So reports are that the Eagles want a 3rd or 4th for Ertz.  

If the recent restructures allow them to keep Ertz for 2021, they might as well do so.  Hurts has no one else to throw to and jacking up Ertz' stats for 2021 could get them a 4th round comp pick.  

If any teams are motivated to trade for him, the Eagles should encourage 2022 draft picks.  

Just now, blindside said:

My thing is.. what do we do with Dallas Goedert? He’s a pretty good TE. Do we plan on keeping him? 
 

At pick 6, Kyle Pitts keeps coming up. I am torn on him. As a receiving prospect, he’s as good as any in this draft, but he’s not a TE. If we spend that pick on him, we can’t re-sign Goedert for what his market value will be, because he’ll be a "2nd TE” again. And if we get Pitts, do we even have enough WRs to play the outside? Fulgham maybe was a flash in the pan, but his numbers only went down when Alshon came back and took his snaps. With Wentz, Fulgham was great. Can Jalen Hurts make the throws to utilize him. Will Reagor take the next step? Can we afford to add a FA? 
 

Between Chase and Smith, it’s a toss up to me. Smith is the technician and Chase is the size/athleticism guy. But he hasn’t played in a year. On the surface, it makes sense to go with Goedert and one of those guys at 6, but given our cap situation, it may make sense to go with Pitts and let Goedert walk next year. 

Pitts is only worth it if he can be an X WR.  If he's going to be used like Ertz and Goedert is going to be used as before, it's a tremendous waste.  IMO, it's that simple.

If you draft Pitts at 6 to be Ertz, Goedert will walk.  Then you are left in need of ANOTHER TE one year later to come in and block.  So we'd have invested our 2018 top pick in a TE, #6 overall, and ANOTHER 2022 draft pick in TE.  That's absurd.

Either Pitts is an X, or he can't be drafted here.

It doesn't take the sharpest tool in the shed to be a CEO either. It takes someone with the right connections, who's good at selling himself, doesn't screw up and is with the right company at the right time (or has the right roommate in college). Brilliant people are few and far between. There are more competent people, but most are a dime a dozen. If CEOs were that unique, we wouldn't see so many companies get screwed up by management.

And Harvard MBAs are the worst, never heard so many bad cliches thrown around than in a management consulting firm I worked at for a few years. And having read enough McKinsey reports, they do a much better job selling the sizzle than the steak.

The hard part is finding the few people who are really good at what they do, not just good at promoting their run of the mill talent.

But that's the norm everywhere, most people are functionally competent, within 2 standard deviations of the mean, it's just as you climb the ladder, that distribution starts with a higher level of mediocrity (which is not a knock, mediocre basically means in the middle, i.e. not special).

So it stands to reason the NFL is no different. Harder to measure individual outputs, easier to measure group outputs (wins and losses).

4 minutes ago, blindside said:

My thing is.. what do we do with Dallas Goedert? He’s a pretty good TE. Do we plan on keeping him? 
 

At pick 6, Kyle Pitts keeps coming up. I am torn on him. As a receiving prospect, he’s as good as any in this draft, but he’s not a TE. If we spend that pick on him, we can’t re-sign Goedert for what his market value will be, because he’ll be a "2nd TE” again. And if we get Pitts, do we even have enough WRs to play the outside? Fulgham maybe was a flash in the pan, but his numbers only went down when Alshon came back and took his snaps. With Wentz, Fulgham was great. Can Jalen Hurts make the throws to utilize him. Will Reagor take the next step? Can we afford to add a FA? 
 

Between Chase and Smith, it’s a toss up to me. Smith is the technician and Chase is the size/athleticism guy. But he hasn’t played in a year. On the surface, it makes sense to go with Goedert and one of those guys at 6, but given our cap situation, it may make sense to go with Pitts and let Goedert walk next year. 

Goedert and Pitts are totally different players with different roles.

Goedert is a true TE, plus blocker, plus receiver but he's not going to challenge defenses.

Pitts is a hybrid H-back/WR, he's not a TE, while he can block on the second level, you don't put him in line to block a DE (Eagles have tried that with Ertz and it was butt ugly).

So both can co-exist with no problem.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

 

And Harvard MBAs are the worst, never heard so many bad cliches thrown around than in a management consulting firm I worked at for a few years. And having read enough McKinsey reports, they do a much better job selling the sizzle than the steak.

 

Might be the most I have ever agreed with one of your posts.  Twice in 2 weeks now.

44 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Sorry Zach but Howie needs to spend his time getting under the cap while hanging on to you.  

Honestly I had a feeling they wouldnt release him. They can find ways to get the cap down better then releasing him. Forces teams to make a deal or Eagles wait it out and get a comp pick in 2022. 

30 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So reports are that the Eagles want a 3rd or 4th for Ertz.  

If the recent restructures allow them to keep Ertz for 2021, they might as well do so.  Hurts has no one else to throw to and jacking up Ertz' stats for 2021 could get them a 4th round comp pick.  

If any teams are motivated to trade for him, the Eagles should encourage 2022 draft picks.  

More then likely they know if they wait it out and let him go next year they will get a 3rd or 4th round comp pick in 2022. 

In the end the ball is in the Eagles court. They have the moves to make to keep him if they want. If he plays great, teams will have to pay up next year in his new contract. Teams should want to give up that 4th and maybe get a discount this year in his contract. 

