "Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020, and since then he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice,” Biden said in the video released Wednesday that referenced the weekly break in Trump’s New York criminal trial. "So let’s pick the dates, Donald. I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.” Biden campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon cited the commission’s proposed schedule and past struggles to keep candidates from violating the debate rules in the letter explaining the decision. "The Commission’s model of building huge spectacles with large audiences at great expense simply isn’t necessary or conducive to good debates,” she wrote. "The debates should be conducted for the benefit of the American voters, watching on television and at home — not as entertainment for an in-person audience with raucous or disruptive partisans and donors, who consume valuable debate time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering.” Trump and the Republican National Committee have also expressed interest in bypassing the commission, which has convened presidential debates since the 1988 election. The commission has already scheduled one vice-presidential and three presidential debates, starting on Sept. 16 with a presidential candidate meeting in Texas that would have been simultaneously broadcast by major broadcast and cable news networks. "Let’s set it up right now,” Trump told Biden in a social media video on May 9. "I’m ready to go anywhere that you are.” Trump suggested debating in D.C. — perhaps at the White House — or in New York. The Biden proposal will be the subject of extensive negotiations between the two camps over the coming weeks. Biden’s team has requested that only broadcast networks that hosted Republican primary debates in 2016 and Democratic primary debates in 2020 be eligible to host this year’s events. Only four networks — CNN, ABC News, Telemundo and CBS News — hosted debates for both parties during those cycles. Biden proposed that the moderator should be selected by the broadcast host from their "regular personnel,” with firm time limits for answers, equal speaking time, alternative turns to speak and microphones that are only active during each candidate’s turn. The first debate would take place after the June 15 conclusion of the Group of Seven summit in Italy and the conclusion of Trump’s criminal trial in New York. The September debate would take place before the start of early voting. "Americans need a debate on the issues — not a tedious debate about debates,” O’Malley Dillon wrote in her letter. The Commission on Presidential Debates, an independent nonprofit with a bipartisan board, began sponsoring presidential debates after the two major party presidential campaigns in 1984 struggled to agree on terms. Until then, debates had been inconsistent events, subject to significant disputes between the candidates. Republican Richard M. Nixon and Democrat John F. Kennedy had been the first to meet in a televised presidential debate during the 1960 election. The next major party presidential debate took place in 1976, followed by directly negotiated meetings in 1980 and 1984. The commission sought to standardize the practice as a neutral arbiter, creating a candidate qualification standard of at least 15 percent in national polling and a ballot access requirement that provided a path to victory in the electoral college. The commission also picked the locations, moderators and formats, eventually setting a pattern of three fall presidential candidate debates, including one town hall-style event, and one vice-presidential candidate debate. That system has met bipartisan resistance in recent years. Biden’s advisers were furious about the commission’s failure to enforce agreed upon masking and Covid-testing requirements at the first debate in 2020. Three former aides later said that Trump had tested positive for covid days before that meeting with Biden, though he only made his condition public afterward. Biden’s aides also objected to the debate commission’s failure to contain Trump’s outbursts during the first meeting. The Republican National Committee announced in 2022 that the party would leave the commission’s debate system altogether, calling the body "biased” because it had started the 2020 debates after voting had begun, its board members had been critical of Trump and it had failed to consult the campaign on some format issues. The RNC also objected to the commission’s 2020 decision to hire a debate moderator, C-SPAN anchor Steve Scully, who had briefly interned during college in Biden’s Senate office in 1978. Two top Trump campaign advisers, Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita, announced last month that the timing of the commission’s first debate was "unacceptable.” "We are committed to making this happen with or without the Presidential Debate Commission,” they wrote in a statement. "We extend an invitation to every television network in America that wishes to host a debate, and we once again call on Joe Biden’s team to work with us to set one up as soon as possible.” Commission co-chair Frank J. Fahrenkopf Jr., a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, was optimistic as late as Tuesday that his organization’s system would endure, saying in a Zoom call with members of the moderate group No Labels that he hadn’t heard from either campaign but expected to in the coming months. "We do a pretty good job of walking down the middle,” Fahrenkopf said. "We don’t take sides.” Fahrenkopf said that the commission’s debates could not be scheduled until after Sept. 6, the last date when states to determine what candidates appear on their November ballots, since ballot access is a condition of debate eligibility under the commission’s rules. Independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and other third-party contenders would not qualify under the commission’s rules given their current polling and ballot access. But the Biden proposal would cut them out of major party debates even if their polling rises in the coming months and they qualify for enough ballots to win the electoral college. Biden hinted at his decision to leave the commission system and directly negotiate debates with Trump during an April 26 interview with SiriusXM host Howard Stern. Even though the commission had already announced the dates for its debates, Biden told Stern that the time and place for their meetings was still uncertain. "Somewhere, I don’t know when,” Biden said. "I am happy to debate him.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/15/biden-trump-presidential-debates/
May 15, 20241 yr Not sure what the benefit of a June debate is. Trump is just going to yell and scream at him the entire time without answering any of the moderator's questions anyway.
May 15, 20241 yr That is a huge tactical mistake by Biden. Trump will not comply with the rules as is his history. He will whine and complain about the rules, berate the moderator, constantly interrupt, lie and go over his allotted time. Biden should not give the liar and blowhard the stage and steer clear of him until the election.
May 15, 20241 yr I'd say 1 debate after the conventions with the agreement mics get cut off after their time is up.
May 15, 20241 yr Author 22 minutes ago, Gannan said: Not sure what the benefit of a June debate is. Trump is just going to yell and scream at him the entire time without answering any of the moderator's questions anyway. I've wondered in the past if the debates are too close to the election to really affect the momentum. I like the idea of holding an earlier debate, but I'd probably still hold 3 of them.
May 15, 20241 yr It’ll never happen. No chance they’ll ever agree on moderators. Trump will demand that it’s Tucker Carlson and the Jan 6th Shaman to make sure Biden doesn’t agree to it. He’s scared.
May 15, 20241 yr Trump won't want CNN and he needs the crowd there so he can stock it with sycophants to feed his fragile ego. No chance he agrees to this.
May 15, 20241 yr Anyone with even a little bit of polish would be able to absolutely destroy Biden at this point. His tenure has been a disaster thus far and he barely knows where he is most days. Trump, however, is the opposite of polished. So yeah, either he won't do it, or he will and he'll spend all his time yelling about stuff that doesn't make any sense.
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