50 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Charlie Ward was a dual threat QB in college too, he had a similar comp % his last year in college as Hurts did.  Why didn't you use him as a comp?  McNair sat his first year in Houston because............HE WAS A ROOKIE!!!!   Remember that concept?  Most rookie star qb's sat back then.  He played more his second season and had a 61% comp % (which is better than his career comp%)  with 1,100 yards. 

I am certain the accuracy difference between McNair and Hurts at college could possibly be chalked up to the fact that one played at Alabama and Oklahoma (Lincoln Riley offense) and the other played...........at ALCORN f-ing STATE!!!!  You acknowledged he had a stronger arm.  If you want to simply go by comp % in college then you can tell me how good Colt Brennan, Colt McCoy and Kellen Moore did in the NFL.  

The comparison of Hurts to McNair is really weak.    You can be as snarky as you want, Mr. Alcorn State expert, but it doesn't defend that ridiculous take.  

 

 

Colt Brennan was a one trick pony.  Colt McCoy is still in the NFL. Never projected him as a starter.  Over drafted but he was extremely accurate at college. You forgot Case Keenum and his records in college.  Also played his way onto teams.  Kellen Moore was just too small and not a strong arm but boy was he able to diagnose a defense and a great football IQ.  (College comp for Moore might be Buechele from SMU.  Little better arm but not the same level of football IQ). Pretty young for an OC.  Everyone saw him going to coaching even when he was in college.  You could see it when he talked about football.  Charlie Ward was a better basketball player than QB. So the NBA was an option.  Any player drafted into the NBA that opts for being a backup QB to mid level starter in the NFL is nuts.  The NBA guaranteed money is just too good. Are you seeing Ward as a comp for Hurts? I don’t.  

I grew up an Oiler fan.  While most of his playing time was with the Titans after Bud moved the team, McNair was drafted by the Houston Oilers.  So yeah, my Oiler fan friends and relatives watched some of his play in college and shared it with me. I have been a draft geek since my best friend and I would skip school and go down to the Adams Petroleum Building for the draft in high school and college. We were actually interviewed by the local sports radio a couple times because back in the seventies people didn’t attend the drafts.  So I am a little more knowledgeable on this question. I wasn’t being snarky but you made a definitive statement that I don’t think was based on watching McNair at Alcorn State.  We are talking college comps not NFL comps.  While I think the Eagles will run it more in 2021, I don’t think Sanders is a comp for Eddie George at either the college or pro level and I doubt Sirianni runs the Oilers/Titans offense from the 1990s.  

The comp for me, not meaning to talk for JR, is both McNair and Hurts have pretty good feet.  Both in running but also in moving around and in throwing stance. (One of my complaints with Carson was his wide stance and his tendency to plant his front foot a bit off.) Both McNair and Hurts did keep their eyes downfield and both in college tucked it and ran a little too quickly.  There are differences in their games. I think McNair had a stronger arm and I think Hurts is more accurate.  I am more than willing to hear why you think it is such an awful comp. 

2 hours ago, olsilverhair said:

I’m taking bo Callahan with the 6 pick

Or vontae Mack later

We all know you can relate since nobody shows up to your birthday party either sack breath!  

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Matt Ryan is a much better QB.  Much better arm.     And they drafted Matt Ryan because of the prospect he was.  Not because of his fit into Shanahan’s offense.  JFC. Are you dense? Anyone would draft Matt Ryan over Mac Jones.  Regardless of the offense.  😂

You’re insisting that Shanahan needs a QB with mobility while Ryan clearly had his best years under Shanahan and won an MVP. And it’s not like Jimmy G is really mobile. Maybe Jones does end up sucking, we don’t know. 
 

You pick the most petty things to argue about.

 

1 hour ago, matchew88 said:

What movie is this?

Hall Pass.  If you haven't seen, I HIGHLY recommend.  It's hilarious.  

 

He’s ready for Hurts

We also did request an interview

 

36 minutes ago, Solomon said:

I'm watching Kyle Trask now and I have to say so far he's my favorite QB. He makes NFL level throws every game. Navigates the pocket really well. Strong arm, accurate  and has nice touch. What's the general consensus on him? I like him more than Fields and Wilson. Lance I think still has the highest possible ceiling, but he's got the farthest to go before he's NFL ready. I could see Trask being ready to play by mid season.

