26 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Someone will want to trade up to 6

 

14 minutes ago, downundermike said:

You and Howie in the same frame of mind when it comes to the draft.  No wonder he sucks at drafting.

It’s easy to not worry about the draft when you continuously always have a job and seemingly maneuver blame on bad picks to whoever is no longer here. 

14 minutes ago, DumbleBear said:

Are you still baking? 

I love how completely inconsistent everyone is! Oh I needed to watch this today thank you🙏

23 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The same as the rest of our defense has done the past few years.  

 

You know what I would love to do?  Throw the 3 first picks at one part of the team and make it a strength for the next 5 years.  Secondary or O Line.  I would prefer to trade down to do so.  I would normally say D line.  But it is a weak D line draft.  

I think people forget about Driscoll.  I think he moves to G.  We can get quality IOL depth later in this draft. I think we are good at T.  To not spend early on S in this draft would reek of another year where Howie thinks he is smarter than everyone else and proving he isn’t once again.

If the Eagles don't walk away from the 2021 draft with their FS of the future, I'll be disappointed.

Too many good prospects to not snag one this year.

 

48 minutes ago, downundermike said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/15/10-year-tv-deals-could-be-done-within-a-month/

 

Word is this might push the cap up to $200M.  

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/15/10-year-tv-deals-could-be-done-within-a-month/

 

Word is this might push the cap up to $200M.  

for this year? or next?

18 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/15/10-year-tv-deals-could-be-done-within-a-month/

 

Word is this might push the cap up to $200M.  

If it is this year, does that move us to 28.2 million over the cap ??

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

for this year? or next?

This year would be fantastic.

Last time I went heavy on weapons early. This time I decided to rebuild the OL and secondary. But obviously sprinkled in some pass catchers, because you have to.

I went with Slater as an OT. Leatherwood as an OT. Menet is a Center. 

2 rangy safeties. 

2 fast WRs

And an athletic TE who can block, and excellent RAC!

I probably coulda went elsewhere with the Marco Wilson pick because @ManuManu got my hopes up for Gareon Conley in FA. 

27 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Guy looks all natural.🙄

not sure I agree with Talib , he makes it sound like you can’t win with a pocket passer .
 

Co-hosting on SiriusXM NFL Radio recently, Talib was talking about defending mobile quarterbacks and permanent changes to the QB position when he referenced Brady out of nowhere.

"If you’re a sitting duck in that pocket, your last name better be Brady,” Talib said. "If it’s not, I don’t know if you fit in this league no more. Tom about the only guy who still look like a world champion sitting in that pocket. You know he’s not going to run and and he still can dice your team up.”

Kyle Rudolph released.  We're going to end up having to do the same with Ertz.  I'm far from a Howie hater but this is definitely a situation that he royally screwed up by not trading him last year when it should have been obvious where this was heading.

The end of western civilization is nigh.  The haplessly woke are trying to ruin science and math education. Consider the following from a pamphlet supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation regarding the teaching of math:

The recommendations proposed in this pamphlet are starting to be adopted by school boards throughout the country.

14 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

not sure I agree with Talib , he makes it sound like you can’t win with a pocket passer .
 

Co-hosting on SiriusXM NFL Radio recently, Talib was talking about defending mobile quarterbacks and permanent changes to the QB position when he referenced Brady out of nowhere.

"If you’re a sitting duck in that pocket, your last name better be Brady,” Talib said. "If it’s not, I don’t know if you fit in this league no more. Tom about the only guy who still look like a world champion sitting in that pocket. You know he’s not going to run and and he still can dice your team up.”

At the very least, you better have good pocket movement skills. I think Mac Jones has enough to get away with a lack of mobility. 

31 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If it is this year, does that move us to 28.2 million over the cap ??

This year would be fantastic.

And Howie is bailed out for all of his bad contracts giving Lurie another false sense of confidence in him.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

At the very least, you better have good pocket movement skills. I think Mac Jones has enough to get away with a lack of mobility. 

I agree , and I think Mac has a very nice career , if he lands with one of a handful of teams .

as for mobile QBs , I think mond ends up a nice QB

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok.  I’ll try it a different way.  Why don’t you think they’ll be able to trade back?  What leads you to that thought?  
 

Also. Outside Sewell and Lawrence.  There is no "blue chipper” in this draft.  It would be wise to move down if you can.  

Part of it is your last point. It's a weak top heavy draft. If it's weak top heavy that means there is a limited pool of prospects teams would want to actually trade up for. Because there isn't a stud CB/DE/LT outside of Sewell, the top guys or positions like QB, that teams might trade up for, could be gone by #6. 

Part of it is if there is a team, lets say the Panthers, that do want to trade up for Fields. They could see the Eagles two spots ahead of them who in their mind might go QB, so they decide to jump them and trade with the Bengals. This would effectively take a prospect off the board as well as a team willing to move up. This is much more speculative though, just a scenario I could see happening. 

Long story short, in my opinion, I think the top 5 in one way or another in no particular order will be 3QB's, Sewell, Chase or Pitts. If that happens, that to me would be a big blow in trying to trade back. Lance is there but I just don't know how willing a team would be to trade up for a guy so raw whose not even expected to play right away. He seems like a QB a team might take if he falls or a small move up to the teens, not necessarily a guy you go all in on. Besides him it's maybe Chase, likely Pitts. Maybe a team would trade up for Chase, I'm not buying into the Pitts hype enough to think a team trades up for him at #6. 

