1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

I have been saying the same. He could be a Mike Evans style player in the NFL. if I was to draft him, it would be to play outside with the option to move him around. 

All I know is , he is a problem for defenses , bama could not shut him down with their stud D , plus he caused 4 defensive penalties 

Interesting tidbit from Smith 

I could possibly give you on him from that week in Mobile comes from his Heisman Trophy winning receiver DeVonta Smith. One team asked Smith, point blank: Tua Tagovailoa or Jones? The question was barely finished before Smith answered: Mac Jones. He was bold and definitive about it, as I heard

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/02/22/mmqb-carson-wentz-trade-washington-front-office-tim-tebow

I think Mac Jones could be a real good pro , especially if he lands with the saints , apparently the panthers like him too

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Already covered.   Did you know the Eagles are releasing Alshon Jeffrey?

WTF?  Who is Wentz supposed to throw to?

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

WTF?  Who is Wentz supposed to throw to?

DeSean Jackson

7 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

I'm here to say I told you so to irrational Carson cultists who denied and downplayed his numerous issues, and gaslighted people who criticized him for the last year.

He's been gone for only a few days, and this is a highly relevant article that proves what I've said all along, that your boy is a stubborn mule who refused to listen to coaching.  When are you and your friends going to admit it?

I heard last week (think Caplan was discussing it) that in 16 and 17 it was basically Doug, Reich, Defillippo and Wentz together during the week going over the offense with Defillippo leading the meetings and doing most of the talking.  As we all know, Defillippo was very tough and demanding in his coaching.  He was very strict in regards to technique and mechanics.  Hopefully Indy has someone that isn't afraid to coach Wentz and coach him hard.

Just now, 315Eagles said:

I heard last week (think Caplan was discussing it) that in 16 and 17 it was basically Doug, Reich, Defillippo and Wentz together during the week going over the offense with Defillippo leading the meetings and doing most of the talking.  As we all know, Defillippo was very tough and demanding in his coaching.  He was very strict in regards to technique and mechanics.  Hopefully Indy has someone that isn't afraid to coach Wentz and coach him hard.

They have Pess Taylor, they will be fine.

Apparently Groh when OC tried to do the hard coach routine and clashed with him a few times. Not sure he will be able to do it in Indy being the WR coach.

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

WTF?  Who is Wentz supposed to throw to?

Dont worry.  Indy will sign Alshon.

13 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Colts are already in the playoffs without Wentz.  I dont think its gonna be a big deal if Indy is in the playoffs.  

Maybe I'm reaching but Wentz has to get them to an AFCCG or SB.  Pressure is on him a little.

I think that’s fair given what they’re paying him and what they gave up for him, in the context of where the Colts got to last season.

It will be interesting to see Wentz’s performance relative to what they had in Philip Rivers.  Rivers was about 68% comp which Wentz would be hard pressed to get to, but Rivers was always a 2 TD/INT ratio guy his whole career (24 TD/11 INT last season)— and if Wentz does get fixed he will outperform that.

This still cracks me up

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think that’s fair given what they’re paying him and what they gave up for him, in the context of where the Colts got to last season.

It will be interesting to see Wentz’s performance relative to what they had in Philip Rivers.  Rivers was about 68% comp which Wentz would be hard pressed to get to, but Rivers was always a 2 TD/INT ratio guy his whole career (24 TD/11 INT last season)— and if Wentz does get fixed he will outperform that.

I dont think he will outperform it by much.  I can see him around 62-65% comp, 25 tds, 10 ints as long as they have some balance and run the ball which I think they will.

Even during his best year, 2017, his comp % was around 60.  Accuracy has always been a little issue with him.  He has trouble completing screens and little dump offs for F's sake.

 

16 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Interesting tidbit from Smith 

I could possibly give you on him from that week in Mobile comes from his Heisman Trophy winning receiver DeVonta Smith. One team asked Smith, point blank: Tua Tagovailoa or Jones? The question was barely finished before Smith answered: Mac Jones. He was bold and definitive about it, as I heard

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/02/22/mmqb-carson-wentz-trade-washington-front-office-tim-tebow

Jones was better with Smith and a part time Waddle than Tua was with Smith, Jeudy, Ruggs, and Waddle...

I’d definitely take Jones over Tua.  

47 minutes ago, RLC said:

I didn't realize that the Eagles won't release Jeffrey/Jackson until the league year starts. That means they need to create 43M in cap space, without using Jeffrey/Jackson to do so.

