7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think pick 103 in the draft is not historically a place where you find starters.  I think the odds of finding a starter with a 3rd round pick are usually below average.  Certainly not many rookies are starters.  I think we can hindsight the pick all we want.  However, you can't say with any certainty that there was a player of greater need that was available at that spot they should have or would have taken.  In contrast, they should have taken McLaurin or Metcalf over JJAW.  

They gave up that early 3rd for Slay... and I would have been happy to draft Anfernee Jennings, Jason Phillips, Devin Duvernay, and Malik Harrison over Davion Taylor.

 

Granted, it leaves a hole in the secondary.  But we had Slay, and there was still a hole in the secondary.  Teams with good QBs beat us.  Teams with bad QBs had a shot to beat us.  It was all about whether or not the DL could be disruptive enough.  

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Taylor might work out down the road. However that’s not even a given that he ever gets the chance to start as he’s that much of a project. In the third round i don’t need complete projects. That’s what your late round picks are for. 

also saying there was no other position out there that couldve helped this year is a complete BS spin job. Yes there was at other positions like oline so you don’t have to play guys like opeta, brown and pryor. Or corner so you didn’t just hand maddox who’s been awful the job. 

agree on the hurts and Qb topic. 

We drafted Driscoll and found Herbig and that still wasn't enough, sometimes you just have bad luck.

You don't draft to fill this year's holes, you draft for 2-3 years down the road for the most part. Sometimes you get lucky (Kelce), most times you don't.

Just now, austinfan said:

Point is don't overrate the draft, you can build quickly in the NFL with the right FAs, SFAs, UDFAs and draft picks, it's not the picks you miss that matter, but the ones on which you hit.

 

And when you are $70M over the cap...what avenue is there to find talent?  

 

And please identify actual "hits" by Howie since the Super Bowl.  You can include draft picks, trades and free agents.   Its a short list.

 

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

We drafted Driscoll and found Herbig and that still wasn't enough, sometimes you just have bad luck.

You don't draft to fill this year's holes, you draft for 2-3 years down the road for the most part. Sometimes you get lucky (Kelce), most times you don't.

Sometimes you create your own bad luck with bad draft selections that were obvious bad selections from the get go  

And no crap about down the road. Omg what a concept you draft someone that does both today and the future in the third round. No way that’s possible. 

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

And when you are $70M over the cap...what avenue is there to find talent?  

 

And please identify actual "hits" by Howie since the Super Bowl.  You can include draft picks, trades and free agents.   Its a short list.

Not only that he chooses the three teams with the three qbs competing for the mvp award. That tends to help and cover up some deficiencies with the roster. 

4 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

 

Is that the big change?  LOL   1 of the 37 advisors ? 

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

Just saw that myself. Not a huge surprise as this offense hasn't looked this bad in years. Offensive staff needs a big overhaul. Hopefully this is only the first move.

14 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

Whoa, major staff changes! The guy who had no defined role besides presnap motion which we barely used at all is gone. Offense is saved.

Just an FYI this team makes it really hard for me to continue to root for them. 

Over the years:

Buddyball- Great fun at times with no real accolades to show for it. No real offensive plan Best thing about this era- Beating Dallas

Kotite era- I should have laminated the chart from 7-2 to 7-9 Best thing about this era- BUD CARSON

Ray's world - short lived tough talk success. Best thing about this era- Rodney Peete's led eagles smashing the Lions in the playoffs.  The fire quickly died out. 

Reid/McNabb ERA- better years were early years, AR stayed too long , wore out his welcome.  Juan Castillo as D Coordinator. Best thing about this Winning 1 out of 5 NFCCG's Yes, thats a 20%  success rate. Reid should have been gone after 2009. All that being said we had 4 years straight of winning seasons. (I think)

Chip Kelly- fluky- gimmicky- amazing he couldn't adapt to the NFL. Best thing about this era -(Big D) Nick Foles 27-2.  Not even really shortlived success.

Howie & Dougy- Emotional intelligence - starts off good-great Wentz was a MVP candidate, gets lucky Won the SB. Then craps the bed, destroys franchise QB obvious best thing in this era was SB win.  what we had 3 years straight of making the playoffs? 

Other than Reids first few years, we have not been the pillar of stable success, and can not compare to teams like Steelers, Pats, Saints, Packers etc.... 

Over all these years we have never drafted consistently well. We hit on a few once and a while, but nothing in comparison to the better teams of the league, and I surmise it is the lack of ability to hit on a higher % of draft picks that continues to hurt us the most. 

 

 

At least we aren't the Browns, Bengals, Jags, or Dolphins. So I guess it could be worse

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Whoa, major staff changes!

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not only that he chooses the three teams with the three qbs competing for the mvp award. That tends to help and cover up some deficiencies with the roster. 

Thats Howie... err, afan.  

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Thats Howie... err, afan.  

I refer to him as Dave. He nails the spadaro like spins 

16 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

 

2 years ago to the day this happened 

 

24 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

 

Wasn't there more of them?

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I refer to him as Dave. He nails the spadaro like spins 

afan's been overvaluing our roster for decades now!  I still remember well the long glowing commentaries about the importance of Riley Cooper... as a blocker.  JJAW's got nothing on Riley.

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If 3 quarterbacks, Sewell and chase are all off the board ans im forced to pick at 6 without trading out in likely taking surtain at the moment. Then again also kind of depends on what the heck happens at QB. 

Worst case scenario in my book would be, the top two QB's, Sewell and both receivers being off the board by 6 and no team enamored with the the rest of the QB field to jump up to 6 

4 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Worst case scenario in my book would be, the top two QB's, Sewell and both receivers being off the board by 6 and no team enamored with the the rest of the QB field to jump up to 6 

I really don’t rule out the eagles taking a QB depending on what happens with the wentz situation. 

Even if they trade wentz and think hurts is the future, they probably still take a QB in the second cause you know they need a cheap backup. 

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wasn't there more of them?

Yes, we hired about 14 different Rich Scangarellos. Scangarello #11 was let go today. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

afan's been overvaluing our roster for decades now!  I still remember well the long glowing commentaries about the importance of Riley Cooper... as a blocker.  JJAW's got nothing on Riley.

I remember when Riley Cooper was better than Dez Bryant.

He was almost on to something though. Riley was seemign to come in to his own and then he had to get racial and ruin his career. 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

And the point would be what? No pick would have made a difference this season.

Most years it's your 2nd and 3rd year players who are the key to success, not rookies.

If Taylor and Bradley join Edwards and Singleton to make this an above average group next season, the draft was a great success, if they're cut by year 3, it's a failure.

And what backup QB that could actually play could they have taken instead of Hurts, the next Thorson? Eason #122, Morgan #125, Fromm #167, never took a snap and may never take a snap.

How are they doing? How many are even left?

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I remember when Riley Cooper was better than Dez Bryant.

He was almost on to something though. Riley was seemign to come in to his own and then he had to get racial and ruin his career. 

Nah... Riley's breakout season came on the heels of that.  He did it in the training camp before Chip's first season, and he was part of Foles' 27-2 season.

22 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

afan's been overvaluing our roster for decades now!  I still remember well the long glowing commentaries about the importance of Riley Cooper... as a blocker.  JJAW's got nothing on Riley.

Don't forget Jeremy Bloom!

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yes, we hired about 14 different Rich Scangarellos. Scangarello #11 was let go today. 

Damn i liked 11. #2 was the crappy one.