I'm not saying it can't or won't happen, or that I wouldn't. I just think it will be harder to do so while getting fair compensation. If the board was like last year when you have 3 QB's, 3 LT's and Young, Okudah, Brown I would say it would be fairly simple to trade back. This draft looks like the polar opposite of last year. 

7 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Why would QB be ridiculous? 

To me it’s unplanned for not to mention you are probably getting the 4th QB off the board. 6 is too high a pick for leftovers. As I feel it’s too early to give up on Dillard I feel the same way about Hurts, he’s the devil I don’t know but it seems others do

31 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

The end of western civilization is nigh.  The haplessly woke are trying to ruin science and math education. Consider the following from a pamphlet supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation regarding the teaching of math:

The recommendations proposed in this pamphlet are starting to be adopted by school boards throughout the country.

There is A LOT of this nonsense going on.  Regardless of your feelings on 45 the woke floodgates were ripped open with the new administration.  This stuff is normal now.  I suggest you look at the 8 white identities or brush up on the the LinkedIn trainings Coca-Cola and many companies are using...or the fact that on National Reading Day, Dr. Seuss's Birthday, 6 of his books were pulled from the shelves and were also stopped from being printed. 

It's scary that this is now normal.

Sorry, this response belongs in CVON but it's ridiculous. 

8 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

how would you feel about Slater as a guard? Brooks is injury riddled and it lets you slide Seumalo into center when Kelce hangs it up

If anything happens to Brooks, we have Herbig. Before trying to move Seumalo to C, I think a long look at Juriga is needed. The coaches liked him last year as the backup. He (like every other rookie) was deprived of preseason games, so we really didn't get much of a look at him in a game, since Kelce is so tough. 

To answer your question a little better, I feel O-line is the least of our worries and that we should address defense in the 1st round. My preference is to draft a CB that can come in and play opposite Slay and learn from him, study him and get what they can from having him here. I'm not sure how long Slay will remain an Eagle, so filling 1 CB position with a player capable of starting from day 1 can really help this team the most, IMO. Jacquet had some highs and lows in our defense in limited opportunities last season. I'd like to see the team try to develop him, but he needs time and shouldn't be thrust into a starting position. After Slay and Jacquet, we don't even have an outside CB on the roster. I'm not opposed to trading down a couple spots if we go CB with our 1st pick, but I also wouldn't overreact if we picked Surtain or Farley at #6. I'm less about where a player was drafted (draft position) and more about the player making the team better. 

47 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Last time I went heavy on weapons early. This time I decided to rebuild the OL and secondary. But obviously sprinkled in some pass catchers, because you have to.

I went with Slater as an OT. Leatherwood as an OT. Menet is a Center. 

2 rangy safeties. 

2 fast WRs

And an athletic TE who can block, and excellent RAC!

I probably coulda went elsewhere with the Marco Wilson pick because @ManuManu got my hopes up for Gareon Conley in FA. 

Was Sewell already taken or do you like Slater better?

31 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

not sure I agree with Talib , he makes it sound like you can’t win with a pocket passer .
 

Co-hosting on SiriusXM NFL Radio recently, Talib was talking about defending mobile quarterbacks and permanent changes to the QB position when he referenced Brady out of nowhere.

"If you’re a sitting duck in that pocket, your last name better be Brady,” Talib said. "If it’s not, I don’t know if you fit in this league no more. Tom about the only guy who still look like a world champion sitting in that pocket. You know he’s not going to run and and he still can dice your team up.”

Brady has no problem with throwing it away or just taking a sack. And with the new rules you can get a penalty pretty easy with hitting Brady. Lots of the QBs in this league want to extend the play. Brady is pretty much the definition of taking what the defense gives you

3 minutes ago, The guy in France said:

To me it’s unplanned for not to mention you are probably getting the 4th QB off the board. 6 is too high a pick for leftovers. As I feel it’s too early to give up on Dillard I feel the same way about Hurts, he devils I don’t know but it seems others do

Fair enough. I'm full on rebuild mode where no one's spot is safe and no scenario besides RB is off the table. I think you have to keep the QB option open and do your due diligence on them in case something weird/unpredictable. If Wilson falls to #6 and in your research you think he's the next star, I don't think its ridiculous at all to take him. It will be a QB controversy, sure. But Hurts isn't going to die. He'll still have his chance to prove his worth in camp. 

13 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So if there are no blue chip  non-qbs worthy of other teams wanting to trade up then that supports my thought that we would be wise to try and trade down with a team that will want to reach for a QB. QB’s are overvalued every year.  This year won’t be different.  There is not a player in this draft that isn’t a a QB or Sewell worth picking in the top 6.  Again. Teams will trade up for a QB and we should be ready and willing to trade down. 

Like I said, I'm not saying or advocating it wouldn't be wise to trade down and pick up more assets. It's probably the smartest thing a team like the Eagles could do. Problem is you need at least one other team to make a fair offer. If a team want's to trade up for Lance and is giving up something fair, then go for it. If Fields does drop to #6 then everything I wrote before gets thrown out the window and I think they have a good shot to trade.