19 minutes ago, RLC said:

WRs currently on the roster: Reagor, JJAW, Fulgham, Watkins, Hightower, Ward.

I don't get why we'd add Goodwin unless he's taking one of the spots from Watkins/Hightower. 

Well they all suck until someone proves otherwise.

Reagor is the only one that anyone would even look twice if cut.

38 minutes ago, CheesesteakNBeer said:

While I agree with everything you said, that was than and this is now. Those days of sitting a quarterback to watch from the sidelines and learn are over. Maybe if you have a hall of famer like Rodgers you can get to do that but that's no longer the standard. It's to much of a business now with all of the money involved. This is a win now league and what have you done for me lately. 

Mahomes sat for a year.

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

Wouldn't be shocked at all if the top 4 picks were all QBs.

Nah....

31 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

So Goodwin is back?

26 minutes ago, RLC said:

WRs currently on the roster: Reagor, JJAW, Fulgham, Watkins, Hightower, Ward.

I don't get why we'd add Goodwin unless he's taking one of the spots from Watkins/Hightower. 

JJAW to TE.

Draft 1 WR.  Resign Goodwin, that leaves you 7 WR's (plus training camp additions, etc)  That's about right. 

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Someone is going to take Sewell.  Plug and play tackle who could be a pro-bowl player within a couple of years. 

Projections have the Jags and Jets (or the Texans in their place) taking a QB at 1 and 2, respectively. Atlanta at 4 needs a QB long-term and probably see themselves in a similar way as the Eagles see themselves -- a bottomed out team that likely won't be picking this high again in the near future. Miami is in prime position to trade down from 3 with teams like the Eagles, Panthers, Lions, and Broncos all likely in the hunt.

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Need a veteran in that WR room. Dude still has all-world speed. Makes total sense.

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Projections have the Jags and Jets (or the Texans in their place) taking a QB at 1 and 2, respectively. Atlanta at 4 needs a QB long-term and probably see themselves in a similar way as the Eagles see themselves -- a bottomed out team that likely won't be picking this high again in the near future. Miami is in prime position to trade down from 3 with teams like the Eagles, Panthers, Lions, and Broncos all likely in the hunt.

If that's the case and Sewell is available at 6, even better for the Eagles.  I can think of a half dozen teams that would want to trade up to take him at 6.  I hope you're right. 

Just now, Saltpeter said:

Need a veteran in that WR room. Dude still has all-world speed. Makes total sense.

 Cut.  We need someone that doesn’t suck in the wr room.  

here is a WR not on anyone's radar that should be. fast, and listed at 6'2''. Very versatile. 

 

13 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

If that's the case and Sewell is available at 6, even better for the Eagles.  I can think of a half dozen teams that would want to trade up to take him at 6.  I hope you're right. 

As someone who doesn't want a 1st round QB this year, I hope I'm right too lol (unless it's the Eagles trading up, then I'd be pretty angry).

But really, I think it comes down to the combination of teams picking at the top this year other than Miami being QB-needy, this QB class being strong, and next year's QB class not being highly regarded (from everything I've read so far).

Jason Licht took over TB in 2014, his record:  2-14, 6-10. 9-7, 5-11, 5-11, 7-9, 11-5 and SB. 

How hard is drafting, here's what "Football Guy" Licht did: [OOF = out of football] bold = at least one PB - players who started at least one season

2014:  #7 Evans WR, #38 Seferian-Jenkins TE (OOF), #69 SIms RB (OOF), #149 Pamphile T

2015:  #1 Winston QB, #34 Smith T, #61 Marpet C, #124 Alexander LB

2016:  #11 Hargreaves CB [#39, #59 missed]

2017:  #19 Howard TE, #50 Evans S, #84 Godwin WR

2018:  #12 Vea DT, #38 Jones RB, #63 Davis CB, #94 Cappa T, #117 Whitehead S [#53 missed]

2019:  #5 White, #39 Murphy-Bunting CB, 

2020:  #13 Wirfs T, #45 Winfield S

He's good at picking starters, but not picking great players, look how many high 1st and 2nds, yet Evans is the only elite player in 7 years, maybe White down the road.

24 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Well they all suck until someone proves otherwise.

Reagor is the only one that anyone would even look twice if cut.

Nah.  Watkins, Fulgham and Ward would be picked up /signed immediately if they were cut. Hightower probably would too although I think the ones that need protection would be Watkins, Ward and Fulgham. 

So if they draft a WR, it could look like this: 

Reagor, Fulgham, Ward, (Drafted WR), Watkins, Goodwin. 

Hightower P.S. 

JJAW converted to TE.

Tampa's drafts have been very good...

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 Cut.  We need someone that doesn’t suck in the wr room.  

What better veteran do you expect to sign on a minimum contract?

7 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Nah.  Watkins, Fulgham and Ward would be picked up /signed immediately if they were cut. Hightower probably would too although I think the ones that need protection would be Watkins, Ward and Fulgham. 

