37 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

5 minutes worth of research could have squashed this, but I guess that is too much to ask these days from some of these writers.

What makes that picture more funny is that all the Wentz haters who wanted Hurts to be the starter and Wentz gone are mostly all jumping ship now and want the Eagles to draft a QB with the first round pick, lol. Most of the Wentz supporters are hoping Hurts gets his shot. 

2 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

What makes that picture more funny is that all the Wentz haters who wanted Hurts to be the starter and Wentz gone are mostly all jumping ship now and want the Eagles to draft a QB with the first round pick, lol. Most of the Wentz supporters are hoping Hurts gets his shot. 

Not around here.  The only ones that don't want Hurts to get a shot seem to be the "die hard" Wentz supporters that seem to blame Hurts for Wentz' downfall in Philadelphia. 

22 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

They are assuming it because 41% of those polled wanted to keep Wentz.  And to point at "racism" as being the cause is absurd, imo. 

Growing up in Philly, the majority of "white people" were of Irish, German, Polish and Italian descent so I can see how some people might have been infatuated with having a red-headed, 6'5, white QB, with the last name "Wentz".......but at the end of the day, Philly is Philly and they're going to want the guy that wins...hence why (even in their own poll), 59% still preferred Hurts (the Black guy) over Wentz.  

Your poll includes Jersey, Maryland and Delaware so its not really a accurate number. Pretty far off. Here are the real numbers which shows they are more equal in %

Philadelphia Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Philadelphia was:

• Black or African American: 42.13%
• White: 40.66%
• Asian: 7.24%
• Other race: 6.49%
• Two or more races: 3.06%
• Native American: 0.36%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Has Kelce made a comment yet? Is there a date in which he'd have to make a comment?

Going to miss him when it happens

There’s no date but I imagine he is going to let the Eagles know his intentions soon so they can factor it into their offseason plan 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

Your poll includes Jersey and Delaware so its not really a accurate number. Pretty far off. Here are the real numbers which shows they are more equal in %

Philadelphia Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Philadelphia was:

• Black or African American: 42.13%
• White: 40.66%
• Asian: 7.24%
• Other race: 6.49%
• Two or more races: 3.06%
• Native American: 0.36%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%

Yes, South Jersey and parts of Delaware are considered "metro Philadelphia".  And yes, predominantly Eagles fans, without question.  You can't just use the actual city limit demographics when evaluating the demographics of Eagles fans.  And no one uses that, btw.  When evaluating demographics of fan bases, you first look at metro areas then look at the broader, attached areas....

I was only using Metro Philadelphia but Eagles fan territory goes out much further, well into Lancaster county, Berks, parts of Harrisburg,  Poconos, and even northern parts of Maryland. (All predominantly white areas). I can assure you, without question, the majority of Eagles fans are white.  

 

 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's been reading too much of afan.

Actually, I got that from interviews where he stated that if they had two players pretty evenly slotted that he would defer to the player the coach preferred.  I have been saying that deferring to Schwartz has been a mistake for the last two drafts because it always seemed Schwartz picked the wrong player.   

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Actually, I got that from interviews where he stated that if they had two players pretty evenly slotted that he would defer to the player the coach preferred.  I have been saying that deferring to Schwartz has been a mistake for the last two drafts because it always seemed Schwartz picked the wrong player.   

Got any links for that? Are you talking draft or FA or both?

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

From everything I’ve read Lance is miles ahead of Jackson in terms of accuracy. 

He is but it is NDSU so the competition isn’t that great.  I like Jackson as a TE convert project. It does make you wonder though, if Jackson makes the team if they only carry two QBs this year as they would have him as a potential emergency QB.  

Not many  can make this throw 

 

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1363288835350667267?s=20

2 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Not many  can make this throw 

 

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1363288835350667267?s=20

Looked like an everyday NFL throw

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Looked like an everyday NFL throw

On the move , across your body ,opposite side of the field 55 yards ,hardly an everyday throw.

