2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The days of the blind side are over, as many top pass rushers line up over the RT, and Mailata also brings a physicality to run plays to the strong side (especially next to Brooks).

Now if Lane's ankle wasn't a concern, I'd think about trading Dillard, but I think Lane is on borrowed time. And Driscoll is better suited to guard.

 

You think Lane is on borrowed time but Brooks isn't? 

 

There is no future on this team for Dillard except purely as a backup to Mailata at LT.  But that is on the salary of a 1dt round pick so if the Eagles can get a 3rd or 4th for Dillard they would be wise to take it. You can get what Dillard is going to get you if you're the Eagles later in the draft.  

13 minutes ago, austinfan said:

But there are no substantive rumors this year, just a reporter speculating you could throw him into a Wentz deal to get a 1st. That's throwing crap.

A real rumor is some other team reporting that he's being shopped around and the Eagles are looking for a high 2nd or low 2nd and another pick. Haven't seen that.

Now Ertz is different, everyone knows he's going to be shopped, one year left, team is rebuilding. Howie would be happy to get a late 3rd or 4th rd pick.

On the other hand, you don't hear anything about Graham or Slay, because they're not being shopped, however, if someone calls with an offer Howie can't refuse . . .

There was like 5-6 reporters last year entering and during draft night and even other team beat reporter stating they were shopping him. You can deny it but there was like 5-6 days of discussion on the blog cause of multiple reporters and some not associated with the eagles stating it. Even the nfl network had it out there the first and i am pretty sure the second night as well. Again spin anyway you want it 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

You think Lane is on borrowed time but Brooks isn't?

There is no future on this team for Dillard except purely as a backup to Mailata at LT.  But that is on the salary of a 1dt round pick so if the Eagles can get a 3rd or 4th for Dillard they would be wise to take it. You can get what Dillard is going to get you if you're the Eagles later in the draft.  

Lane's ankle may be a degenerative condition, we'll find out in camp.

Brooks was already doing 32" vertical jumps at 340 months ago, he's an incredible athlete (Mailata level) with an off the chart work ethic.

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/13/brandon-brooks-achilles-rehab-ahead-of-schedule/

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-activate-21-day-practice-windows-for-brandon-brooks-davion-taylor

Afan, you should charge Howie a retainer.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You think Lane is on borrowed time but Brooks isn't? 

 

There is no future on this team for Dillard except purely as a backup to Mailata at LT.  But that is on the salary of a 1dt round pick so if the Eagles can get a 3rd or 4th for Dillard they would be wise to take it. You can get what Dillard is going to get you if you're the Eagles later in the draft.  

You and I have disagreed about most things on the old EMB, but Mailata is one thing we agree on.  His ceiling is higher than Dillard's.  For one thing, Mailata could play either OT spot if he had to where Dillard can only play LT.  That disaster of him playing RT that one game showed us as much.  Mailata's physical ability is better and I think his mental makeup is as well.  Football isn't even Dillard's first choice of a sport as there was an article that quoted him saying basketball was his first love.  Mailata sacrificed to take a long shot chance to learn to play this game because he wants better for himself and his family.  And I like seeing a bit of Runyan in him when he falls on top of DL players and pins them to the ground after blocking them or the way when he gets to the 2nd level and just tosses LBs/DBs like they're peewee players (imagine being a 190lb DB and seeing this huge powerful dude running at your full force).  And how he is usually the first to help up his own RBs and QB.  Sure, he's not perfect and still has flaws he needs to work on, but considering he's never played ANY game of football until this season and he was a top half LT that speaks volumes.  He outplayed over half the LTs in the league who have been playing for years.  That's F'ing amazing.  And he has more room to grow and get better than any of them.  That's F'ing scary.  Good for us, scary for the rest of the NFL.  They need to extend him.

And they'd better get more than a 3rd/4th for Dillard should they decide to trade him.  There's still enough teams desperate for a LT that if they don't get better than a mid round pick for him then Howie should be fired on the spot.  It just takes 1 team out of 31 to either pay fair value or overpay.  Just need to find the sucker at the table and there should be at least one.

 

15 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Lane's ankle may be a degenerative condition, we'll find out in camp.

Brooks was already doing 32" vertical jumps at 340 months ago, he's an incredible athlete (Mailata level) with an off the chart work ethic.

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/13/brandon-brooks-achilles-rehab-ahead-of-schedule/

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-activate-21-day-practice-windows-for-brandon-brooks-davion-taylor

 

Brooks is an incredible athlete but he is starting to stack some serious injuries to come back from at what will be 32 years old to start the season. 

