4 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I have a choice in watching crap or doing something else on my Sundays next season. If they don't care about winning why should I care? If you purposely put crap on a field you expect people to watch?

Well sadly for us season ticket holders, its pay for your tickets or lose them. I have not and will not ever sell my tickets to someone else. So yes people will watch That is the pleasure of being Lurie. He will not be losing much money at all with a crap team on the field. Sadly he will actually profit more then last year and we will get the same or worse production. I feel bad for Nick. Its not looking good for him, BUT Im sure Lurie told him the expectations would not be high for a few years down the line. 

On the positive note, at least they did not increase the ticket prices for the 5th year in a row. Finally a static year. 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It’s the reality of the business.  Take two steps back to take 3 steps forward.  Trust the process.  

Like the process hate who’s in charge of trusting it. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cause why not 

 

What a Philly kind of day.  Since it comes in threes, let's predict the next stupid, awful thing to happen to us in sports today.  I say Ben Simmons has COVID and they just didn't announce it yesterday.   

I don't think any rational GM or coach could look at Jalen Hurts and say "that's the QB we are going to build around."

I mean, come on, that's laughable.

Of course, Howie has surprised us before.  Since I have less than zero trust in Howie and the FO, I'd feel more comfortable if they dumped Hurts simply because it confirms they aren't deluded by Hurts.

But under the assumption that we have people who know what they are doing at the controls (we don't), sure, at this point it's fine to just roll with Hurts for a year en route to a 3-6 win season.

5 minutes ago, justrelax said:

As a long time Eagles fan, I am more than used to watching really bad teams. You young whippersnappers have no idea how grim it was.

I have seen way too many really bad eagles teams. This current mess is self inflicted and was easy to avoid. 

 

We have moved into what I will now call the Philadelphia Browns ERA.  

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What's the penalty if the Eagles say "screw it, we are going over the cap this year"???

"The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap regulations include fines of up to $5 million for each violation, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks."

Sort of nonspecific.  If the penalty were a 3rd round pick (I'm sure it'd be worse), I would cut or trade EVERYONE and take the dead hits.  Cox, Brooks, Lane, Ertz, Slay, Mcleod, Barnett, maybe even Hargrave.  If you are collecting a non-rookie paycheck, you are gone.

I don't think it's going to be a big deal to get under the cap.  I think the bigger question is going to be how much they push down the road and whether they can extend Barnett.  

Siriani is also going to be whispering in Howie's ear to draft a QB, he's not going to have his HC career be DOA with Hurts at QB.

3 hours ago, jamiller said:

I did not.  But, in my drunken defense, there was something happening in every row at that game.  Nothing rough, just silliness.  Actually, I was surprised at how fun the atmosphere was.  

I do remember the team down in that same corner at the end of the game.  That happened, right?

 

 

I don't remember that.

Just now, eagle45 said:

I don't think any rational GM or coach could look at Jalen Hurts and say "that's the QB we are going to build around."

I mean, come on, that's laughable.

Of course, Howie has surprised us before.  Since I have less than zero trust in Howie and the FO, I'd feel more comfortable if they dumped Hurts simply because it confirms they aren't deluded by Hurts.

But under the assumption that we have people who know what they are doing at the controls (we don't), sure, at this point it's fine to just roll with Hurts for a year en route to a 3-6 win season.

I tend to believe the Eagles have a much higher opinion of Jalen hurts that Eagles fans do. There’s a reason why they took them in the second round and it wasn’t the fact that he could be a back up and was cheap. That was nonsense they threw out there because people would buy it. Just like the nonsense they threw out saying Carson Wentz was fine with it.

 i firmly believe and it’s my opinion they drafted that kid because they didn’t know what was going to happen with Carson. Was the last four games of 2019 fools gold or that’s who Carson really was. They drafted hurts as the plan B to Carson. They wanted insurance plan in case things went sideways with Carson. I don’t think they believe it would get this sideways with him but that was a plan in their mind to have a guy in place and be ahead of the curve. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They are about to find out how grim the next couple years. 

I think we're in for a late 90s type era.  I think Lurie won't tolerate long term failure but the future looks dim.  

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Bad drafts since he came back to power, bad contracts have ruined the cap, and now he is getting bent over in trades.  He does nothing well.

He dupes Lurie pretty well.

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Interesting work-around.

For anyone not wanting to give Dave a click:

Just before the stroke of noon on Thursday, reports started to circulate that the Eagles had agreed to trade quarterback Carson Wentz to the Indianapolis Colts. Here are the terms, according to several media reports: The Eagles acquired a 2021 third-round pick and a 2022 conditional first-round pick from the Indianapolis Colts in exchange for quarterback Carson Wentz.