Just now, Original Sin said:

On the move , across your body ,opposite side of the field 55 yards ,hardly an everyday throw.

What few QBs do you think can only throw that?

Looked like 50 yards

6 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Actually, I got that from interviews where he stated that if they had two players pretty evenly slotted that he would defer to the player the coach preferred.  I have been saying that deferring to Schwartz has been a mistake for the last two drafts because it always seemed Schwartz picked the wrong player.   

And he's right. BPA is best player for your team, not some hypothetical best player, Donald would be an awful fit for a 3-4 team. If a player is clearly BPA, you take him, but if there's a tie or only a small difference, go with the player the coaches feel is the better fit. If the GM forces players on coaches they don't want, that's an issue, if he concedes to their desires but they haven't thought it out, that's a problem.

I think Sirianni and Gannon have a clearer vision of the type of players they like, and experience coaching them up, Sirianni (WR, QB), Gannon (DB), Rucker (DL), Stoutland (OL) , Michael (TE), Johnson (QB) - these coaches have extensive position coaching experience, LB less so.

The real key is the later picks and the UDFAs, I think Howie has been average on the first and second days (some misses, but also Cox, Lane, Ertz, Goedert, Sanders et al), but excels later in the draft and identifying UDFAs to sign and SFAs to grab off the waiver wire. Kelce, Dion Lewis (4th), Dennis Kelly (5th) Poyer (7th), Beau Allen (7th), Sweat (4th), Mailata (7th), Driscoll (4th). UDFAs: Edwards, Herbig, Ward, Clement, Sullivan, Burton. SFAs: Singleton, Scott, Gruiger-Hill, Perkins, Rodgers.

These guys aren't going to fill a pro bowl squad, but they're the "other starters," key backups and ST specialists you need.

For this to work, Howie not only has to find these guys, but the coaching staff has to commit to teaching them, instead of just focusing on the guys who are likely to make the 53 roster. A lot of improvement year to year are the guys off the PS and the guys at the back of the 53, stepping up their 2nd and 3rd seasons.

5 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

On the move , across your body ,opposite side of the field 55 yards ,hardly an everyday throw.

Except in the NFL, he'd never make that throw, b/c the CB would have tighter coverage and he'd be looking at the clouds.

It would be difficult for most if they planted their feet ,he jumped threw it

5 hours ago, hputenis said:

The last time you brought a chick home from the bar so she could play jubby wubbly with your sasquatch man moobs,  did you just keep going when you realized she had a dong?  

I callem moobs

Forget the coverage,  I'm talking about the throw itself 

Highlight films of QBs throwing and receivers catching are basically crap. Cherry picking their best throws and catches, but not giving a clear picture.

What would impress me is film showing him going through progressions under pressure, identifying his open target and quickly hitting him on the hands.

Reality check, 20 NFL QBs could have won the SB with TB, because any decent NFL QB can hit his receivers all day if he has 5+ seconds to throw.

And probably no QB could have made the KC offense work with that pass blocking.

It's the in between of those extremes where most QBs live, making throws in under 3 seconds for the most part, and 4 seconds for the occasional deep shot. And running QBs either get hurt or teams spy and mush rush their ends, forcing throws from the pocket. So show me film of those plays from the pocket, including the misses, and we'll see if these college QBs are for real - and if that film doesn't exist, it says the kid isn't ready for NFL adversity. Running around making plays is not an offense, except for Seattle.

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What few QBs do you think can only throw that?

Looked like 50 yards

Rodgers, Allen, Mahomes.

Wentz maybe

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

They are assuming it because 41% of those polled wanted to keep Wentz.  And to point at "racism" as being the cause is absurd, imo. 

Growing up in Philly, the majority of "white people" were of Irish, German, Polish and Italian descent so I can see how some people might have been infatuated with having a red-headed, 6'5, white QB, with the last name "Wentz".......but at the end of the day, Philly is Philly and they're going to want the guy that wins...hence why (even in their own poll), 59% still preferred Hurts (the Black guy) over Wentz.  

