3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It wouldn't be a reach for Trask at #6, it would be a word that's not even invented yet. 

Yeah, I have Trask going in the 3rd round or later.  But since there's pretty much no one else between him and the top 5-6 QB's you might have a team reach for him in the 2nd round.  That said, I do like him as a backup/developmental QB.  

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

So what free agents can the Eagles afford? It’s kind of funny that there is zero discussion of free agency in the blog because of obvious reasons. 

No point discussing it without even knowing where the cap is set yet.  Once Howie is done purging and restructuring contracts we’ll have to see where the numbers shake out.

In all likelihood the Eagles either sit out FA entirely, or go clearance bin shopping (ie: LB or RB price point)

18 minutes ago, What The F said:

Trade Wentz for a 2nd

Draft Pitts with #6

Draft BPA with both 2nds, and 3rd

Draft Trask with 4th

Genard Avery is your 4th.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

An Eagles fan called into Bob Papa and Charlie Weis this morning and asked if the Eagles will draft a QB.  Weis replied "They’re going to take Kyle Pitts, and Eagles fans will be very happy they did.  He’s the best TE to come out in an awfully long time”

Looks like you’re gonna have to come to terms with it; it’s a foregone conclusion now. 😂

I doubt Pitts will go before the 12th or so (possibly as late as 15th-20th) so if they go that route, they'd better trade down and accumulate a few more picks.

 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

No point discussing it without even knowing where the cap is set yet.  Once Howie is done purging and restructuring contracts we’ll have to see where the numbers shake out.

In all likelihood the Eagles either sit out FA entirely, or go clearance bin shopping (ie: LB or RB price point)

So just like any normal Eagles free agency

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

First of all, they’re not letting Wentz pick his trade destination, dude.  JFC 

The issue as has been reported is that the Bears will not make an offer if Wentz is not on board.  If he doesn't want them, they don't want him.  He is a reclamation project.  They have his QB coach from 2017.  If he isn't going to buy in to Chicago, they can't and shouldn't take the risk of trading for him.

In that respect, Wentz does have leverage, and it is more likely than not he is using it right now to get what he wants.

36 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The less obvious worrisome thing in that tweet is the eagles draft a qb at 6th. Not that they draft one. If you love one then by all means. but the fact they legitimately could wind up drafting a QB just to draft one cause you need a franchise QB and not because they actually love the kid but talk themselves into it. 

The more I have thought about it, the more this seems likely to me.

Would much prefer the Eagles take the best available player at 6, whether that be Sewell or one of the WRs, or even someone else.  But that's no longer what I think they are going to do.  I think they are going to take another sub-optimal QB prospect for the Factory.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

No point discussing it without even knowing where the cap is set yet.  Once Howie is done purging and restructuring contracts we’ll have to see where the numbers shake out.

In all likelihood the Eagles either sit out FA entirely, or go clearance bin shopping (ie: LB or RB price point)

Howie is going to have to get his ST only LB on Day 2 of FA that they will just end up cutting in September. 

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

So what free agents can the Eagles afford? It’s kind of funny that there is zero discussion of free agency in the blog because of obvious reasons. 

Free agents would seem like a waste of time for a team in this position.  They have no cap room anyway, but if they did they should be looking at young players or the potential to pay top of market for cornerstone type players entering their primes.  The B level and C level veteran adds have little value to a team in a rebuild...

Eagles will skip FAs b/c they'd like to accumulate more comp picks for the 2022 draft, and they can't afford starters in their prime years.

They'll go bargain basement hunting, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, you can find reclamation projects that outperform a lot of big money FAs.

Any call on a QB will be driven by Sirianni, you don't draft a QB that your new HC doesn't think he can develop into a top starter.

I have a lot more confidence in Sirianni than Doug when it comes to QBs, Foles is his only success story, Wentz regressed and Sudfeld never developed.

Doug as QB coach, Vick's best year was 2010, Doug was coach in 2011-12, Foles had a decent rookie season under him.

Doug as OC:  Smith actually played better in SF than his first year under Doug as OC, then improved the next two seasons.

4 minutes ago, John_C said:

The issue as has been reported is that the Bears will not make an offer if Wentz is not on board.  If he doesn't want them, they don't want him.  He is a reclamation project.  They have his QB coach from 2017.  If he isn't going to buy in to Chicago, they can't and shouldn't take the risk of trading for him.

In that respect, Wentz does have leverage, and it is more likely than not he is using it right now to get what he wants.

Can’t have it both ways.  Either Wentz wants out, or the Eagles have decided to move him.

If Wentz is dictating he won’t come back, the organization would owe him no favors.  He’s in no position to dictate ‘I don’t want to play there’ or ‘I’ll only play there’.  He’s 28, entering the first year of a 4-year mega contract — he’s not sitting out.

If Wentz wishes to return but the team has decided to move on, then they might consider a preferred destination for him — but it won’t affect what they will demand in trade compensation, and in the end will deal him to the highest bidder.   Either way, Wentz doesn’t have a no-trade clause and gets no input into where he’s dealt.  He’s also not in a position to sit out or refuse to report, so he will go play for whichever team trades for him.

