Who Killed JFK?

[c_u_in_tampa]

JFK didnt die, he went to club-med and him and Hitler banged ****s and drank rum. 

[Mike030270]

CVON

[greend]

I actually found this theory very intriguing https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/accidental-assassin-jfk-theory-alleges-secret-service-agent-fumbled-gun-flna2D11634276

[jsdarkstar]

2 hours ago, greend said:

I actually found this theory very intriguing https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/accidental-assassin-jfk-theory-alleges-secret-service-agent-fumbled-gun-flna2D11634276

Yeah it's a theory. However, the trajectory of the bullet would not match and would result in a different outcome. It also doesn't explain the other bullet that went through his back and into Connelly. Both go up and from behind, the motorcycle was too low. 

[The Norseman]

To me, the killing of JFK was never as interesting as the killing of Oswald.  If you're looking into conspiracy theories, start with Jack Ruby and work backwards. 

[PoconoDon]

Who killed JFK?

Some Lunatic Bravado Junkie, no doubt about it.

[Green_Guinness]

There's definitely shady ish is this story.  Seriously, how does Oswald go to the Soviet Union to defect and then is welcomed back to the US with his wife and child as well during the height of the Cold War?  Not even detained and questioned?  Something is really wrong there. 

Problem with this is you can't even get experts to agree.  For instance, PBS did a segment where they had a couple firearms experts conduct an experiment to show that the Magic Bullet (a Carcano bullet) could have passed through human bodies and still be pristine and that it would yaw while passing through human flesh.  They shot it through soap and gelatin to show that the bullet would yaw.  They shot it through 3 feet of pine wood and it was pristine.  Then someone rebuts them saying the test they did is wrong, that he used animal bones as soft wood like pine isn't comparable to human bone/ligaments/tendons and his test revealed the bullet was damaged. 

And there's this:

By Joseph R. Dolce, MD, FACS

I am the Chief Consultant for the US Army in wound ballistics at the Edgewood Arsenal and Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. I have been dealing with high velocity missles for the Army for the past twenty–five years and I feel that there are no forensic pathologists in this country who have had the experience I have had with this type of missile. The forensic pathologist in civilian life, deals primarily with homicides caused by slow velocity missiles. I am disturbed as to why I was not asked by the Warren Commission to give final testimony, even though Doctors Olivier and Dzimean, to whom I serve as their Consultant were called, to give final testimony. I had advised these doctors to conduct certain experiments at Edgewood — which they did — and their findings were not consistent with their testimony. Dr. Olivier accepts Dr. Gregory’s impression of what was the entrance and what was the exit wounds of Connaley’s right wrist, in spite of the fact, that his experiments on ten (10) cadaver wrists proved just the opposite — yet, he is willing to accept the conclusions of Gregory, who has no wound ballistic experience. This is extremely important, as he then tries to fit the yaw and the tumbling effects to coincide with Gregory’s interpretations — this is wrong and this is the part of the investigation that has been criticized so bitterly in medical circles. Personally, I strongly believe that the wrist wound in a separate and distinct wound made by one of the shots by Oswald. Also — this bullet is not deformed and yet, the bullets that struck the cadaver wrists are badly deformed, and these same bullets did not go through a neck or through a chest wall. In the experiments on ten cadaver wrists, all the exit wounds are larger than the entrance wounds — this is a known fact — yet, Dr. Olivier chose to accept Gregory’s thoughts of Connaley’s wound as just the opposite. I feel that the first bullet fired by Oswald went through the President’s neck and caused him to become paralyzed even though the bullet did not strike the spine. This is due to the fact that you can have an injury to the spinal cord with high velocity missiles without the missiles striking the cord, because of the large temporary cavity produced by high velocity missiles. I can demonstrate and prove this fact by several films which we have developed at the Edgewood Arsenal. The autopsy should have included a section of the cervical spinal cord, which I am sure would have demonstrated a hemorrhage. I am convinced that the one bullet theory is wrong, because of the fact, that one bullet striking the President’s neck, the Governor’s chest and wrist, should be badly deformed, as our experiments at the Edgewood Arsenal proved. There never was a bullet in Governor Connaley’s left thigh, but just a small fragment which I feel came from the third bullet which struck J.F.K. in the head. My testimony on the one bullet theory are clearly written in Dr. Thompson’s book — "Six Seconds in Dallas” on pages 152 and 206.

I've accepted we'll never know the truth.  However, I do think Oswald at least had some kind of help or was 'pushed' in the right direction by people who needed him to get a job done.  I don't think it was him all by himself.  He was at least manipulated and had some kind of help along the way.  And I can't rule out that it was aliens because that dude with the Greek name and wild hair has to be right at least once.  Right?

 

[Arsenal79]

Chicago mobster and CIA asset James Files shot JFK from the grassy knoll.  Also shooting was Charles Nicoletti from the Dal-Tex building.  May have been one shooter in the book depository as well, likely not Oswald.

Obviously Jack Ruby then capped Oswald to shut him up permanently, also on behalf of the Chicago mob which he was a part of.

Anyone who believes the official story about why Ruby killed Oswald is a gullible fool.

[SNOORDA]

On 11/18/2020 at 4:57 PM, we_gotta_believe said:

Don't know much about that one. Just that it was at a campaign event and sirhan sirhan was part of that kitchen staff and apparently was full blown crazy. Hearing voices in his head that told him to do it or some such. Apparently security back in those days wasn't as strict for something like that to have happened 

I didnt know he was part of the kitchen staff.  You sure about that part?