That makes the math really complicated, unless we extend Barnett, restructure Graham and Hargrave, etc.

My guess is that they will extend Barnett, restructure Graham, Cox and maybe Johnson.  I think trading Slay would help but that's not effective until the start of the year.  The same can be said with Ertz which is why he may get cut.  There was a report that they were contacting Godwin to restructure.  I hope they just cut him.  He would save $4 million.  

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Jones was better with Smith and a part time Waddle than Tua was with Smith, Jeudy, Ruggs, and Waddle...

I’d definitely take Jones over Tua.  

So Smith basically just told the Dolphins NOT to draft him. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

My guess is that they will extend Barnett, restructure Graham, Cox and maybe Johnson.  I think trading Slay would help but that's not effective until the start of the year.  The same can be said with Ertz which is why he may get cut.  There was a report that they were contacting Godwin to restructure.  I hope they just cut him.  He would save $4 million.  

What does restructure Cox, Graham, and Johnson entail/accomplish?

These are players we really don’t want to extend.  So are we just moving their cap liabilities from this year to the future?   Is that really what we want?

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

What does restructure Cox, Graham, and Johnson entail/accomplish?

These are players we really don’t want to extend.  So are we just moving their cap liabilities from this year to the future?   Is that really what we want?

It's not what we want but I think they are targets for restructuring.  Graham makes the least sense but Cox and Johnson may still have 2-3 good seasons.  

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What does restructure Cox, Graham, and Johnson entail/accomplish?

These are players we really don’t want to extend.  So are we just moving their cap liabilities from this year to the future?   Is that really what we want?

No, its not what we want but I don't see any other way to even get under the cap unless you restructure at least two of Cox, Graham, Lane, or Brooks.

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What does restructure Cox, Graham, and Johnson entail/accomplish?

These are players we really don’t want to extend.  So are we just moving their cap liabilities from this year to the future?   Is that really what we want?

It's what we are forced to do.

6 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

No, its not what we want but I don't see any other way to even get under the cap unless you restructure at least two of Cox, Graham, Lane, or Brooks.

wouldnt surprised if you see one or two of them cut or traded before you see them restructured. 

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

Walter Football had him as the 7th ranked QB prospect.

CBS had him 8th.

SI 7th

Sporting News 6th

ESPN 7th

 

Those rankings are crap.  Look at how many players they tout that fail.  Look at how inaccurate their mocks are.  

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

wouldnt surprised if you see one or two of them cut or traded before you see them restructured. 

You wouldn't really save any money trading Brooks or Lane and I thought both would actually cost us cap space.  

We're not going to go on a spending spree in 2022, so with the cap rising, moving some money into that year will allow the flexibility to add a couple FAs.

By 2023, most of the dead money will be off the books, as will be most of the big salaries.

If Hurts emerges as a true starting QB in 2022, then they'll have to extend him starting in 2024.

To commit to him as the starting QB, he has to be solidly in the top 15, there really isn't a lot of difference between #5 and #15 most years, Wentz was #10-15 after 2017, and if the team had stayed healthy, that would have been good enough for a deep playoff run. You simply can't plan on a Brady, Peyton, Elway, Rodgers. Guys like Big Ben and Eli were carried by their teams, Brees needed the right offense and so on. I'm not sold on Favre as a top 5, great counting stats but lots of mistakes.

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

What does restructure Cox, Graham, and Johnson entail/accomplish?

These are players we really don’t want to extend.  So are we just moving their cap liabilities from this year to the future?   Is that really what we want?

It is really the only option available.  They already restructured Malik Jackson and Alshon Jeffrey to make them post June 1 cuts. Those savings do not help the Eagles get under the cap to start the league year.

Then cutting / trading Ertz, Barnett and Goodwin, Eagles are still 26.2 million over the cap. 

The only remaining players with a cap savings of over 1 million you could cut are

Cox, 21 million dead, 2 million saved, Maddox, 1.4 million saved.

I honestly have no idea how Howie can fix this without crippling future years.  He really has made a mess.

2 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

You wouldn't really save any money trading Brooks or Lane and I thought both would actually cost us cap space.  

Actually you would save by trading Brooks. 2.3 pre june 1st, 10.5 post june 1st. 

Wentz will have to wear a new # since Pittman wants to keep #11.  

Any number except 7.  It's the worst jersey number for a QB.