A lot of threads and posts stating the obvious of what needs to be done. I wanted to discuss specifically GM targets.

Who do you guys have your eyes set on and why? Maybe we should be looking at an assistant in a successful organization instead of bringing in someone who’s been around the block with an old mindset?
 

Times Yours. 

I'd like someone with a completely fresh outlook. Someone with new ideas that's going to make major changes within the organisation both in terms of coaches and personnel.

I'd like Daniel Jeremiah but that would be a real gamble given he doesn't have any GM experience. 

Louis Riddick sounded pretty smart to me last night.

Louis riddick.
 

The only thing that scares me about him was how wrong he was about Trubisky. 

Louis Riddick also predicted Wentz as a 2019 League MVP

Riddick was here when he, Roseman and Grigson were interviewed for the job in 2010. I'm not opposed to him being interviewed, but as far as what he said last night, he may be right but he also has an ax to grind. 

I'd like to know why Riddick was ultimately pushed out, and why he hasn't had a front office job in several years now.

19 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Riddick was here when he, Roseman and Grigson were interviewed for the job in 2010. I'm not opposed to him being interviewed, but as far as what he said last night, he may be right but he also has an ax to grind. 

Didn't sound to me like he was grinding any axes. He spread the blame pretty well IMO.

31 minutes ago, FlankingRight said:

Louis Riddick also predicted Wentz as a 2019 League MVP

To be fair, who predicted the decimation of the WR corp in 2019? 

Aside from Roseman’s path, what is usually the path to GM? Is it from many different background or is it on average one specific path to GM? 

Someone from Chiefs, Steelers, or Ravens

They know how to draft

I posted this in another thread, but it belongs here:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/next-potential-nfl-general-managers-gms-2021-2022
 

These would be the top of my list:

Mike Borgonzi (Director of Football Operations, Kansas City Chiefs): The former Brown Fullback who worked briefly in the financial sector before coming to the NFL, Borgonzi brings his Ivy League-educated aptitude to evaluation and team building. He’s known for his attention to detail, keen eye as an evaluator, collaborative approach, and his unparalleled work ethic. Now in his 11th year, he is extremely well versed in every aspect of football operations as Brett Veach’s right-hand man. He started as the college scouting administrator, then managed football operations, then was a pro personnel scout, Assistant Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel, and then Director of Football Operations. He’s worked with and learned from Scott Pioli, John Dorsey, Andy Reid, Chris Ballard, and Brett Veach in the construction of the Chiefs’ Super Bowl LIV winning roster.
 

Chris Shea (Football Operations Counsel/Personnel Executive-Kansas City Chiefs): Shea may be the most diverse candidate in this cycle with a skill set that rivals very few in the NFL. He is an attorney who also has extensive expertise in salary cap management, evaluating both pro/college prospects, coaching, analytics, and NFL labor law.  After earning his Juris Doctor and a license to practice law, he was hired to work in the NFL league office. He then returned to the NFL with the Miami Dolphins in the role of Player Personnel Coordinator and Administration. He was later promoted to Assistant Director of Pro Scouting. He then became the Director of Scouting Administration/Strategic Management with the Philadelphia Eagles. He is currently with the Chiefs, where he has contributed to scouting, salary cap, legal counsel, football operations, and player personnel—working in nearly every capacity of football operations. He has worked with Bill Parcells, Dick Haley, Dan Henning, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, and currently works closely with Brett Veach. 
 

 

Was looking at the front office staff of KC and I’ll take the Janitor at this point. 

6 minutes ago, MidMoFo said:

I posted this in another thread, but it belongs here:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/next-potential-nfl-general-managers-gms-2021-2022
 

These would be the top of my list:

Mike Borgonzi (Director of Football Operations, Kansas City Chiefs): The former Brown Fullback who worked briefly in the financial sector before coming to the NFL, Borgonzi brings his Ivy League-educated aptitude to evaluation and team building. He’s known for his attention to detail, keen eye as an evaluator, collaborative approach, and his unparalleled work ethic. Now in his 11th year, he is extremely well versed in every aspect of football operations as Brett Veach’s right-hand man. He started as the college scouting administrator, then managed football operations, then was a pro personnel scout, Assistant Director of Pro Scouting, Director of Player Personnel, and then Director of Football Operations. He’s worked with and learned from Scott Pioli, John Dorsey, Andy Reid, Chris Ballard, and Brett Veach in the construction of the Chiefs’ Super Bowl LIV winning roster.
 

