37 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Nagy is the exact same system/style as Doug. 

Wentz biggest success was when Frank took over game planning, scripting etc in Philly. If you are Wentz do you want to go to a system that you had your best success or back to the same system you ran the last 3 years that didnt work well under Doug? It's a no brainier that Indy is the best situation for Wentz if hes traded. 

Or Philly since the Eagles just hired the guy working as OC with Reich. I suspect that is in the conversation with Wentz’s agent as Howie works to restructure his contract for cap relief. 

2 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I normally am on the same page with you, BUT I think they wont go QB in this draft at 6. "if" they do, you cant keep Hurts on this team or your in just as bad a situation your in now. He would have to get traded. If Wentz is traded, they have to either go Hurts for at least a year or trade him as well. 

We're talking Howie here

1 minute ago, Infam said:

Yeah, the backup of Hurts is Scott. But of course that has nothing to do with that. Sure.

Not a single person here thought it did but YOU. That shows your agenda. So either leave that crap at the door or Im sure you will be added to a lot of ignore lists. that crap does not belong here. 

2 minutes ago, John_C said:

One team interested = market exists.  Two teams interested = decent market exists, especially for that position.  Potential for a "bidding war."

Also depends on your definition of a "low offer" - what the Colts reportedly offered was right in the middle of what my expected return for Wentz was before trading him was even discussed.  So no surprises for me there.

Wentz isn't traded yet because trading him is a huge hit to the credibility of Lowie.  There is no way for them to spin it, it's a complete failure and disaster in every respect.  They will explore every avenue multiple times to maximize the return.  I just hope they don't miss the market entirely through their actions.

 

The Eagles are all in on trading Wentz.  The reason they haven't is because the return of any trade is going to be embarrassingly low.  There aren't teams knocking down the Eagles door to get Wentz like they were for Stafford. 

Just now, DeathByEagle said:

Not a single person here thought it did but YOU. That shows your agenda. So either leave that crap at the door or Im sure you will be added to a lot of ignore lists. that crap does not belong here. 

If this was a one time thing, I'd believe it. If the same kind of garbage is repeated every time for every black QB, it's racist.

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

Yeah, the backup of Hurts is Scott. But of course that has nothing to do with that. Sure.

Because he runs he makes 1 read and runs. Running back (Boston Scott).  Not sure why you would even jump to race at all. Tebow was the same type of qb didn't want him either.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

You think a 51ish % QB is accurate and has a NFL arm lol? He's also 37% on balls over 15 yards. LOL

Sure man, you're right. The greatest college football coach ever is wrong, but you're right lol 

Yeah, well. I still am right, and completely confident he's going to prove it. 

Like I said, thankfully time will tell on this one. 

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

If this was a one time thing, I'd believe it. If the same kind of garbage is repeated every time for every black QB, it's racist.

Nope, but thanks for trying to justify your racism.

Just now, greend said:

We're talking Howie here

Exactly.  Lowie is indeed a cluster of two bumbling idiots orbiting each other, sucking in bits and pieces of scouting info and coachspeak, and playing games with a professional football team.

The current Lowie programming with regard to the QB position, along with the state of the team post trading their highly paid "franchise" QB, will make it close to impossible for them to avoid selecting a QB in this current situation at the 6th overall pick of the draft.  Additional warning, mortgaging precious future resources to trade UP is also not out of the question.  I've come to this conclusion.  This is by far the most likely scenario.

I highly doubt we will be excited with who they select.

Just trying to prepare people for what is most likely to happen.

 

Just now, greend said:

Nope, but thanks for trying to justify your racism.

So glad it's just in my head, and no problem anymore in the US since the 70s. 🥱

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

The Eagles are all in on trading Wentz.  The reason they haven't is because the return of any trade is going to be embarrassingly low.  There aren't teams knocking down the Eagles door to get Wentz like they were for Stafford. 

Agree?  The return will be "embarrassing" for them as will the trade.  And yes, Stafford had a much higher market value than Wentz.

But he will be traded, IMO still an outside shot at the Birds getting a first, otherwise expect a 2nd and a day 2 pick the next year.