The knock on him is his inability to create plays off script.  If 1st or 2nd read isn't there, he's not very fast and struggles to improvise.  I don't really get it either, because he looks awesome from what I've seen.  

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No. I’m not. You’re the one that mentioned the fit with Shanahan.  And I am saying that Shanahan has a preference.  And it’s not a slow statue like Mac Jones.  
 

Don’t like being challenged?   Go back to fascinating about Nick’s D.  

Yes don’t like being challenged by the big bad EMB tough guy. 
 

Any coach would prefer a QB to have mobility than not. Jones showed to be an accurate passer. That is the most important quality of a QB. It got guys like Chad Pennington and Colt McCoy who have no arm strength or athleticism long nfl careers. 
 

Shanahan is a very good coach and I think could get the most out of him the way he has Ryan and Cousins. If Steve Sark can make him a first round pick, I think Shanahan could make him an above average NFL QB and win games. I could be wrong. If I am, whatever Debra 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

Would you take the over/under of 62% for completions next year for Hurts?

Over.

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

Would you take the over/under of 62% for completions next year for Hurts?

Under but it’ll be close. I’m expecting a run heavy vanilla offense. 

 

Doubly ready for Hurts. 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

It's a little premature to say this will happen, but it's worth considering/preparing for the possibility.  Could we be nearing an era where NFL QB's, much like NBA superstars, hop from team to team at their whim to maximize their surrounding talent?

Brady set it in motion.  And now, like dominos, there is a collection of one-time (or present) franchise QB's barking back against coaches/owners and forcing trades to specific teams.  

 

I don’t know if Brady is the one who set it in motion as much as Wentz did. Brady was underpaid and under-appreciated for 19 years. Wentz threw a fit two years after signing a big contract and directly after having a horrific season. He wanted out and got it with zero pushback. Watson and Wilson now feel like they should be able to dictate their own path and rightfully so. 
 

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

Doubly ready for Hurts. 

Love the optimism from Reagor.  I guess in Sirianni's offense WRs don't have to run detailed or precise routes at all.  

First attempt ever. Not sure I like it.

24 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

He’s ready for Hurts

 

12 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

Doubly ready for Hurts. 

Glad to hear they are confident. They should be and they should be backing up Hurts. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  Hypothetical here.  Not saying it could/would/will happen.  Financially or theoretically.   What would it cost the Eagles to trade for Deshaun Watson. 
 

Again, just for ish and giggles.  So relax.  

2 firsts a third and Jalen Hurts.

OK, well this passed some time. I promise no more.

I don't buy for a second that Fulgham isn't a starting caliber player, and a possible high end one at that. My concern with him is that he's the type that doesn't play well until he absolutely has to, either to save his career or get a big contract (last year of deal wonder).

44 minutes ago, hputenis said:

We all know you can relate since nobody shows up to your birthday party either sack breath!  

How do you know about my breath, stink bug hpenis

3 minutes ago, greend said:

2 firsts a third and Jalen Hurts.

That might not get it done. I'd say 2021 1st, 2022 1st, 2022 Colts pick and Hurts might be enough. 

For the record, even if we could do that deal cap wise, I wouldn't. I think Watson is awesome, but someone will massively overpay if Houston moves him.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  Hypothetical here.  Not saying it could/would/will happen.  Financially or theoretically.   What would it cost the Eagles to trade for Deshaun Watson. 
 

Again, just for ish and giggles.  So relax.  

Considering Texans do not want to part with him I'd say a lot. The HC said in the beginning he went to Texans because of Watson

 

But if Watson ends up holding out then they may have to. It'll be interesting to see what happens and how it's approached

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  Hypothetical here.  Not saying it could/would/will happen.  Financially or theoretically.   What would it cost the Eagles to trade for Deshaun Watson. 
 

Again, just for ish and giggles.  So relax.  

#6, our 1st next year, then a 2nd in 2023.  I feel I'm coming in on the low end.  

1 minute ago, hputenis said:

#6, our 1st next year, then a 2nd in 2023.  I feel I'm coming in on the low end.  

you come in on the low end alot

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Considering Texans do not want to part with him I'd say a lot. The HC said in the beginning he went to Texans because of Watson

 

But if Watson ends up holding out then they may have to. It'll be interesting to see what happens and how it's approached

Leave it to the Texans to boner this entire thing up then be forced to trade him for much less right before the deadline midseason.  

I hear vontae mack is at the airport as I type this