Well if they want the guy that wins, 100% would vote neither.

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Got any links for that? Are you talking draft or FA or both?

Both.  These from an old article, for example:

Quickly reminded that Rowe, a rookie in 2015, wouldn't have even been eligible for an extension for two more years, Roseman hinted that they may have allowed defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz too much input.

"We did make that determination based on the defense that we have, the scheme that we have," he said. "And then after talking about our corner position with the coaches, we were concerned about getting the same value, if it was the same situation going forward. And obviously you can only deal with the information that you have at the time."
Maybe worse than getting rid of a productive young player like Rowe, who was drawing a cap-friendly salary, at the behest of Schwartz, was bringing in a bunch of Schwartz's former players who didn't prove worth it.

With the exception of Nigel Bradham, who solidified the SAM linebacker position, cornerbacks Leodis McKelvin and Ron Brooks and middle linebacker Stephen Tulloch contributed little or nothing.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Highlight films of QBs throwing and receivers catching are basically crap. Cherry picking their best throws and catches, but not giving a clear picture.

What would impress me is film showing him going through progressions under pressure, identifying his open target and quickly hitting him on the hands.

Reality check, 20 NFL QBs could have won the SB with TB, because any decent NFL QB can hit his receivers all day if he has 5+ seconds to throw.

And probably no QB could have made the KC offense work with that pass blocking.

It's the in between of those extremes where most QBs live, making throws in under 3 seconds for the most part, and 4 seconds for the occasional deep shot. And running QBs either get hurt or teams spy and mush rush their ends, forcing throws from the pocket. So show me film of those plays from the pocket, including the misses, and we'll see if these college QBs are for real - and if that film doesn't exist, it says the kid isn't ready for NFL adversity. Running around making plays is not an offense, except for Seattle.

Your nuts  , not a qb in the league who could have went to tampa and won superbowl in first year . That is why Brady is the best QB ever and it's not close , 43 years old switches teams after 20 years ,and wins it all . No other qb could have done that.

18 minutes ago, austinfan said:

 

I think Sirianni and Gannon have a clearer vision of the type of players they like, and experience coaching them up.

How the hell do you or anyone else know what their vision is?  They’ve been more than assistant coaches for about a week and have never said anything in front of a mic besides "I need to watch more tape.”

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

Your nuts  , not a qb in the league who could have went to tampa and won superbowl in first year . That is why Brady is the best QB ever and it's not close , 43 years old switches teams after 20 years ,and wins it all . No other qb could have done that.

He had a ridiculous amount of time to throw, any decent QB can move the ball if he's not under pressure. And he had Evans and Gronk to throw to.

Brady at 43 isn't the same QB he was 5-10 years ago, but he chose the right team to join.

6 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Both.  These from an old article, for example:

Quickly reminded that Rowe, a rookie in 2015, wouldn't have even been eligible for an extension for two more years, Roseman hinted that they may have allowed defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz too much input.

"We did make that determination based on the defense that we have, the scheme that we have," he said. "And then after talking about our corner position with the coaches, we were concerned about getting the same value, if it was the same situation going forward. And obviously you can only deal with the information that you have at the time."
Maybe worse than getting rid of a productive young player like Rowe, who was drawing a cap-friendly salary, at the behest of Schwartz, was bringing in a bunch of Schwartz's former players who didn't prove worth it.

With the exception of Nigel Bradham, who solidified the SAM linebacker position, cornerbacks Leodis McKelvin and Ron Brooks and middle linebacker Stephen Tulloch contributed little or nothing.

That doesn’t say anything about the draft? Do you have the link?

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

How the hell do you or anyone else know what their vision is?  They’ve been more than assistant coaches for about a week and have never said anything in front of a mic besides "I need to watch more tape.”

Was gonna call him out for it and decided to pass.