3 minutes ago, Infam said:

If this was a one time thing, I'd believe it. If the same kind of garbage is repeated every time for every black QB, it's racist.

Not in here.  I would suggest you drop that conversation or you will find yourself in discussion with yourself.   

14 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

got it, so every college scout and pro team is an agreement with me( I agree with them actually) but your right. 

Go it. 

Hurts cant make a 12-15 yard out. He cant hit deep crosser in stride

His throwing power is similar to Chad Pennington. BUT BUT HE's EXCITING TO WATCH AND CAN RUN. 

WGAF

 

Hits Greg Ward in stride in the corner of the endzone, ball going 45 yards in the air. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hurts hits DeSean on a deep crosser down the field in stride.  Ball travels 50 yards in the air. 

 

 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Not in here.  I would suggest you drop that conversation or you will find yourself in discussion with yourself.   

Too late for me

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

When you think a black QB is better then a white QB with literally no facts(actually most facts tell you you're wrong)

It's also racist. 

Ya, cause your racist. 

Never thought id agree wit Bacarty for once..but...ya imma say it.

That is a racist comment. - Thinking a QB is better because he is black is a step in the wrong direction.

I am not white either. And I still think that is racist.

 

38 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Any mention of Bruce Arians is hereby banned from the blog.  

Dont be  hater , because they won another superbowl. 

2 minutes ago, John_C said:

Agree?  The return will be "embarrassing" for them as will the trade.  And yes, Stafford had a much higher market value than Wentz.

But he will be traded, IMO still an outside shot at the Birds getting a first, otherwise expect a 2nd and a day 2 pick the next year.

 

It will be embarrassing in the return due to the lack of a market for him.  He's 28 years old and locked up long term.  If he had any value whatsoever teams would be tripping over themselves to throw multiple first round licks to get him. 

15 minutes ago, Infam said:

How am I racist for pointing out that whenever a QB is black people doubt he can be a QB and say he should better play at RB?

This is very real, no matter how hard you try to ignore it.

Not racist, but stupid.

Just now, Sturm said:

Never thought id agree wit Bacarty for once..but...ya imma say it.

That is a racist comment. - Thinking a QB is better because he is black is a step in the wrong direction.

I am not white either. And I still think that is racist.

Where did I say that? Just because I think Hurts is great it has to be because of the color of his skin?

4 minutes ago, Infam said:

So glad it's just in my head, and no problem anymore in the US since the 70s. 🥱

There are different ways to handle the problem.

There is the right way and there is the wrong way. This is clearly the wrong way.

 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Cool,. 2 throws that most college kids make on there pro day. 

If you think he has the power and accuracy to throw deep crossers and long out routes your sorely mistaken. 

If he had no arm strength, like you claim, he shouldn't throw it like that ever.

1 hour ago, greend said:

My personal belief is he will win us some games because he runs. I worry that we fall in love with that style and stick with it as a mediocre playoff team for years

Ravens are stuck as a team that might win a playoff game, but nothing else.  And Lamar Jackson is 10x the player Hurts is.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

Touve mentioned hes better then Wentz(with no facts and stats tell you other wise)

youve said everyones wrong about him. 

You're hitching your wagon to a QB based soley on the color of his skin. 

 

Turn it around for a minute. Let's just say I wanted Trace Mcsolrey to start over Lamar and Rg3. cause LAmar and rg3 sucked and Trace is better. Then I mention he's not getting a chance or a bad rap cause he's white. Thats some KKK crap. 

You're going on ignore racist boy

Pathetic logic, but I am not even surprised one bit. 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Cool,. 2 throws that most college kids make on there pro day. 

If you think he has the power and accuracy to throw deep crossers and long out routes your sorely mistaken. 

 

Well I literally just posted evidence that he does have the ability to make those throws.  

But hey don't let facts and evidence get in the way of your biased Hurts hate.

11 minutes ago, greend said:

Because he runs he makes 1 read and runs. Running back (Boston Scott).  Not sure why you would even jump to race at all. Tebow was the same type of qb didn't want him either.

Or Taysom Hill being a RB pretending to QB