Any trade cannot be officially announced until the start of the 2021 league year on March 17. No team officials can comment about any deals until that time as well. If the trade becomes official, the Eagles will have eight picks in the 2021 NFL Draft, with four in the first three rounds including the sixth overall pick. The Eagles potentially could obtain additional compensatory picks for the loss of free agents that will be announced by the league at a later date. The 2021 NFL Draft is scheduled to begin April 29 through May 1.

According to the reports, the Colts' 2022 first-round pick will belong to Philadelphia as long as one of two conditions are met – Wentz plays 75 percent of the Colts' offensive snaps in 2021 or Wentz plays 70 percent of the Colts' offensive snaps and Indianapolis makes the playoffs.

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I have seen way too many really bad eagles teams. This current mess is self inflicted and was easy to avoid. 

 

We have moved into what I will now call the Philadelphia Browns ERA.  

I don’t necessarily agree with the Browns era statement. Put the boldin line is 100% true. I don’t think it Howie Roseman‘s wildest dreams he thought three years after the Super Bowl they be in this big of a mess and rebuild. Anybody who saying that they thought they would be there is full of crap. They didn’t have to go into a complete rebuild if you built it properly along the way. 

10 minutes ago, justrelax said:

As a long time Eagles fan, I am more than used to watching really bad teams. You young whippersnappers have no idea how grim it was.

This much is true 

Wow, thought two 2nd round picks was the baseline for this trade.

That said, this situation became a dumpster fire. Better to rip the band aid I suppose.

Guess I better start watching Zach Wilson film.

1 hour ago, phil77 said:

I don't care what we gave up to get Wentz and what it costs to move him.  I view his era in Philadelphia a success and while it was way shorter than most would have liked it was still a success.  If you told me we would trade all those picks and have the biggest cap hit ever for a SB win I would take it 100 times out of 100 without thinking twice.  And don't get it twisted Wentz was a major factor as to why the Eagles won that Super Bowl....

Absolutely.   But, at the same time, there is a price to be paid for this as well.   Howie screwed up.  Howie didn't get the players around Wentz to make him successful.  Howie didn't structure contracts well, to be able to add more players now.  Howie didn't draft well to fill the roster with an infusion of young talent.

6 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Well sadly for us season ticket holders, its pay for your tickets or lose them.

I would keep my season tickets and sell them next year individually and maybe even make some money. 

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

I wonder if I can dye my Wentz jersey blue...

I may cross out the z and add "to Indy"  

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

Siriani is also going to be whispering in Howie's ear to draft a QB, he's not going to have his HC career be DOA with Hurts at QB.

Lurie said they were looking more at 2-3 years down the line to be back to the winning program. You dont need a QB now. Build up the team then get a QB later. Esp if we are going to suck and draft in the top 10 the next few years. Nick is going to be given a ton of slack over the next few years. Drafting one of these high % bust guys this year is a epic fail. by the time you get then team in a ok shape you have to resign this QB to a bigger contract or draft another QB. Makes no sense. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think we're in for a late 90s type era.  I think Lurie won't tolerate long term failure but the future looks dim.  

Early 70s maybe more likely. At last late 90s the eagles were able to draft Dawkins, Thomas and trotter and some of those guys. Currently the last 5 years of drafting doesn’t look promising for the ones making those picks right now. 

7 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I have seen way too many really bad eagles teams. This current mess is self inflicted and was easy to avoid. 

 

We have moved into what I will now call the Philadelphia Browns ERA.  

This much is true as well

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I don't remember that.

Something disruptive?  maybe the MNF post game interview?  Maybe nothing more than green crowding that one corner after the game.  

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

I would keep my season tickets and sell them next year individually and maybe even make some money. 

Yea doesnt work out that well. When the Eagles suck your luck if you get pennies on the dollar for your tickets. Your better off just going. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Absolutely.   But, at the same time, there is a price to be paid for this as well.   Howie screwed up.  Howie didn't get the players around Wentz to make him successful.  Howie didn't structure contracts well, to be able to add more players now.  Howie didn't draft well to fill the roster with an infusion of young talent.

Exactly. I put it this way if you would’ve asked howie Roseman three years ago if he would be in this dire of a rebuild he would’ve laughed at you. Meanwhile the Eagles are in this dire of a situation because of his moves. Any spin or sugarcoating you want to make there is no reason the Eagles how to get to this level of a rebuild. Were there going to be some downs? yes. but the fact that they are this bad and this dire of a rebuild is worse then the eagles likely could’ve imagined 3 years after a super bowl.