14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah that’s not true. He had will fuller before he got suspended the last 5 weeks of the season. And Brandin cooks who now has 5 years of 7 total years of 1000 yards or more. 

will fuller: 879 yards and 8 tds (11 games— on pace for 1278 yards and 11 tds if not suspended)

brandin cooks: 1150 yards and 6 tds. 

I’m guessing you consider the fact two wide receivers would have gone over 1000 yards and both we’re former first rounders no help? 

That said Carson played very well down the stretch last year. 

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Agreed.  I see no reason why Duce should be an OC or HC. 

we need an identity and duce doesnt have one, we need someone can coach no huddle offense.

1 hour ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Watson is amazing Carson isn’t, he got no help and still balled out, Carson did not.  

Did Watson throw for 4,000 yards with no WR reaching 500? Or is that the superior "help" Carson had that Watson doesn't?

 

1 minute ago, toughfighter83 said:

we need an identity and duce doesnt have one, we need someone can coach no huddle offense.

Ummmmm? 

4 minutes ago, toughfighter83 said:

we need an identity and duce doesnt have one, we need someone can coach no huddle offense.

First thought that came to mind was Packers OC but he's getting HC interviews

Next would be Packers QB coach and passing game coordinator Luke Getsy

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Did Watson throw for 4,000 yards with no WR reaching 500? Or is that the superior "help" Carson had that Watson doesn't?

Texans may be a mess but they have talent at WR that we would kill for

All this talk with Howie Ertz and Wentz going around Heres my take. Howie and Carson sort of patch things up then we take a QB at 6. Get to know the top 3 QBs really well cause one of them will be the first pick for the Eagles. Why? Cause it’s Howie that’s why. 

26 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The more I think about it I just want the situation to get worse next season.  So the worst possibility may make me feel better when we undoubtedly still suck on offense next season.  

Dont worry.  It will.

45 minutes ago, greend said:

If Doug is staying he NEEDS to give that up

Doug is staying... Howie is staying... they are going to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.   This will be 2012 or worse next year.   

1 minute ago, jwill2420 said:

All this talk with Howie Ertz and Wentz going around Heres my take. Howie and Carson sort of patch things up then we take a QB at 6. Get to know the top 3 QBs really well cause one of them will be the first pick for the Eagles. Why? Cause it’s Howie that’s why. 

I doubt the top 3 QBs will last to 6.  And if we take someone like Lance or Jones at #6 there will be riots.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

I doubt the top 3 QBs will last to 6.  And if we take someone like Lance or Jones at #6 there will be riots.

QB factory baby

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

There's a ton of point to it.  You deal with the root of the problem as soon as you can. 

The sooner you get the right coach in place, the sooner you can get an identity and start to install an offense and start developing talent the right way.

The sooner you get a GM in here who can draft, the sooner you start to stockpile young talent for that coach to work in.  

 

But, we'll squander the top 10 pick... top 40 pick... and top 70 pick.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

At this point a lawn gnome couldn't do any worse than Doug

I think I just found us an UDFA guard for next year.

 

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Doug is staying... Howie is staying... they are going to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.   This will be 2012 or worse next year.   

1998 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

1998 

Maybe.   I'm thinking it was about it being painfully obvious that they should have moved on after 2011, but they waited an extra year and it got worse...  I'm not sure it was that bad in 1997... but there was a tie.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There's a ton of point to it.  You deal with the root of the problem as soon as you can. 

The sooner you get the right coach in place, the sooner you can get an identity and start to install an offense and start developing talent the right way.

The sooner you get a GM in here who can draft, the sooner you start to stockpile young talent for that coach to work in.  

 

But, we'll squander the top 10 pick... top 40 pick... and top 70 pick.

I don't trust Howie to get the right coach in at all, especially if he's handicapped at not getting the top choices. All it would do is he likely brings in someone terrible and now has a built in excuse to survive another year or more. You just have to hope Lurie laid out an ultimatum to both that they have this year to improve or are gone.

