24 minutes ago, Swoop said:

And there's the issue. He's playing great, certainly, but is he really worth 40/45 million?

I would say no.

I don't think so either but that's now the limit that's been set for new contracts. I think it will ultimately come down to his playoff performance on how close he gets to 40 or more. 

I said elsewhere - maybe in this thread? - that the QB contract market is well overdue a recalibration. Teams will sooner or later realise that more often than not, those mega-contracts leave you too many holes elsewhere

Hurts was good again today. Not amazing. But I’m sold.

11 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Hurts was good again today. Not amazing. But I’m sold.

Ticked another box for me - got it done from behind in the 4th.

Honestly was in "let's wait and see" camp when season started, but the lad is doing well.

Now if we can only see a few snaps under centre 🤔...

Still don't think he's worth what he'll likely ask for, but, he's liking staying beyond this season.

That's not a knock on him, either. I think a generational talent (Mahomes) is worth that. Wouldn't say many, if any others, are.

I don’t think Jalen has had a bad game all season. 

I really like how Jalen has developed. Great to see a game-winning drive. 

I know people really harp on "protecting the ball" and Jalen has been terrific overall so far this season. However, one of my pet peeves will always be seeing a QB hold on to the ball on a 4th down conversion attempt. You simply can't worry about an INT there and have to attempt a catchable pass. A turnover on downs is still a turnover. Part of maturing is understanding what stats don't matter more than a play. 

Of course he more than made up for that play. I just want him to understand that a prayer is better than a concession. 

5 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Still don't think he's worth what he'll likely ask for, but, he's liking staying beyond this season.

That's not a knock on him, either. I think a generational talent (Mahomes) is worth that. Wouldn't say many, if any others, are.

QB contracts are out of control. But Hurts is clear top 10, probably top 5. Hopefully he helps the team out with his contract. But he’s staying. Hopefully the extra picks can help surround him with talent.

5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I don't think so either but that's now the limit that's been set for new contracts. I think it will ultimately come down to his playoff performance on how close he gets to 40 or more. 

I mean in all seriousness, QBs are overpaid. But Hurts is playing great and he’s going to get 40 million plus. I’d rather have him than Murray, Prescott, Watson, Wilson etc.

 

5 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well he is playing like a top 10 QB and the only QB in the top 10 not making 40 mil is Kurt cousins at 35 mil. So he is getting 40 mil at least even at a discount he still probably gets 40. 

Thank God someone else said it because I thought I must be going crazy looking at the current big QB contracts and then this thread saying they hope he doesn't ask for $40million, $40million will be the starting point for negotiations, if they get away with that it'll be a steal.

The cap is based on revenue and with inflation trending the way it is, the sooner we get a deal done at current fair market value, the better it will be in a couple more years. For a QB, being part of a winning team, keeping your character clean and managing your image properly can lead to a lot of endorsement revenue. Aaron Rodgers makes about $9 million a year in endorsements. Mahomes made $20 million in 2021 endorsements. 

Don't break your team and you might actually be more profitable overall.

@brkmsn gets it

Last week he had a chance at a game winning drive and it didn't happen.  Very happy for Jalen to get his first close out drive to win the game.   

10 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Thank God someone else said it because I thought I must be going crazy looking at the current big QB contracts and then this thread saying they hope he doesn't ask for $40million, $40million will be the starting point for negotiations, if they get away with that it'll be a steal.

Yeah I mean it’s kind of ridiculous and to be honest mostly comes from Hurts haters/Hurts sceptics. He’s the best QB in the NFC right now at 24. And people are saying they would be reluctant to give him 40 million a year? Ludicrous. 
 

There are wider points about QB contracts, but can you imagine if we traded Hurts because we didn’t want to give him 40 million? We’d be laughing stocks.

 

 

Not bad.

43 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

I mean in all seriousness, QBs are overpaid. But Hurts is playing great and he’s going to get 40 million plus. I’d rather have him than Murray, Prescott, Watson, Wilson etc.

 

Look at another way - as a percentage of the salary cap.  If the 2023 cap is $218 million, as projected, and top 10 quarterbacks average 15-20% of a teams cap space, Hurts will get a deal in the $35-$40 million a year range with about $160 million guaranteed.  Most of that will be pushed into years 2-4 because he’s still on his rookie contract through next season so they’ll take advantage of that with a large signing bonus that they mostly defer for the next year or two.  Book it.

24 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Yeah I mean it’s kind of ridiculous and to be honest mostly comes from Hurts haters/Hurts sceptics. He’s the best QB in the NFC right now at 24. And people are saying they would be reluctant to give him 40 million a year? Ludicrous. 
 

There are wider points about QB contracts, but can you imagine if we traded Hurts because we didn’t want to give him 40 million? We’d be laughing stocks.

 

 

I wouldn't give most 40/year. Doesn't have anything to do with Hurts specifically. I think paying QBs that much is a good way to completely F over the rest of the roster.

He's going to ask for top money. They all do

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He's going to ask for top money. They all do

It’s unfair to expect them not to, tbh.

Not everybody has the highest paid model in the world as a(n ex) wife, like Brady. And a part of me feels the Pats we’re paying him under the table in some way.

Last year I wanted our HC, DC, and WB out of here. It was so clear he was a running back trying to play QB. I loved his work ethic but I was so done with him it was driving me crazy, work ethic and leadership be damned…

gotta eat crow. He’s been exceptional this year and has been every bit a reason we win and never really a reason we lose this year. He’s the franchise QB and it’s not even debatable.

28 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He's going to ask for top money. They all do

It's not a matter of If but when.   Jalen's getting paid, he's outplayed his contract already.  Look at his total overall numbers over his 29 games.  It's ridiculous.  

30 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I wouldn't give most 40/year. Doesn't have anything to do with Hurts specifically. I think paying QBs that much is a good way to completely F over the rest of the roster.

Okay, so you are the Eagles GM in the off-season. Hurts agent tells you he wants a 6 240 million a year deal with 120 million guaranteed but a reasonable opt out after 3 years and you say no?

42 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Not bad.

 

He needs to be benched as @HazletonEagle called for this game.  

Did he throw for 2 TD passes? I recall the one to Quez but the other was a run right? Not that it matters as they all count for 6.

2 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

Okay, so you are the Eagles GM in the off-season. Hurts agent tells you he wants a 6 240 million a year deal with 120 million guaranteed but a reasonable opt out after 3 years and you say no?

Obviously we likely can't and I acknowledge that.

You don't think QBs making 40+ million a year hurts the rest of the roster?