2 minutes ago, AzBirdGang said:

Hurts in 2nd half of games was really bad. I don't think people realize that.

People choose to ignore it.

If he’s the starting QB next season I’ll cheer hard for him, believe it or not.  He needs to improve in a lot of areas, though.

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If you look at it through the lens of Carson was gone no matter what (and it was obvious for awhile), this is a solid deal. The market wasn’t there.

Unfortunately, I fully expect him to play well in Indy and will look like a good deal for the Colts. 

The only way we don’t look like complete fools is if the rest of his career turns into last year.

 

The only real change needed was the GM and he’s the only one left. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The fields part doesn’t bother me if the eagles love fields. The bigger issue is what they are going to have to give up to move from 6 to 2/3 to get a Qb if that’s what they are planning on doing. Probably gonna overpay as I’m Guessing the market is going to dictate that with teams like the panthers, Broncos, Patriots and some others might attempt to move up.  

You're right. I think it's a mistake to use capital to move up and take a kid who I don't have a ton of faith in when the rest of the team is garbage.

 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm more pissed about losing To'oto'o than anything that last year created.  

Yup. That kid is good. From what I've been reading and hearing on the SEC channel, looks like Bama will land him. Hopefully SC swoops in

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The fields part doesn’t bother me if the eagles love fields. The bigger issue is what they are going to have to give up to move from 6 to 2/3 to get a Qb if that’s what they are planning on doing. Probably gonna overpay as I’m Guessing the market is going to dictate that with teams like the panthers, Broncos, Patriots and some others might attempt to move up.  

My question would be if someone pulls the trigger pre-draft or waits until draft day. There could be quite a bit of shuffling in the 6-10 spots...might be very interesting

Lowie should have to watch this on a continuous loop.  

 

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

How does a trade like this fit into the QB factory metaphor?

It grinds to a halt

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Lance is the second best prospect after Lawrence.  Fields would be a franchise-wrecker decision 

Fields it is!!

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Lance is the second best prospect after Lawrence.  Fields would be a franchise-wrecker decision 

 

3 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Lance is going to be good

I like Lance a lot lol but I’m seriousness i compare Lance’s stock coming into the nfl the same way with josh Allen. Not in terms of talent but he has the highest ceiling (of the other 3 QBs) but he also has the lowest floor of the other 3 QBs. I thought the same thing in that draft class with mayfield, darnold and Rosen with Allen. 

Trade the #6 a 2nd and a 1st next year for Deshaun Watson 

 

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

The only way we don’t look like complete fools is if the rest of his career turns into last year.

Which won't happen because this past season was absolute rock bottom for him. He's in a better situation right now with better coaching, offensive line, running game, and defense. He'll probably turn into a top five QB again. Which is frustrating, but that was never going to happen here anyway so it's not worth getting too upset about. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

If the Colts start 4-8 or something...oh man...

Lol

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

And Howie Roseman will be the one spearheading the rebuild.

Yep.

1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

My question would be if someone pulls the trigger pre-draft or waits until draft day. There could be quite a bit of shuffling in the 6-10 spots...might be very interesting

I’m curious to see what the Jets do. I think the no. 2 pick has a ton of value cause i think teams will want Wilson but do the Jets want Wilson or fields. If the Jets are fine moving on with darnold for 2021 building the team up around him and giving him him their minds better coaches like LaFleur and saleh and a ton of cap then i think they sell at the highest price. It’s going to be costly. Not sure i make that move for Wilson, fields or Lance 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I like Lance a lot lol but I’m seriousness i compare Lance’s stock coming into the nfl the same way with josh Allen. Not in terms of talent but he has the highest ceiling (of the other 3 QBs) but he also has the lowest floor of the other 3 QBs. I thought the same thing in that draft class with mayfield, darnold and Rosen with Allen. 

I had that class as Mayfield the most NFL-ready prospect, Darnold a turnover machine, Allen raw but talented, and Rosen needing a punch in the face.

Full disclosure — I didn’t even see Lamar Jackson as a first round prospect — so, of course, he wins an MVP

Wait, Schefter isn't a credible source according to lots in here so maybe it's just not true 🤷‍♂️ 

3 minutes ago, DoWorx said:

Trade the #6 a 2nd and a 1st next year for Deshaun Watson 

That wouldn't even come close to Deshaun's value. 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Which won't happen because this past season was absolute rock bottom for him. He's in a better situation right now with better coaching, offensive line, running game, and defense. He'll probably turn into a top five QB again. Which is frustrating, but that was never going to happen here anyway so it's not worth getting too upset about. 

It could’ve happened IMO with the right people involved.

 

Time to move on. But, I will ad Howie is gonna be the most despised man in Philly in quite some time in Wentz plays well or Hurts doesn’t become Russell Wilson. 

55 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of course you do.  

Can’t wait to hear Afan’s take 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m curious to see what the Jets do. I think the no. 2 pick has a ton of value cause i think teams will want Wilson but do the Jets want Wilson or fields. If the Jets are fine moving on with darnold for 2021 building the team up around him and giving him him their minds better coaches like LaFleur and saleh and a ton of cap then i think they sell at the highest price. It’s going to be costly. Not sure i make that move for Wilson, fields or Lance 

I think the Jets take Zach Wilson.  They’d be smart to stick with Darnold and build their roster, but neither Douglas or Saleh was there when he was drafted — so he’s likely gone

Just now, jwill2420 said:

Can’t wait to hear Afan’s take 

I can.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I had that class as Mayfield the most NFL-ready prospect, Darnold a turnover machine, Allen raw but talented, and Rosen needing a punch in the face.

Full disclosure — I didn’t even see Lamar Jackson as a first round prospect — so, of course, he wins an MVP

Had a multiple coaches at Arizona tell me Rosen was going to be a bust just based on what they had heard and when they played against him. This was Arizona who stunk so it kind of spoke volumes to me. I think darnold gets killed but when Todd bowles as a HC and Gase are your two HC as a pro and your team has been the worst drafting team and letting your better players go tend to not have success. Darnold could very stink but hard to know cause their organization up til now has been a bigger dumpster fire then the eagles the last 3 years.

i was really eh on mayfield i thought he was a solid middle of the road starter. I didn’t think he’d be a complete bust. I also didn’t see him being elite.