5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The way TB uses their LB though, I think he would dominate with them but I do agree.  He has Pitt/Balt/NE alllll over him.

Any team that wants a A+ backer in coverage, and likes to blitz a lot will love him , I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in Tampa if  they don’t resign  Barrett 

 

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Decided to watch some LBs. Looks like a really good class. I’m intrigued by Cameron McGrone. Gannon has history with Zimmer, who loves A gap blitzes, and Leonard is a greater blitzer too in Indy. McGrone is incredible at blitzing. Great speed and able to slip around blockers. 

You just pointed out Alex Singletons biggest strength. That and his ability to plug the run gaps. 

I guess the key is how is McGrone's coverage skills which is the area that Alex lacks? 

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Im sure he would be a good blocker on the outside vs a much smaller CB that is covering him. Just another reason he would be a good fit on the outside as a WR then TE to me. 

21 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

You just pointed out Alex Singletons biggest strength. That and his ability to plug the run gaps. 

I guess the key is how is McGrone's coverage skills which is the area that Alex lacks? 

Singleton will turn 28 next season and won’t be relevant by the time we’re relevant again. I’m not letting him stop me from drafting a guy I think is a long term answer. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Singleton will turn 28 next season and won’t be relevant by the time we’re relevant again. I’m not letting him stop me from drafting a guy I think is a long term answer. 

I get that, didnt answer my question though on how his coverage skills are? If they are similar to Alex then he wouldn't be worth getting till a mid/late round since he would be more of a situational LB. Not sure what projection he is valued at by experts. 

3 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I get that, didnt answer my question though on how his coverage skills are? If they are similar to Alex then he wouldn't be worth getting till a mid/late round since he would be more of a situational LB. Not sure what projection he is valued at by experts. 

From what I’ve read he can be a three down player. I’m not at all interested in two-down players before mid to late day 3. 

10 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Singleton will turn 28 next season and won’t be relevant by the time we’re relevant again. I’m not letting him stop me from drafting a guy I think is a long term answer. 

Yep, there isn't a single LB on this roster that should make the Eagles think twice about drafting a LB.  Singleton is a nice story but he's not even close to a long-term answer at the position. 

In today's NFL, you don't draft run stoppers in the first two days, you can always find those guys later in the draft - to stay on the field you have to be an asset in pass coverage.

Theoretically I could see the Eagles decide to spend their resources on the perceived more valuable positions, but in Gannon’s previous two stops they spent second round picks on LBs (Kendricks and Leonard), and not to mention a tweener in Barr, whom the Vikings took in round 1. 

After Collins who I think is strictly a 34 guy , my next favorite backer  would be Derrick Barnes who is much more scheme diverse.

4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

After Collins who I think is strictly a 34 guy , my next favorite backer  would be Derrick Barnes who is much more scheme diverse.

I like Nick Bolton a lot but he is definitely on the smaller side.   He's listed at 6-0 230 but I'm guessing that's a stretch too.  Guy has instincts, hits and is fun to watch.  I'd like to move on from the smaller linebackers however.  Now, if he can play like Devin White then I have no issues. 

Are we writing off Taylor?  Granted, he was horrific as a rookie.  But you’ve got Singleton, who showed something last year, Taylor, and another draft pick in Bradley.  And only 2 LBs will be on the field for 90% of the snaps.

Its not hard to find a serviceable 4-3 LB on short notice...so on a team with 0 talent that historically doesn’t put much in the LB position, why invest much more in it right now?

I also think Dylan Moses is going to be a steal.  He had the ACL injury and didn't bounce back with the best year.  He's a flat out stud.  If they can get him in the 3rd I'd be thrilled.

25 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Theoretically I could see the Eagles decide to spend their resources on the perceived more valuable positions, but in Gannon’s previous two stops they spent second round picks on LBs (Kendricks and Leonard), and not to mention a tweener in Barr, whom the Vikings took in round 1. 

That doesn't necessarily mean anything though being that he was a secondary coach.

He may have liked some of the concepts and schemes that his defensive coordinators ran but, that doesn't mean he will value certain players the same or have have the same philosophy. 

28 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Are we writing off Taylor?  Granted, he was horrific as a rookie.  But you’ve got Singleton, who showed something last year, Taylor, and another draft pick in Bradley.  And only 2 LBs will be on the field for 90% of the snaps.

