While we’re all piling on AF, I have to admit that I agree to a certain extent that Howie ran into bad luck. While older players are more risk for an injury, it’s pretty wild that Wallace, D Jackson and M Jackson all came here and basically missed four of their combined five seasons here, not to mention other injuries. And Covid obviously helped make a bad cap situation a disaster. 

5 hours ago, austinfan said:

Duh, the RB is a two year player, the WRs are rookies or waiver wire guys, the blocking TE is unlikely ever to be a 1000 yard receiver.

If Jefferson was on the Eagles last season, he wouldn't have had more than 800 yards receiving, a couple good games and he'd be facing pressing CBs with a safety on top. Without other threats, even a first rate talent is going to struggle as a rookie.

Reagor, will NEVER match Jefferson’s rookie season stats in any year he is in the NFL.  Hell, Reagor and JJAWful combined won’t match Jefferson.

I don’t understand your love of Roseman.  Minus getting lucky one year, he has been horrible, and is about to screw up a top 10 pick.

6 hours ago, austinfan said:

It does help to pick in the top ten.

Check back in three years on the pro bowl players.

Has one player besides Mailata and DG even shown anything remotely close to having potential to be a Pro Bowl player? 

The answer is no.

29 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Bad pandemic luck. 

Even if the cap was $200 million they would still be over and at the bottom of the League in terms of cap space. If anything, the lower cap space places them at less of a competitive disadvantage because many teams don't have space. 

7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Even if the cap was $200 million they would still be over and at the bottom of the League in terms of cap space. If anything, the lower cap space places them at less of a competitive disadvantage because many teams don't have space. 

The bigger issue for me isn't actually their cap situation. Howie will work the cap and he will get us compliant (he has no choice and that's the same for every GM). The bigger issue for me is that we are over the cap with a bottom end of the league roster. That's literally the worst position for a team to be in.

7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Even if the cap was $200 million they would still be over and at the bottom of the League in terms of cap space. If anything, the lower cap space places them at less of a competitive disadvantage because many teams don't have space. 

Football Team has 40 million in cap space.

Not sure how a team in our division with 80 million more in cap space  puts us at less of a competitive disadvantage.

40 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

While we’re all piling on AF, I have to admit that I agree to a certain extent that Howie ran into bad luck. While older players are more risk for an injury, it’s pretty wild that Wallace, D Jackson and M Jackson all came here and basically missed four of their combined five seasons here, not to mention other injuries. And Covid obviously helped make a bad cap situation a disaster. 

then it was just good luck we stayed healthy enough to win (and avoid Rodgers) the title. So howie doesnt get credit, it was just good luck.

50 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

While we’re all piling on AF, I have to admit that I agree to a certain extent that Howie ran into bad luck. While older players are more risk for an injury, it’s pretty wild that Wallace, D Jackson and M Jackson all came here and basically missed four of their combined five seasons here, not to mention other injuries. And Covid obviously helped make a bad cap situation a disaster. 

Yup. DeSean played ONE game in 2019...after crushing it against Washington. Malik Jackson looked really good in one game...then got hurt.

Brandon Brooks tore his achilles twice. Even younger players with no injury histories in college got hurt.

However, that doesn't forgive stupid decisions which were outlined at the time (Jeffrey extension, Hurts pick, not trading back for a WR in the draft, etc.).

6 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

then it was just good luck we stayed healthy enough to win (and avoid Rodgers) the title. So howie doesnt get credit, it was just good luck.

There is always some kind of luck involved when winning a SB, but we won the SB with our backup QB and left tackle. Howie built a great team that year and Doug, Reich and Flip were incredible. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yup. DeSean played ONE game in 2019...after crushing it against Washington. Malik Jackson looked really good in one game...then got hurt.

Brandon Brooks tore his achilles twice. Even younger players with no injury histories in college got hurt.

However, that doesn't forgive stupid decisions which were outline at the time (Jeffrey extension, Hurts pick, not trading back for a WR in the draft, etc.).

Exactly. This isn’t me giving Howie a pass, but there was some poor luck involved. No question. 

It's been a while:

Reagor sucks.

Have a good day, everybody!

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

While we’re all piling on AF, I have to admit that I agree to a certain extent that Howie ran into bad luck. While older players are more risk for an injury, it’s pretty wild that Wallace, D Jackson and M Jackson all came here and basically missed four of their combined five seasons here, not to mention other injuries. And Covid obviously helped make a bad cap situation a disaster. 

