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15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Due diligence, and draft strategy.

Attach yourself as closely as possible to all of these draft-eligible QBs; it will force the teams who need to trade up for QB to get in front of the Eagles to do so — which forces the best non-QBs in the draft down to #6

If it was any other FO maybe but Lurie and Howie have proven they are not that sharp. 

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2 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

If it was any other FO maybe but Lurie and Howie have proven they are not that sharp. 

I’m not a believer in drafting a QB at #6 because the proper strategy IMO is build the young talent on the roster, then go get the QB.

I will say, though — if there was a football game tomorrow that I had to win, I’d play Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, Fields, and even Mac Jones before I played Hurts.

 

13 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’m not a believer in drafting a QB at #6 because the proper strategy IMO is build the young talent on the roster, then go get the QB.

I will say, though — if there was a football game tomorrow that I had to win, I’d play Lawrence, Wilson, Lance, Fields, and even Mac Jones before I played Hurts.

Sadly I agree. Hurts is a backup in this league at best (hopefully I’m wrong) and I fully understand if they want to do there "due diligence” but this FO just doesn’t inspire confidence to me at all. 
 

Also I don’t think any team is buying anything the Eagles are selling at this point. 

1 hour ago, CaliEagle said:

Agree about Slater. If the Eagles like him, they might trade back a few spots. But, it won't be that far. Starting T's are usually top 10 area.

I don't think slater is an OT, his arms are just too short, I think he projects better at guard or center 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Yup if johnson's ankle is as serious as it sounds then trading dillard isn't smart.

If johnson can't go or is li.ited one moves Mailata over to RT and outs dillard at LT.

Now if Lane is playing and howie decides dillard should start at LT instead if Mailata I think the calls for him to be fired will only grow as it will look like he's trying to make his draft picks look good rather than playing the best player.

I think it's clear to any one with at least one eye that Mailata is the far better prospect than dillard and should be given a shot over dillard at playing 

Silly season once again.

Absoutely ZERO evidence that any OL decision was made by anyone other than Stoutland, including starting Peters.

Is there a football version of Q'anon where you just make up crap and post it on the Internet?

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

Good points. Seems that you’re better off building a team and then adding the QB. To relate back to Hurts, I think he’s plenty good enough to win with a good team around him but not good enough to win without it.

And that is pretty much every QB in the history of the NFL.

I mean does Brady win his first few years without an elite defense, and then a top flight OL and some great weapons in his later years in NE?

I thought he wasn't that great in TB, but he had great talent surrounding him. Brees has always had a top offense in NO.

Now mediocre QBs can have great talent and still not win (Goff), but a number have been able to rise with a team (Foles).

Which is why I'm skeptical of paying $40M to the QB then starving the OL.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Silly season once again.

Absoutely ZERO evidence that any OL decision was made by anyone other than Stoutland, including starting Peters.

Is there a football version of Q'anon where you just make up crap and post it on the Internet?

Well considering there have been .multiple reports about Howie's Influence on roster decisions and pederson being sick of being told what to do all the time and reports from the article released yesterday that some scouts felt howie cared more about his draft picks looking good then playing the best guys I d say it's a little more than a conspiracy theory about politicians eating babies in the basement of of basementless pizza shop🤔

3 hours ago, devpool said:

"Roseman has only two years left on his contract. What if he wants out? What if he wants to go to a team without as much owner interference, and a city where maybe his accomplishments would be appreciated more and each decision was not scrutinized?"

 

I found this part of the Howie article funny. Why on earth would howie ever leave here? No other team would have hung onto him for this long, he is in the perfect situation. No matter what he does he has an owner that won't fire him. 

You build two playoff teams in 8 years and win a SB, you'll be in demand.

There are those who'll always disdain him for not being a "football guy," but there will also be owners tired of hiring football guys and going 2-14 (SF under Chip and Gamble).

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You build two playoff teams in 8 years and win a SB, you'll be in demand.

There are those who'll always disdain him for not being a "football guy," but there will also be owners tired of hiring football guys and going 2-14 (SF under Chip and Gamble).

How about those who disdain him for making absolutely horrible moves? You act like people don't like him just because he isn't a football guy (you are obsessed with that point) and not because he's the main reason this team has been terrible since the super bowl

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Well considering there have been .multiple reports about Howie's Influence on roster decisions and pederson being sick of being told what to do all the time and reports from the article released yesterday that some scouts felt howie cared more about his draft picks looking good then playing the best guys I d say it's a little more than a conspiracy theory about politicians eating babies in the basement of of basementless pizza shop🤔

I wouldn't have respected some of the coaches we've had here the last few years, either.