5 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

You and I have disagreed about most things on the old EMB, but Mailata is one thing we agree on.  His ceiling is higher than Dillard's.  For one thing, Mailata could play either OT spot if he had to where Dillard can only play LT.  That disaster of him playing RT that one game showed us as much.  Mailata's physical ability is better and I think his mental makeup is as well.  Football isn't even Dillard's first choice of a sport as there was an article that quoted him saying basketball was his first love.  Mailata sacrificed to take a long shot chance to learn to play this game because he wants better for himself and his family.  And I like seeing a bit of Runyan in him when he falls on top of DL players and pins them to the ground after blocking them or the way when he gets to the 2nd level and just tosses LBs/DBs like they're peewee players (imagine being a 190lb DB and seeing this huge powerful dude running at your full force).  And how he is usually the first to help up his own RBs and QB.  Sure, he's not perfect and still has flaws he needs to work on, but considering he's never played ANY game of football until this season and he was a top half LT that speaks volumes.  He outplayed over half the LTs in the league who have been playing for years.  That's F'ing amazing.  And he has more room to grow and get better than any of them.  That's F'ing scary.  Good for us, scary for the rest of the NFL.  They need to extend him.

And they'd better get more than a 3rd/4th for Dillard should they decide to trade him.  There's still enough teams desperate for a LT that if they don't get better than a mid round pick for him then Howie should be fired on the spot.  It just takes 1 team out of 31 to either pay fair value or overpay.  Just need to find the sucker at the table and there should be at least one.

 

 

Gotta be realistic about his trade value.  Already heading into the 3rd year of his deal and coming off a serious injury.  3rd or 4th likely is fair value.  If someone wants to pay more then sure but I don't think they will.  Also don't think Ertz can pull higher than a 4th at this point so Eagles could be trying to package those two as some rumors suggest to get a single high 3rd or 2nd rounder. 

With Howie likely heading towards shedding a lot of weight and accumulating various picks in the draft this offseason it would seem like he is potentially maneuvering for a trade up to #2 or #3 for a QB.  Lotta similar dumping of players in trades that 2016 offseason before they traded up for Wentz. 

37 minutes ago, austinfan said:

The days of the blind side are over, as many top pass rushers line up over the RT, and Mailata also brings a physicality to run plays to the strong side (especially next to Brooks).

Now if Lane's ankle wasn't a concern, I'd think about trading Dillard, but I think Lane is on borrowed time. And Driscoll is better suited to guard.

I very much agree with that.  I’d support LT/RT Dillard/Mailata.

But I believe in the whispers as this point.  Dillard’s name was dragged through the mud last offseason and now he’s back churning through the trade rumor mill.  So I don’t think the Eagles intend to give him a look there.

I don't like Lane's chances of staying healthy, but I have more faith in that than I do Mailata or Dillard being a long term solution at tackle. Dillard has yet to show he has the strength to play tackle in the NFL. Mailata is still very raw and gets beat quickly too many times.

Speaking of Mailata, this off season might be a good time as any to get him extended.  He's a free agent after next season. 

12 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Speaking of Mailata, this off season might be a good time as any to get him extended.  He's a free agent after next season. 

We have 3 obvious extension candidates: Mailata, Sweat and Goedert. I think we should extend all of them. 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

We have 3 obvious extension candidates: Mailata, Sweat and Goedert. I think we should extend all of them. 

They have to extend or release Barnett

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

They have to extend or release Barnett

I meant from the 2018 class, but your point is valid.

IMO, Barnett is a straight-forward trade candidate if we can get under the cap without extending him.

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

From what I recall they didn’t actually push any money into future years with those 2, just lowered their base to the minimum. Saints just did something similar with Brees. I could be wrong on that thought. 

Well, I sure hope so.   Not sure what incentive the player would have for something like that though.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

We have 3 obvious extension candidates: Mailata, Sweat and Goedert. I think we should extend all of them. 

Extending people prematurely got us burnt in the first place.   Aside from the probability that we simply can’t afford to extend them, their value right now is in a transitional zone.

Sweat...he has injury issues.  If that knee goes bad next year, he’s worth 0 and we are on the hook for millions.  Let him play out the year.

Mailata...is he a franchise LT?  Is he a backup?  Is he an average starter?  What’s up with his back?  If you pay him as the talented, promising unknown that he is...one option is that he struggles and gets hurt, and you’re burnt.  Another option is that he turns into a stud probowl LT...and he’s probably going to be disgruntled getting paid like a premium backup.

Goedert...can he stay healthy?  What numbers will he put up as the guy?

just let these guys play out the last year.  Think about how much better cap shape we’d be in right now if Brooks, Lane, Alshon were just allowed to play through their last year under contract.  

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, I sure hope so.   Not sure what incentive the player would have for something like that though.