So if they draft a WR, it could look like this: 

Reagor, Fulgham, Ward, (Drafted WR), Watkins, Goodwin. 

Hightower P.S. 

JJAW converted to TE.

So we are debating whether or not the best pass catchers on our team would get scooped up as back roster additions on other teams.  

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

here is a WR not on anyone's radar that should be. fast, and listed at 6'2''. Very versatile. 

 

Reminds me of Quez a little bit but with much less production.  Why was his production so low? 

6 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Jason Licht took over TB in 2014, his record:  2-14, 6-10. 9-7, 5-11, 5-11, 7-9, 11-5 and SB. 

How hard is drafting, here's what "Football Guy" Licht did: [OOF = out of football] bold = at least one PB - players who started at least one season

2014:  #7 Evans WR, #38 Seferian-Jenkins TE (OOF), #69 SIms RB (OOF), #149 Pamphile T

2015:  #1 Winston QB, #34 Smith T, #61 Marpet C, #124 Alexander LB

2016:  #11 Hargreaves CB [#39, #59 missed]

2017:  #19 Howard TE, #50 Evans S, #84 Godwin WR

2018:  #12 Vea DT, #38 Jones RB, #63 Davis CB, #94 Cappa T, #117 Whitehead S [#53 missed]

2019:  #5 White, #39 Murphy-Bunting CB, 

2020:  #13 Wirfs T, #45 Winfield S

He's good at picking starters, but not picking great players, look how many high 1st and 2nds, yet Evans is the only elite player in 7 years, maybe White down the road.

Bucs are loaded with young talent , they can just draft BPA this year , no room for starters ,  drafting for the future 

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

If Chase is there at 6 and they take a QB it’ll be the final straw for me.

Then what?

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Disney be like 

 

F 'em all. Too many commercials now

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Reminds me of Quez a little bit but with much less production.  Why was his production so low? 

Bad QB play. Boring offense. 

19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

here is a WR not on anyone's radar that should be. fast, and listed at 6'2''. Very versatile. 

 

Productive? Howie already has him off their board. If he has a brother who stinks that will work though.

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Reminds me of Quez a little bit but with much less production.  Why was his production so low? 

seems mostly scheme and QB.

 

4 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Tampa's drafts have been very good...

Yes and no, they picked high almost every year, even a blind squirrel . . . here are the guys who started for the SB team, 12 picks in the last 7 drafts:

2014:  #7 Evans WR,

2015:  #34 Smith T, #61 Marpet C

2016: 

2017:  #50 Evans S, #84 Godwin WR

2018:  #38 Jones RB, #63 Davis CB, #117 Whitehead S

2019:  #5 White LB, #39 Murphy-Bunting CB,

2020:  #13 Wirfs T, #45 Winfield S

top backups

#19-2017, Howard TE

#12-2018 Vea DT,

#94-2019 Dean CB

#208-2019 Miller WR

#161-2020 Johnson WR

#144-2018 Watson WR

#107-2019 Nelson LB

The key for TB's success was bringing in Brady, Gronkowski, Jensen C, Suh, Nunez-Roches DT, JPP, and holdovers David and Gholston, pre-Licht.

 

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So we are debating whether or not the best pass catchers on our team would get scooped up as back roster additions on other teams.  

Nah.  I think both Watkins and Fulgham showed enough to warrant another year on the team.  Ward has been the most consistent receiver on the roster over the past 2 seasons and has shown to be pretty solid in the slot.  Until his production is replaced, he's our slot. 

Reagor isn't going anywhere, probably start at Z.

Goodwin would be the veteran receiver out of the bunch.  I'm not super high on Hightower like others so he would be the P.S. candidate, imo.

And we draft a potential starting X (to compete with Fulgham for X) when we trade down and accumulate some additional late 1st or 2nd round picks.

 

14 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Yes and no, they picked high almost every year, even a blind squirrel . . . here are the guys who started for the SB team, 12 picks in the last 7 drafts:

2014:  #7 Evans WR,

2015:  #34 Smith T, #61 Marpet C

2016: 

2017:  #50 Evans S, #84 Godwin WR

2018:  #38 Jones RB, #63 Davis CB, #117 Whitehead S

2019:  #5 White LB, #39 Murphy-Bunting CB,

2020:  #13 Wirfs T, #45 Winfield S

top backups

#19-2017, Howard TE

#12-2018 Vea DT,

#94-2019 Dean CB

#208-2019 Miller WR

#161-2020 Johnson WR

#144-2018 Watson WR

#107-2019 Nelson LB

The key for TB's success was bringing in Brady, Gronkowski, Jensen C, Suh, Nunez-Roches DT, JPP, and holdovers David and Gholston, pre-Licht.

 

Vea is a starter not a backup 

Cappa is a starter, missed superbowl because of injury 

Dean is their second best cb

Edwards played in superbowl, and was key through playoffs ,as was brate.

And how can you talk about key to their success, and not mention shaq barret,  you dont wartch enough of them to offer a serious take.