 I know he got shot as he went through the kitchen.  Always wondered why he went through the kitchen. Bad call whoever sent him that route. 

[we_gotta_believe]

20 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

I didnt know he was part of the kitchen staff.  You sure about that part?

 I know he got shot as he went through the kitchen.  Always wondered why he went through the kitchen. Bad call whoever sent him that route. 

I could be wrong, I know very little about that one. Of the three assassinations, I'm least informed on RFK.

[SNOORDA]

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I could be wrong, I know very little about that one. Of the three assassinations, I'm least informed on RFK.

He basically just became the dems nominee and probably would have been the next pres.   snuffed out by a lone nutjobber.
 

Some people think sirhan was brainwashed.    Of  course that’s the only explanation that could float if you choose to believe it was a conspiracy.   And when you look at the history with rfk(and fighting the mob) as well as his brothers how can you not think conspiracy? I mean it was the perfect timing to take him out if he was your enemy because it was basically right after the moment he became a serious threat to become president and right before he would have become a very hard target. That’s a small window.   
 

The timing is every

theres a good doc on Netflix about rfk

[Alphagrand]

28 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

He basically just became the dems nominee and probably would have been the next pres.   snuffed out by a lone nutjobber.
 

Some people think sirhan was brainwashed.    Of  course that’s the only explanation that could float if you choose to believe it was a conspiracy.   And when you look at the history with rfk(and fighting the mob) as well as his brothers how can you not think conspiracy? I mean it was the perfect timing to take him out if he was your enemy because it was basically right after the moment he became a serious threat to become president and right before he would have become a very hard target. That’s a small window.   
 

The timing is every

theres a good doc on Netflix about rfk

According to Larry King, he was warned by Jim Garrison that Bobby Kennedy would be killed as well, shortly before it happened.

At its most superficial level the JFK assassination looks like how the CIA would kill somebody.  
The RFK assassination looks like how the mob would kill somebody.

It is fair to say, though, that the mob of that time period was a network.  The Chicago crime bosses and New Orleans crime bosses were not totally independent of one another — and their influence likely touched some levels of government 

[SNOORDA]

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

At its most superficial level the JFK assassination looks like how the CIA would kill somebody.  
The RFK assassination looks like how the mob would kill somebody.

It is fair to say, though, that the mob of that time period was a network.  The Chicago crime bosses and New Orleans crime bosses were not totally independent of one another — and their influence likely touched some levels of government 

Totally agree.    But then again, mod...cia... they worked pretty closely together so samesame?

[SNOORDA]

3 minutes ago, Toty said:

JFK = 9/11 = flat earth = bilderberg = sandy hook = mena, arkansas = illuminati = bigfoot = roswell = magic melanin = MK ultra = moon landing = ...

you're all kissing cousins and an endless barrel of laughs

please, PLEASE, keep the material coming

You forgot comet pizza

[SNOORDA]

53 minutes ago, Toty said:

OH, and reptilian overlords!

I forgot reptilian overlords!

To be fair jfk and rfk arent so far fetched as many you mentioned.  Especially when you add in all the circumstances.  Not saying it wasnt aswald and sirhan alone just saying it deserves our close look.  

[DBW]

Colonel Rona did it.  

[Arsenal79]

4 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

According to Larry King, he was warned by Jim Garrison that Bobby Kennedy would be killed as well, shortly before it happened.

At its most superficial level the JFK assassination looks like how the CIA would kill somebody.  
The RFK assassination looks like how the mob would kill somebody.

It is fair to say, though, that the mob of that time period was a network.  The Chicago crime bosses and New Orleans crime bosses were not totally independent of one another — and their influence likely touched some levels of government 

The mob and the CIA were hand in glove back then.  They worked together on the Cuban invasion and sabotage programs to take out Castro and the communists.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/01/operation-mongoose/549737/

 

[sameaglesfan]

[eaglegenius]

Obviously it was LBJ. It happened in his home state of Texas and he inherited the presidency.

[SNOORDA]

4 minutes ago, Toty said:

anybody who doesn't believe it was Bert is a gullible fool

Never trusted that dude even as a kid 

[VanHammersly]

I was researching a TV show treatment about a group of drug runners in the 70's and 80's and I met up with a guy in Nashville who was the son of a Senator and was at one point connected to these drug runners.  We had a bunch of beers and got sheet faced and at the end of the meet up he asked me if I wanted to know who really killed JFK.  I said yes and he wrote a name down on a piece of paper and walked out.

[we_gotta_believe]

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I was researching a TV show treatment about a group of drug runners in the 70's and 80's and I met up with a guy in Nashville who was the son of a Senator and was at one point connected to these drug runners.  We had a bunch of beers and got sheet faced and at the end of the meet up he asked me if I wanted to know who really killed JFK.  I said yes and he wrote a name down on a piece of paper and walked out.

[VanHammersly]

4 minutes ago, Toty said:

Was it Keyser Soze? Don Rickles? My neighbor Pete?

seriously, we're all hanging on the edge of seats here, deep throat

It was Kennedy himself.  It was an elaborately staged suicide.

[greend]

2 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

It was Kennedy himself.  It was an elaborately staged suicide.

I knew it!!!

[SNOORDA]

On 11/25/2020 at 8:23 AM, VanHammersly said:

It was Kennedy himself.  It was an elaborately staged suicide.

Nope.  It was NASA.   Kennedy was pressuring them into doing things which would have exposed the flat earth. He had to go and who better to do it than NASA.  i mean they have fooled us all into believing the earth is a ball for how long?  Killing a potus is kiddy games for  NASA