There isn’t really an incentive but they aren’t losing out on anything either. And it’s what Spotrac is showing at least. Maybe they are just throwing Howie a bone for giving them terrible, over compensated contracts. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There isn’t really an incentive but they aren’t losing out on anything either. And it’s what Spotrac is showing at least. Maybe they are just throwing Howie a bone for giving them terrible, over compensated contracts. 

They are just a pair of humanitarians.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Brooks is an incredible athlete but he is starting to stack some serious injuries to come back from at what will be 32 years old to start the season. 

The best thing Brooks could do now is take Herbig under his wing and help him train to be and NFL player.  I think Herbig has a ton of potential, not to be an All-Pro or anything but just one of those steady players you don't worry about.  He just looks like a sloppy SOB out there.  Let him do some hand combat training with Brooks, learn the ins and outs of guard in the NFL from him and I'm happy.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

The best thing Brooks could do now is take Herbig under his wing and help him train to be and NFL player.  I think Herbig has a ton of potential, not to be an All-Pro or anything but just one of those steady players you don't worry about.  He just looks like a sloppy SOB out there.  Let him do some hand combat training with Brooks, learn the ins and outs of guard in the NFL from him and I'm happy.

Have him do some Muay Thai and lose a layer of fat while we’re at it 

26 minutes ago, RLC said:

We have 3 obvious extension candidates: Mailata, Sweat and Goedert. I think we should extend all of them. 

I've also posted numerous times on here and some will grill me but I would much rather trade DG before he gets extended.  His trade value in the last year of his contract is going to be the highest. 

Look at Buffalo.  You think Josh Allen couldn't use a stud tight end?  Green Bay is set to either pay for Robert Tonyan, who had a huge year with 11 TDs or they could look to kick the can, trade for DG and not pay him for a year.

I just think spending top dollar on a tight end right now isn't the smartest thing.  The Eagles have also shown they can scout tight ends really well.  They suck at scouting CB.  Pay for a FA corner and draft a tight end.

Atlanta sent 55 (2nd round) and 157 (5th round) to Baltimore for Hurst and 134 (4th round).  Hurst was 26 when the trade happened, DG just turned 26 in January. 

Dallas Goedert     137 receptions 1465 yards   12 TD

Hayden Hurst         99 receptions   1083 yards   9 TD

I really think you can get a better return for DG, maybe a 2nd and a 4th.

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Have him do some Muay Thai and lose a layer of fat while we’re at it 

That's what I'm implying.  He looks gross out there.

48 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I've also posted numerous times on here and some will grill me but I would much rather trade DG before he gets extended.  His trade value in the last year of his contract is going to be the highest. 

Look at Buffalo.  You think Josh Allen couldn't use a stud tight end?  Green Bay is set to either pay for Robert Tonyan, who had a huge year with 11 TDs or they could look to kick the can, trade for DG and not pay him for a year.

I just think spending top dollar on a tight end right now isn't the smartest thing.  The Eagles have also shown they can scout tight ends really well.  They suck at scouting CB.  Pay for a FA corner and draft a tight end.

Atlanta sent 55 (2nd round) and 157 (5th round) to Baltimore for Hurst and 134 (4th round).  Hurst was 26 when the trade happened, DG just turned 26 in January. 

Dallas Goedert     137 receptions 1465 yards   12 TD

Hayden Hurst         99 receptions   1083 yards   9 TD

I really think you can get a better return for DG, maybe a 2nd and a 4th.

I think we may have discussed this before.  Goedert’s trade value looks good with Hurst as the benchmark, but I also think that was a really bad trade...and we may not find a similar sucker.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

The best thing Brooks could do now is take Herbig under his wing and help him train to be and NFL player.  I think Herbig has a ton of potential, not to be an All-Pro or anything but just one of those steady players you don't worry about.  He just looks like a sloppy SOB out there.  Let him do some hand combat training with Brooks, learn the ins and outs of guard in the NFL from him and I'm happy.

A lot of people describe Seumalo as one of those steady players you don’t worry about (although I’d argue we have to worry about him more than anyone on the blog has been willing to admit).  
 

With Kelce shifting towards past tense and Seumalo entrenched as whatever it is we want to call him, I think our 3rd IOL might need to be a higher end guy.  Not sure if Driscoll is up for being a 16 game player or for that distinction, ideally he can be.

Seriously, trade Goedert. Ertz is gone. Rodgers is a UFA.  Perkins is barely worth a roster spot. I do believe we get one TE out of our FA pickups but probably not more. Indy had four. I think we need TEs In Sirianni’s offense. Why trade a true TE in the year we trade Ertz.  Sorry but that seems nonsensical to me.  I mean worse than Howie nonsensical.