Mudd and Stoutland were different, they were clearly the best at what they did, and I doubt Howie or anyone else told them what to do.

But you also have to watch sources, Riddick has had an axe to grind with Howie, and also a few others. But I'd note the only guy Howie "pushed out" who did anything since leaving the Eagles was Licht, and it took him 7 years to do what Howie did in 2 years. And a lot of guys have stayed with the organization who are respected and whom have done good jobs.

Now has Howie been overly sensitive toward criticism? Sure. It would be hard not to be, given the crap he took.

The issue with Doug was he was a doofus, after Reich left his game planning and play calling went downhill. Should they have interfered, no. They should have fired him after 2019. Certainly after he refused to hire a real OC. The most important thing a HC does is put together a competent staff, and plans to maintain that staff as people leave.

 

5 minutes ago, devpool said:

How about those who disdain him for making absolutely horrible moves? You act like people don't like him just because he isn't a football guy (you are obsessed with that point) and not because he's the main reason this team has been terrible since the super bowl

9-7, 9-7 despite a plague of injuries, making the playoffs each year and getting to the divisional game the first year, and losing the second year due to a cheap hit?

I'd say half the teams in the NFL would be overjoyed to do that the next two seasons, like Dallas.

They have had one bad season since the SB, which should have been a rebuilding year, and in essence actually was (drafted and signed a lot of young players, 2 comp picks).

 

22-25-1 since the SB. My Howie fathead is in the mail. 

52 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You build two playoff teams in 8 years and win a SB, you'll be in demand.

There are those who'll always disdain him for not being a "football guy," but there will also be owners tired of hiring football guys and going 2-14 (SF under Chip and Gamble).

Who became the GM after Gamble ??

If we're now 10M above the cap with the Brooks restructure, we have two clear moves
- Cut Goodwin
- Extend Barnett

1 minute ago, RLC said:

If we're now 10M above the cap with the Brooks restructure, we have two clear moves
- Cut Goodwin
- Extend Barnett

And cut/trade Ertz. Looking more like a cut at this point.

58 minutes ago, austinfan said:

9-7, 9-7 despite a plague of injuries, making the playoffs each year and getting to the divisional game the first year, and losing the second year due to a cheap hit?

I'd say half the teams in the NFL would be overjoyed to do that the next two seasons, like Dallas.

They have had one bad season since the SB, which should have been a rebuilding year, and in essence actually was (drafted and signed a lot of young players, 2 comp picks).

 

Lol backing into the playoffs two years in a row, then missing the playoffs in the worst division in football. I'm glad you're ok with mediocrity, the rest of us aren't. The teams who would be ok with that are teams who have sucked forever 

1 minute ago, devpool said:

Lol backing into the playoffs two years in a row, then missing the playoffs in the worst division in football. I'm glad you're ok with mediocrity, the rest of us aren't. The teams who would be ok with that are teams who have sucked forever 

I think you live in fantasy land, very few teams are competitive, year in and year out.

Usually they have a 4-5 year run, then reload if they're lucky, rebuild if they're not.

Teams that made the playoffs 10+ times since 2000:

NE (17), Indy (15), GB (15), SEA (14), PIT (13), BAL (13), PHL (13), KC (10), NO (10)

9 teams out of 32. Eagles are tied with BAL and PIT for 5th over that 21 year period.

14 minutes ago, devpool said:

Lol backing into the playoffs two years in a row, then missing the playoffs in the worst division in football. I'm glad you're ok with mediocrity, the rest of us aren't. The teams who would be ok with that are teams who have sucked forever 

This sounds like an Onion article. "Area man vows to keep ranting on a message board until Eagles win NFC championship. 'I am not okay with mediocrity.' "

Eagles couldn’t have won those Championships in 1948, 1949 and 1960 without Howard C Roseman. 

3 hours ago, jwill2420 said:

So the Eagles owner is fully behind Jalen Hurts but everybody in the Eagles FO is at Trey Lance’s pro day? Uh yeah. 

I thought they were only allowed 2 or 3 people per team to attend? 

The Jeff McLane article certainly paints the picture that there is very little leadership at the Nova Care Complex. Disappointing to read.

2 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

The Jeff McLane article certainly paints the picture that there is very little leadership at the Nova Care Complex. Disappointing to read.

Literally the only on the record source in the entire article defended the team, and one of the guys at the center of the article posted a hype video about how excited he is about the coming season two days before the article dropped, which was definitely not a coincidence. For a refresher, here's the tweet.

Lane Johnson on Twitter: "It's that time... 😤 #FlyEaglesFly #PaveTheLane https://t.co/iy4eaPkIXC" / Twitter

In journalism, that's called throwing a pick six.