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

Like last time?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't trust Howie to get the right coach in at all, especially if he's handicapped at not getting the top choices. All it would do is he likely brings in someone terrible and now has a built in excuse to survive another year or more. You just have to hope Lurie laid out an ultimatum to both that they have this year to improve or are gone.

What part of my post indicated that Howie should be retained?  

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

Bo wulf had a pretty interesting theory about what lurie might actually be doing. Not saying I agree with it or that it doesn’t have other flaws. But his reasoning for not firing howie and doug is he knows the current situation with their salary cap. If he goes and fires both of them then whoever comes in has to deal with that massive hole of a salary cap and likely know that the team is not going to be overly competitive next year considering they don’t have money to add people only young draft picks and they have to get younger and they’re not a very good roster at the moment. This makes the job much less attractive due to knowing in 2021 you in a disadvantage with all those things. Meanwhile in a year from now even if the Eagles are bad and suck, you’re going to have more Flexibility as the salary cap wind up being in a better situation and likely increases. Add on the next coach and front office person would also have likely high draft picks to work with and can go whatever direction they want to at QB as you’d be able to somewhat get out of Carson’s contract and Hurts you could do whatever you wanted with.

I am not saying he’s correct or even right but it is an interesting theory on what we might be seeing

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I think I just found us an UDFA guard for next year.

 

Not impressed she didn’t even have gloves she could fix in the middle of it. 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There's not much of a point in firing Doug this year at this point. All other 6 teams have interviewed multiple candidates already. Eagles would be so behind the eight ball they would have to settle for someone.

We settled for Doug and that worked out OK.  We landed Chip and he ended being terrible.  

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What part of my post indicated that Howie should be retained?  

I'm working off the assumption Howie is here, since that's been reported, and for some reason Lurie changes his mind and fires Doug, which is what some fans want.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bo wulf had a pretty interesting theory about what lurie might actually be doing. Not saying I agree with it or that it doesn’t have other flaws. But his reasoning for not firing howie and doug is he knows the current situation with their salary cap. If he goes and fires both of them then whoever comes in has to deal with that massive hole of a salary cap and likely know that the team is not going to be overly competitive next year considering they don’t have money to add people only young draft picks and they have to get younger and they’re not a very good roster at the moment. This makes the job much less attractive due to knowing in 2021 you in a disadvantage with all those things. Meanwhile in a year from now even if the Eagles are bad and suck, you’re going to have more Flexibility as the salary cap wind up being in a better situation and likely increases. Add on the next coach and front office person would also have likely high draft picks to work with and can go whatever direction they want to at QB as you’d be able to somewhat get out of Carson’s contract and Hurts you could do whatever you wanted with.

I am not saying he’s correct or even right but it is an interesting theory on what we might be seeing

If I’m the owner, and I find a GM I really like, I’m being fair. Two years basically on the house. Time to fix the mess and get a plan going and then as long as there is progress, start evaluating in year three as if it’s year 1. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bo wulf had a pretty interesting theory about what lurie might actually be doing. Not saying I agree with it or that it doesn’t have other flaws. But his reasoning for not firing howie and doug is he knows the current situation with their salary cap. If he goes and fires both of them then whoever comes in has to deal with that massive hole of a salary cap and likely know that the team is not going to be overly competitive next year considering they don’t have money to add people only young draft picks and they have to get younger and they’re not a very good roster at the moment. This makes the job much less attractive due to knowing in 2021 you in a disadvantage with all those things. Meanwhile in a year from now even if the Eagles are bad and suck, you’re going to have more Flexibility as the salary cap wind up being in a better situation and likely increases. Add on the next coach and front office person would also have likely high draft picks to work with and can go whatever direction they want to at QB as you’d be able to somewhat get out of Carson’s contract and Hurts you could do whatever you wanted with.

I am not saying he’s correct or even right but it is an interesting theory on what we might be seeing

Sure... that's a way to go... 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not impressed she didn’t even have gloves she could fix in the middle of it. 

We'll bring in the guy that showed up at the end.