Chris Shea (Football Operations Counsel/Personnel Executive-Kansas City Chiefs): Shea may be the most diverse candidate in this cycle with a skill set that rivals very few in the NFL. He is an attorney who also has extensive expertise in salary cap management, evaluating both pro/college prospects, coaching, analytics, and NFL labor law.  After earning his Juris Doctor and a license to practice law, he was hired to work in the NFL league office. He then returned to the NFL with the Miami Dolphins in the role of Player Personnel Coordinator and Administration. He was later promoted to Assistant Director of Pro Scouting. He then became the Director of Scouting Administration/Strategic Management with the Philadelphia Eagles. He is currently with the Chiefs, where he has contributed to scouting, salary cap, legal counsel, football operations, and player personnel—working in nearly every capacity of football operations. He has worked with Bill Parcells, Dick Haley, Dan Henning, Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, and currently works closely with Brett Veach. 
 

 

Problem is we will never know who had what say in drafting specific players. Could be anyone. Could’ve been Reid.

Maybe Lurie can offer Ozzie Newsome some ownership to come out of retirement...

4 minutes ago, FlankingRight said:

Was looking at the front office staff of KC and I’ll take the Janitor at this point. 

Why not John Dorsey? He’s available and is the one who drafted Mahomes, Hill & Kelce. 

6 minutes ago, FlankingRight said:

Problem is we will never know who had what say in drafting specific players. Could be anyone. Could’ve been Reid.

That’s where you need trusted sources to help guide the search, plus the interviews. 

Dawk???  Look at what Lynch did for the niners 🙂

1 hour ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

To be fair, who predicted the decimation of the WR corp in 2019? 

Um, a lot of us did. Alshon has always had injury issues and is getting older so that wasn’t going to go away. And it was pretty clear that Jackson was getting old and sure to start seeing more injuries. 

2 minutes ago, nipples said:

Um, a lot of us did. Alshon has always had injury issues and is getting older so that wasn’t going to go away. And it was pretty clear that Jackson was getting old and sure to start seeing more injuries. 

My god I mean we telegraphed it. If the plan was to rely on Desean and Alshon going in to this year then that itself says it all. That's on Howie entirely.

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'd like someone with a completely fresh outlook. Someone with new ideas that's going to make major changes within the organisation both in terms of coaches and personnel.

I'd like Daniel Jeremiah but that would be a real gamble given he doesn't have any GM experience. 

Did Mike Mayock? He was a great pick by the Raiders. 

2 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Did Mike Mayock? He was a great pick by the Raiders. 

Fair point but that doesn't mean it'll always work out. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Fair point but that doesn't mean it'll always work out. 

DJ like Mayock understands College Talent and knows how to evaluate them better then most others out there. I'd be fine if he was given the GM. To me the GM's job is to draft players and obtain free agents. 

48 minutes ago, Road to Victory said:

Why not John Dorsey? He’s available and is the one who drafted Mahomes, Hill & Kelce. 

Veach found Mahomes.  Dorsey left KC in 2016.  Mahomes was drafted in 2017.  

2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Veach found Mahomes

Not completely. Dorsey was part of it. Here’s a quote from Reid.

Brett Veach was responsible for him,” Reid told Cowherd. "John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him. Brett spent a lot of time with this kid and so he hammered me on watching him and watching him and watching him and watching him, and so, I had couple years worth of film that I was able to watch, and I can’t tell you it’s one play but there were a few, these passes where he’d be running right and looking right and then throwing back left but not all the way to that danger zone but in position where you’d just go, ‘Whoa. That’s something.’ He still has a ton of room to grow for us, but those are the things that got me.”