Only a 3rd or 4th for Ertz? That sucks. 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

F Drew Brees and the Saints. 

F Sean Payton and the Saints. But I like Brees

We will be lucky if we get a 5th for Ertz.  Howie f'ed that one up a year or so ago.

Taysom Hill 4 years $140 mil??? Thought it was a joke. 

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Taysom Hill 4 years $140 mil??? Thought it was a joke. 

rumor is its a voidable contract so he will never see a major chunk of that money

 

16 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Taysom Hill 4 years $140 mil??? Thought it was a joke. 

9 million signing bonus, everything else is voidable, so it's basically a 1 year 9 million dollar deal which I guess isn't bad for a back up qb that plays special teams, WR TE and RB.

It’s basically a 1 year 12 million dollar deal , spread out

5 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

rumor is its a voidable contract so he will never see a major chunk of that money

 

Reminds me of when eagles re signed vick to s 100 million dollar contract, 

Looks good on the news stream until one breaks it down and realized 90% of the contract is voidable.

Mickey Loomis should be banned for trolling 

21 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

It’s basically a 1 year 12 million dollar deal , spread out

Sean Payton's hubris never ceases to amaze me. Top 3 NFL mind, all-time level ego.

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

Obviously you’re too stupid to understand that if you only interview people you personally know, as opposed to the much broader candidate pool of coaches, you’re less likely to find the best candidate.

But that’s not surprising because you also couldn’t stop slurping the worst QB in the league in Carson Wentz.

Someone who worships failure like you wouldn’t understand the first thing about maximizing performance.

What is the broader pool for NFL coaches?  Soccer coaches?   Classically trained French Chef's?  Or people like you who blow hard but can't answer a simple question?

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

What is the broader pool for NFL coaches?  Soccer coaches?   Classically trained French Chef's?  Or people like you who blow hard but can't answer a simple question?

I'm gonna say that I think a classically trained french chef might not know his xs and Os but could probably make one hell of a smoothie 💪

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

It doesn't take the sharpest tool in the shed to be a CEO either. It takes someone with the right connections, who's good at selling himself, doesn't screw up and is with the right company at the right time (or has the right roommate in college). Brilliant people are few and far between. There are more competent people, but most are a dime a dozen. If CEOs were that unique, we wouldn't see so many companies get screwed up by management.

And Harvard MBAs are the worst, never heard so many bad cliches thrown around than in a management consulting firm I worked at for a few years. And having read enough McKinsey reports, they do a much better job selling the sizzle than the steak.

The hard part is finding the few people who are really good at what they do, not just good at promoting their run of the mill talent.

But that's the norm everywhere, most people are functionally competent, within 2 standard deviations of the mean, it's just as you climb the ladder, that distribution starts with a higher level of mediocrity (which is not a knock, mediocre basically means in the middle, i.e. not special).

So it stands to reason the NFL is no different. Harder to measure individual outputs, easier to measure group outputs (wins and losses).

Harvard lawyers are worse than their MBAs.  I had more than several defend me in depositions.  Bloody awful.

1 hour ago, WentzFan11 said:

Only a 3rd or 4th for Ertz? That sucks. 

30+ TE on a one year contract who sucked last year because he wants a significant raise. 

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

A. It does not take a half dozen draft picks to replace a RB. That’s just silly nonsense. 
 

B. DeMarco Murray was stupid and half the fans saw that from the beginning. And it was stupid because you are paying a RB top dollar. Which is the entire point. Don’t pay a RB top dollar. 
 

C. People wanted an upgrade over Smallwood and Adams. No one was clamoring for an Ezekiel Elliott or Barkley. 
 

D. Why the hell would you pay top 3 RB money to just be a rotational role?

A. 2016 drafted Smallwood in the 5th round.  2017 drafted Pumphrey in 4th round.  Spent a 4th round pick acquiring Jay Ajai in 2017.   Then they spent a 6th round pick trading for Jordan Howard.  Then a 2nd round pick drafting Sanders.  That's 5 draft picks.   And you can even add the additional assets/resources spent (Money acquiring free agents, time, etc etc) 

Do you risk doing all of the above over again, over the course of 5 years or do you find a way to keep the guy?

 

B. I agree about Murray.  

C. People wanted a bonafide #1 RB.   And who wouldn't after what happened in 2018?  We were signing people off the street to play RB. 

D. You wouldn't and that's the point.   The Eagles will in all likelihood go with some sort of RB rotation.  I invision Sanders getting the types of touches Westbrook received..meaning he'll probably end up with 800-1200 yards rushing and another 300-600 yards receiving.   Sanders also isn't a "goal line" carrier...I doubt he will put up the same type of rushing TD's numbers that Jones put up.  (8 in 2018, 16 in 2019, 9 in 2020) Average of 11 rushing TD's over the past 3 seasons.  

If Sanders continues to perform at a high level but in a "rotational" role, with less rushing TD's then some of the other top backs, he'll likely still demand a decent payday but probably not "top RB 3" money level.  And if he does demand 'top 3" RB money that means he likely played at a "Pro-Bowl" level.  Good problem to have, imo.  

So what time does legal tampering start?

1 minute ago, goeagles5039 said:

So what time does legal tampering start?

 

Free agency starts at 4 pm on the 17th so I'm thinking 4 pm tomorrow.  

19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I'm gonna say that I think a classically trained french chef might not know his xs and Os but could probably make one hell of a smoothie 💪

Would that be maximizing potential?