April 12, 20214 yr There's a lot in this bill that doesn't fit with the very narrow definition of infrastructure (roads & bridges) that Republicans are trying to use. Things Republicans are arguing are not part of infrastructure: Expansion of Broadband Building new and upgrading existing public schools Power grid investments Electric vehicle rebates & tax incentives Replacing all remaining lead pipes (see: Flint) Investments in mass transport systems In the minutiae, an analysis by Bank of America agrees with Biden that the plan will help bring manufacturing of computer chips back to the US (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-urges-50-billion-to-boost-chip-manufacturing-in-u-s-11617211570).. I'm a bit skeptical of anything that claims manufacturing will come back in a meaningful way here in the US, but he's certainly taking a swing at it here - and the reasons to bring at least some of this production back extend beyond just protectionism. The more controversial elements are around the "care economy" components - things Biden/etc. believe will help free up unemployed and underemployed Americans from some of the burdens that prevent them from fully engaging in the job market.
April 12, 20214 yr If it doesn't pass through congress, Biden should just divert pentagon funding to pay for it. Republicans thought that was pretty good idea the last time that was done.
April 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's a lot in this bill that doesn't fit with the very narrow definition of infrastructure (roads & bridges) that Republicans are trying to use. Things Republicans are arguing are not part of infrastructure: Expansion of Broadband Building new and upgrading existing public schools Power grid investments Electric vehicle rebates & tax incentives Replacing all remaining lead pipes (see: Flint) Investments in mass transport systems In the minutiae, an analysis by Bank of America agrees with Biden that the plan will help bring manufacturing of computer chips back to the US (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-urges-50-billion-to-boost-chip-manufacturing-in-u-s-11617211570).. I'm a bit skeptical of anything that claims manufacturing will come back in a meaningful way here in the US, but he's certainly taking a swing at it here - and the reasons to bring at least some of this production back extend beyond just protectionism. The more controversial elements are around the "care economy" components - things Biden/etc. believe will help free up unemployed and underemployed Americans from some of the burdens that prevent them from fully engaging in the job market. I'm not sure why they're arguing that broadband expansion, power grid improvements or fixing lead piping aren't infrastructure. In the 21st century, the first two certainly are, and it's hard to believe we're even still talking about the third one.
April 12, 20214 yr Expand the definition of infrastructure! We're 21 years in the 21st century for chissakes! It seems we've figured out why Trump didn't get anything done in 4 years. Conservatives can't get out of their own way.
April 12, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I'm not sure why they're arguing that broadband expansion, power grid improvements or fixing lead piping aren't infrastructure. In the 21st century, the first two certainly are, and it's hard to believe we're even still talking about the third one. They're mostly sticking to simple terms they think can win headlines ... "not roads and bridges!" therefore not infrastructure is dumb.
April 12, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: They're mostly sticking to simple terms they think can win headlines ... "not roads and bridges!" therefore not infrastructure is dumb. Right, but adding things in that are both popular and infrastructure-related seems pretty stupid from a PR perspective. They should stick with their usual tactic of choosing one small, largely inconsequential portion of the bill and talking about it ad naseum, like "Death panels!"
April 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Right, but adding things in that are both popular and infrastructure-related seems pretty stupid from a PR perspective. They should stick with their usual tactic of choosing one small, largely inconsequential portion of the bill and talking about it ad naseum, like "Death panels!" Trump talked about doing an infrastructure pan and a lot of this was supposed to be in it. To be fair, trying to pass legislation is time consuming and takes time away from golfing and rage tweeting so it's up to Biden to pick up the ball and run with it.
April 12, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's a lot in this bill that doesn't fit with the very narrow definition of infrastructure (roads & bridges) that Republicans are trying to use. Things Republicans are arguing are not part of infrastructure: Expansion of Broadband Building new and upgrading existing public schools Power grid investments Electric vehicle rebates & tax incentives Replacing all remaining lead pipes (see: Flint) Investments in mass transport systems In the minutiae, an analysis by Bank of America agrees with Biden that the plan will help bring manufacturing of computer chips back to the US (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-urges-50-billion-to-boost-chip-manufacturing-in-u-s-11617211570).. I'm a bit skeptical of anything that claims manufacturing will come back in a meaningful way here in the US, but he's certainly taking a swing at it here - and the reasons to bring at least some of this production back extend beyond just protectionism. The more controversial elements are around the "care economy" components - things Biden/etc. believe will help free up unemployed and underemployed Americans from some of the burdens that prevent them from fully engaging in the job market. We saw how Foxconn worked out aka a total disaster so not holding my breath on bringing manufacturing back.