Its not hard to find a serviceable 4-3 LB on short notice...so on a team with 0 talent that historically doesn’t put much in the LB position, why invest much more in it right now?

I’m not writing Taylor off, but I’m looking for a long-term to answer at Mike, and Gannon’s previous two stops had two highly picked Pro Bowl quality LBs that were alphas in the back 7. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Are we writing off Taylor?  Granted, he was horrific as a rookie.  But you’ve got Singleton, who showed something last year, Taylor, and another draft pick in Bradley.  And only 2 LBs will be on the field for 90% of the snaps.

Its not hard to find a serviceable 4-3 LB on short notice...so on a team with 0 talent that historically doesn’t put much in the LB position, why invest much more in it right now?

Being that Taylor was kind of a project and the fact that he only played 32 snaps there is no way to tell what we have in him at all. 

So not sure why anyone would write him off when he basically didn't even play. 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

That doesn't necessarily mean anything though being that he was a secondary coach.

He may have liked some of the concepts and schemes that his defensive coordinators ran but, that doesn't mean he will value certain players the same or have have the same philosophy. 

I’m not saying for certain he will either, but I think it’s noteworthy. Until Gannon comes out and says otherwise or our actions say otherwise, I’m gonna use his previous stops as possible clues. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Are we writing off Taylor?  Granted, he was horrific as a rookie.  But you’ve got Singleton, who showed something last year, Taylor, and another draft pick in Bradley.  And only 2 LBs will be on the field for 90% of the snaps.

Its not hard to find a serviceable 4-3 LB on short notice...so on a team with 0 talent that historically doesn’t put much in the LB position, why invest much more in it right now?

Depends what you want.  Do you want serviceable or do you want impact making/game changing linebackers?  Singleton is 28 and while he flashed in 2020, how much of it was because the  rest were so bad.  He's a good player but I feel much better about him as a situational/role player.

I'm not writing off Davion Taylor but his rookie year was supposed to be him learning the position (horrible 3rd round value).  People got excited because he took a good angle on Lamar Jackson but otherwise he looked lost and like he didn't belong.  My hope for him is he becomes a ST ace.  His ceiling IMO is a Duke Riley type of player which isn't saying much.

Bradley looked OK, showed more than Taylor.  

Bottom line is that none of them show me enough.  We need better linebackers.  We need LB that impact games.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not saying for certain he will either, but I think it’s noteworthy. Until Gannon comes out and says otherwise or our actions say otherwise, I’m gonna use his previous stops as possible clues. 

I understand and I agree. I just don't want to get my hopes up and think he is gonna run his defense exactly like his last 2 stops and then pulls the ole switcharoo and runs it like bill Davis or Schwartz lol 

As far as LBs, I would wait to see how the existing guys on the roster adapt to the new scheme before spending a high pick on one. We know we have needs at corner and DE on the defense, and likely at DT. Burning a high pick on a linebacker when Singleton and Edwards might be really good in the new scheme seems foolish.

I’m not necessarily letting Davion Taylor stop me from upgrading the position, but I’m intrigued enough about his athletic profile that I’m willing to give him a year to learn on the job. If Gannon plays the same D as Eberflus, he would be playing the Leonard role. That’s obviously a huge role in the defense, and maybe it’s too important to leave to Taylor. I want him to sink or swim. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

From what I’ve read he can be a three down player. I’m not at all interested in two-down players before mid to late day 3. 

i like the kid from Northwestern as a late round two down backer

5 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

As far as LBs, I would wait to see how the existing guys on the roster adapt to the new scheme before spending a high pick on one. We know we have needs at corner and DE on the defense, and likely at DT. Burning a high pick on a linebacker when Singleton and Edwards might be really good in the new scheme seems foolish.

We've seen Edwards for 2 years.  New coaching isn't going to make him any better.  He's a limited athlete best suited for a backup/situational role.

Singleton is 28, far from a cornerstone piece.  He's a nice story, plays with fire and like Edwards is more than likely best used as a situational player.  

LB is a need just like all of the other positions you mentioned.  The Eagles are in bad shape with young talent. 

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

i like the kid from Northwestern as a late round two down backer

He has Eagles linebacker all over him, at least the old coaching staff.  Limited athlete but smart.  That's great and all but I want athletes that make plays and can change the course of a game.