You’re feeding off of the false narrative that Wentz is a malcontent.  Nothing in his actions or words should lead anyone to believe that.  It’s been quite the opposite.

58 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Yeah, we should have kept Riddick over him, look at his success, or Grigson or . . . nevermind.

Yeah, cause making a total change at GM and the front office would have been out of the question. 

26 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It wouldn't be a reach for Trask at #6, it would be a word that's not even invented yet. 

Oh, I can think of a few.

55 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

The argument to your first point is that this is the weakest top heavy draft in ages and that the talent between 5 and 20/30/40 (pick a number) is pretty much the same.  There are no 'game changing' studs this year.  Your 2nd and 3rd points, I think there's only 1 poster here who would argue that.  Howie will try to prove he is the smartest guy in the room and blow the pick/s.  And not only is trading down this year a good option due to the lack of top end talent, but also because we need many positions filled with young quality talent because.....Howie.

 

Yeah, and to your last point, again....Howie is making the picks. I'll roll the dice with one of the WR than trade back and totally blow the pick like you said on him trying to be the smartest guy in the room. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Read the 15 posts I have made about it.  It’s wise because we need a ish ton of young talent.  Not a wide receiver at 6.  But hey why even have any discussion about the draft if Howie is going to blow it anyway? 

I read them. Yeah, they need a ton of young talent, but Howie is the Eddie Mush of mid round picks. His horrible drafting put them in this spot, but I guess giving him more picks in each round reduces the chances of him blowing them all? Maybe. Another GM and I'd totally support it. 

11 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Eagles will skip FAs b/c they'd like to accumulate more comp picks for the 2022 draft, and they can't afford starters in their prime years.

They'll go bargain basement hunting, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, you can find reclamation projects that outperform a lot of big money FAs.

Any call on a QB will be driven by Sirianni, you don't draft a QB that your new HC doesn't think he can develop into a top starter.

I have a lot more confidence in Sirianni than Doug when it comes to QBs, Foles is his only success story, Wentz regressed and Sudfeld never developed.

Doug as QB coach, Vick's best year was 2010, Doug was coach in 2011-12, Foles had a decent rookie season under him.

Doug as OC:  Smith actually played better in SF than his first year under Doug as OC, then improved the next two seasons.

The Eagles don't have any FA to lose who would even bring back a comp pick so this is flawed thought process, even if they could afford to bring players in.

31 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

In a normal year, you could have a point but this year's draft is unusual in the sense that you might get "just as much or better" talent at 20 than you would get at 6.  It's a different year and add the fact that there is no combine, the first 20-30 or so picks really are a crap shoot, imo.

People have used that argument for a few different positions the last few years and somehow Howie has missed on them all going back to the RB draft a few years ago. My problem isn't with the idea of trading back. It's with the guy making the picks. 

I can believe this. This is probably why the Eagles haven’t traded Wentz to Bears. Also I believe once Wentz is gone Eagles do indeed take a QB at 6. 

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Eagles will skip FAs b/c they'd like to accumulate more comp picks for the 2022 draft, and they can't afford starters in their prime years.

 

With what free agents from the Eagles roster?

14 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Eagles will skip FAs b/c they'd like to accumulate more comp picks for the 2022 draft, and they can't afford starters in their prime years.

They'll go bargain basement hunting, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, you can find reclamation projects that outperform a lot of big money FAs.

Any call on a QB will be driven by Sirianni, you don't draft a QB that your new HC doesn't think he can develop into a top starter.

I have a lot more confidence in Sirianni than Doug when it comes to QBs, Foles is his only success story, Wentz regressed and Sudfeld never developed.

Doug as QB coach, Vick's best year was 2010, Doug was coach in 2011-12, Foles had a decent rookie season under him.

Doug as OC:  Smith actually played better in SF than his first year under Doug as OC, then improved the next two seasons.

Comp picks for which Eagles FAs? We don’t have any 😂 

I'm an equipment nerd.  This is really interesting and pretty cool from VICIS.  Lineman specific helmet.  VICIS is the #1 rated helmet on the market yet barely any players wear them.  If the NFL was THAT serious about preventing concussions you would think they sign a deal with VICIS rather than RIDDELL to outfit players in their helmets.  Even Schutt (who now owns VICIS) helmets are rated higher than RIDDELL.  If any Eagles lineman opt to go with this helmet the equipment manager is going to have a heckuva time getting those wings on.

 

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

With what free agents from the Eagles roster?

Ertz?

11 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

I can believe this. This is probably why the Eagles haven’t traded Wentz to Bears. Also I believe once Wentz is gone Eagles do indeed take a QB at 6. 

This is very believable, given Wentz's personality.

Watson's agent publicly asked for a trade. Wentz could easily do the same thing. Or he could say "I want to be an Eagle".

8 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

Ertz?

he's not a FA.

1 hour ago, Penn7980 said:

Hurts working out with WRs and Wentz is silent on that front, tells you about Wentz's attitude towards the coming season.  He may have already checked out from the team.  If his heart and mind are not here, there is no reason to keep him around.

We don't even know if it's true or not. With the amount of false reports that are coming out lol

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

he's not a FA.

If he is cut he is......