April 12, 20214 yr Just now, Gannan said: Trump talked about doing an infrastructure pan and a lot of this was supposed to be in it. To be fair, trying to pass legislation is time consuming and takes time away from golfing and rage tweeting so it's up to Biden to pick up the ball and run with it. Healthcare is just two weeks away
April 12, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: We saw how Foxconn worked out aka a total disaster so not holding my breath on bringing manufacturing back. Yep. Wisconsin got nothing. Hence my skepticism. The only way I see it happening is if we committed to the idea as part of defense spending as a national security issue as part of the socialism-adjacent military industrial complex.
April 12, 20214 yr Yes, 2 wrongs don't make a right .The latest 2 wrongs were OBONGO and Hidn Biden. The only thing the Commiecrats can pack is the Hershey Highway.
April 12, 20214 yr Author 20 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Who's clone is this idiot? Does anyone know? I have a couple theories, but lately I'm thinking Shocker.@Shocker54 = @Freedom 76
April 13, 20214 yr Listen my friends. I'm no ones clone. Some here are upset that I'm a Trump backer and my names for Schmoebama and Biden. I'm an independent thinker.Skaka Zulu Obongo was a con man with emphasis on con. Remember who was the most recent Socialst Globalist President to send weapons to Mexican drug cartels some of which were used to kill BP agents.How about having the IRS harass conservatives that were forming Tax Exempt organizations. I guess that wasn't RACIST either. Apparently he read Nixons book on how to harass your political opponents.
April 13, 20214 yr Author 48 minutes ago, Freedom 76 said: Skaka Zulu Obongo You're one of those T-baggers who went to the idiot convention and walked around holding up signs with Obama photoshopped as an African medicine man, aren't you?
April 13, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's a lot in this bill that doesn't fit with the very narrow definition of infrastructure (roads & bridges) that Republicans are trying to use. Things Republicans are arguing are not part of infrastructure: Expansion of Broadband Building new and upgrading existing public schools Power grid investments Electric vehicle rebates & tax incentives Replacing all remaining lead pipes (see: Flint) Investments in mass transport systems In the minutiae, an analysis by Bank of America agrees with Biden that the plan will help bring manufacturing of computer chips back to the US (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-urges-50-billion-to-boost-chip-manufacturing-in-u-s-11617211570).. I'm a bit skeptical of anything that claims manufacturing will come back in a meaningful way here in the US, but he's certainly taking a swing at it here - and the reasons to bring at least some of this production back extend beyond just protectionism. The more controversial elements are around the "care economy" components - things Biden/etc. believe will help free up unemployed and underemployed Americans from some of the burdens that prevent them from fully engaging in the job market. Haha silly Republicans...
April 13, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Freedom 76 said: Listen my friends. I'm no ones clone. Some here are upset that I'm a Trump backer and my names for Schmoebama and Biden. I'm an independent thinker.Skaka Zulu Obongo was a con man with emphasis on con. Remember who was the most recent Socialst Globalist President to send weapons to Mexican drug cartels some of which were used to kill BP agents.How about having the IRS harass conservatives that were forming Tax Exempt organizations. I guess that wasn't RACIST either. Apparently he read Nixons book on how to harass your political opponents. Whatever you say Qanon Ron.....
April 13, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, Freedom 76 said: I do have a history of giving people monikers. Ok Freedum 76.
April 13, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, Kz! said: Haha silly Republicans... Nilla wafers are now infrastructure. Do I get part of the infrastructure stimulus when I buy chips and wafers?
April 13, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Boogyman said: Ok Freedum 76. I’ll admit that I don’t agree on most things you post,,🤣🤣🤣🤣 but that response was funny as hell!
April 13, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Kz! said: Haha silly Republicans... yeah Biden is a moron. thats the same ol' welfare state
April 13, 20214 yr 13 hours ago, Freedom 76 said: I do have a history of giving people monikers. not to mention giving people STD's.
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