It's fine to acknowledge that we've had bad luck with injuries. However, that's entirely different than using injuries as a shield to deflect the obvious criticism of the current state of our roster. 

Howie could've picked better players, but the old coaching staff did a horrible job developing most of those picks. And whatever the hell Doug was doing that caused injury hell for 4 years in a row didn't help either.

29 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Football Team has 40 million in cap space.

Not sure how a team in our division with 80 million more in cap space  puts us at less of a competitive disadvantage.

I think the deals for free agents are going to push money down the road.  I just don't think we're going to see big deals for free agents.  Sure we are at a disadvantage compared to Washington but look at the Free Agent market and who is on that market that makes them a significantly better team. Dallas has not cap space if they franchise Dak largely because of the drop in the cap number.  The Giants have no real cap space and will likely have to cut and restructure some players they may otherwise have kept.  It's just not a great year for any team.  

9 minutes ago, Swoop said:

It's been a while:

Reagor sucks.

Have a good day, everybody!

Hot take: I think Reagor will have a better career than Maclin. 

11 hours ago, jsb235 said:

True story, Noriega flew to a meeting with the DEA in a plane given to him by Pablo Escobar. Say what you will about the guy, he had huevos.

I just finished a book by Escobar's first child - Noriega had many fingers in many pies at that time.  Looks like he was working with the British and Americans too, while doing stuff with the Cartels on the side.  While mucking about in his home country

Just now, Saltpeter said:

Howie could've picked better players, but the old coaching staff did a horrible job developing most of those picks. And whatever the hell Doug was doing that caused injury hell for 4 years in a row didn't help either.

Too much ice cream.  

2 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

Hot take: I think Reagor will have a better career than Maclin. 

Pretty low bar, but maybe.

1 hour ago, greend said:

We aren't in cap hell because of injury bad luck. 

If we don't sign Malik and Hargrave, we have a bottom five defense, you want to rotate Hector and Williams with Cox?

If Howie doesn't back load contracts we have to let 2-3 starters walk by 2019 and make no additions.

Now, if the Eagles were prepared to spend two years reloading, say go 7-9 in 2019 and 2020, they could have avoided cap hell, but that requires admitting the 2017 team had a short window, and walking away from contention. And I'm sure Wentz would have been happy to have Dillard start at LT as a rookie.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

D Jackson and Mike Wallace was not a surprise.  Everyone knew two old speedsters would breakdown eventually.  

Wallace had never been injured, speed receivers often play at an older age b/c they have less contact (got to catch them first). So he was certainly a surprise, DeSean not so much.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Remember that you just dismissed Goedert as a blocking TE the next time you refer to him as one of Howie’s all time best picks or one of the reasons our offense has good receiving weapons.

Nothing wrong with a blocking TE who can get you 500 yards a year. Witten is the ultimate blocking TE. Big part of a run game, and if they're a solid underneath target and can split the seams, even better. But you don't built an offense around Goedert.

People say run the ball, well, someone has to block to make that work, then they dismiss an all around TE b/c he doesn't get 800-1000 yards receiving.

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

D Jackson and Mike Wallace was not a surprise.  Everyone knew two old speedsters would breakdown eventually.  

Eventually, but not to the tune of missing basically all three of their seasons here. 

15 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

It's fine to acknowledge that we've had bad luck with injuries. However, that's entirely different than using injuries as a shield to deflect the obvious criticism of the current state of our roster. 

Yup. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

While we’re all piling on AF, I have to admit that I agree to a certain extent that Howie ran into bad luck. While older players are more risk for an injury, it’s pretty wild that Wallace, D Jackson and M Jackson all came here and basically missed four of their combined five seasons here, not to mention other injuries. And Covid obviously helped make a bad cap situation a disaster. 

He definitely came across some bad luck but we also had great luck in 2017.  Everything that needed to go right went right.  

A great GM needs to build his team that can adapt to both however.  

So the top 3 picks from this past year:

A complementary WR at best 

A running back who can also throw a bit 

A special teamer at best 

 

 

I can see why afan feverishly defends Howie.

Just now, bpac55 said:

He definitely came across some bad luck but we also had great luck in 2017.  Everything that needed to go right went right.  

A great GM needs to build his team that can adapt to both however.  

Even that year we had a crazy amount of injuries. That we won despite of them has nothing to do with luck.