6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yeah, cause every free agent is over 30.  Your loyalty to the worst GM in the NFL is comical at best.

Any free agent who is in his prime years and an above average starter costs $10+M a year.

Those are the guys you add in the winter of 2023 once you've amassed enough young talent and had a year or two to coach it up.

In 2016 they had enough talent to reload and go for it for a few years, but that also meant a rebuild was inevitable. Because these guys were going to be past their prime by 2020. So he added Brooks, Bradham, Jenkins, McLeod, traded for Darby and Jerrigan in 2017, and signed then extended Jeffrey. Then patched holes with players like Blount, Smith, Wisniewski, etc. The core players in 2016:  Peters (34), Kelce (29), Lane (26), Ertz (26), Graham (28), Cox (26), Hicks (24), Kendricks (26), Agholor (23).

The gamble on Wentz was based on that 4 year window, get a young franchise QB (he would probably have traded for a top veteran QB if one was available) that can carry the team to the top in a couple years. Then rebuild around that QB down the road.

So hopefully after the next two drafts, we'll have a core of players 22-25 you can then add 3-4 FAs in 2023 who are 25-27 years old and have an extended window.

 

14 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think you need a big receiver at either position.  I mean the team thrived with Jackson and Maclin.  Smith can play the X or Z.  He is an elite receiver that can get open.  I think Reagor could also play the X but he has to work on his route running.  I think the same can be said for Waddle and Reagor together.  The team just needs receivers that can get open and catch the ball.  

Sirianni has a history of working with big WRs, Allen in SD, Pascal and Pittman in Indy.

So I think he'll want at least one in the mix here, he'll see if he can salvage JJAW and get more out of Fulgham, but I'd also expect them to load up on big WRs and TEs late in the draft/UDFA, following the Indy model.

2 hours ago, Original Sin said:

The #Bears reportedly offered this for Russell Wilson, via

@dpshow

: • 3 1st-round picks • 3rd-round pick • 2 veteran starters

Wow. How is Bears Oline? That as really the biggest complaint Wilson has had. Doubt he'd be happy to go to a team with no Oline again

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So hopefully after the next two drafts, we'll have a core of players 22-25 you can then add 3-4 FAs in 2023 who are 25-27 years old and have an extended window.

Are you aware your idol sucks at drafting.

2015 draft, no one still on the roster

2016 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2017 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2018 draft, 5 players still on the roster

2019 draft, 3 players still on the roster.

10 of 32 players still on the roster.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Wow. How is Bears Oline? That as really the biggest complaint Wilson has had. Doubt he'd be happy to go to a team with no Oline again

Bears are one of the teams Wilson said he would except trade to .

15 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

I'm totally fine with sitting out free agency this year and frankly next year as well.  Sure it will suck to be non-competitive for the next two years but we've honestly had a pretty great run dating back to the Reid years.  I'm cool with a two-year step back to hopefully set up another 15+ year run of competitiveness.  Now whether Howie is the right guy for this rebuild time will tell but its not like him trying to build a contender this year is a better option.

 Given that we need help just about everywhere there's really no point to signing anyone right now.  Go the draft, take true BPA (since the BPA will almost invariably be a position of need anyway) and rinse and repeat next year.  At that point, we'll have plenty of cap space to go on a free agent spending spree to acquire whatever we missed through the drafts.

I think there's little evidence that things like rebuilding years tend to lead to sustained winning cultures.  I don't think they should make a push for any high priced FA but there's something to be said for filling gaps with younger players with potential upside. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think there's little evidence that things like rebuilding years tend to lead to sustained winning cultures.  I don't think they should make a push for any high priced FA but there's something to be said for filling gaps with younger players with potential upside. 

Like 25 year old Safety John Johnson who signed a very reasonable contract.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Are you aware your idol sucks at drafting.

2015 draft, no one still on the roster

2016 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2017 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2018 draft, 5 players still on the roster

2019 draft, 3 players still on the roster.

10 of 32 players still on the roster.

I’m down for a baseball fantasy league as long as it’s free. Not sure i want to dive into a pay baseball league as it’s way too long of a season for me to be as active as FF

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I think there's little evidence that things like rebuilding years tend to lead to sustained winning cultures.  I don't think they should make a push for any high priced FA but there's something to be said for filling gaps with younger players with potential upside. 

But generally speaking, young players with potential upside cost a lot of money.  I'm not suggesting that rebuilding leads to a winning culture.  I'm saying that rebuilding correctly sets you up for sustained success if you do it right, including acquiring players that will set the winning culture.  The point about our run was more that we've had it pretty good for most of the last two decades so I can accept taking a step back for a year or two.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m down for a baseball fantasy league as long as it’s free. Not sure i want to dive into a pay baseball league as it’s way too long of a season for me to be as active as FF

That makes 3.  Jump in the fantasy section and reply to my thread.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Like 25 year old Safety John Johnson who signed a very reasonable contract.

It honestly feels that you're just looking for something to complain about.  Let's say we signed Johnson to the same three year contract he signed.  Most of us accept that we're not going to be very good for the next two years.  So we have Johnson signed to a reasonable contract for two non-competitive years and then we have one more year on the deal as we start emerging from the rebuild.  What exactly does that accomplish?  

3 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

It honestly feels that you're just looking for something to complain about.

You don't have to look hard.  Howie's constant failings at drafting and roster construction, as well as cap management has set the Eagles back years.  We are looking at a very bleak future with the current leadership.  Good thing he got lucky in 2017.

I wasn’t expecting much, but I’m hoping we’re able to carve out enough room to get 2-3 decent buy-low or prove-it players, not just veteran minimum types. 

I like him. 

Just now, downundermike said:

You don't have to look hard.  Howie's constant failings at drafting and roster construction, as well as cap management has set the Eagles back years.  We are looking at a very bleak future with the current leadership.  Good thing he got lucky in 2017.

You always just quote one line from my post and ignore the substance.  Do you have a response to what signing Johnson to a three year deal would have accomplished other than requiring us to move more salary into future years and prevent us from rolling over any unused space in the next two years?  

Like I get that doubling down on the Super Bowl team didn't work out and was a bad move.  But at some point are you going to pivot to talking about what the team is or can be doing now or just continue wallowing in mistakes from four years ago?

Cardinals WR group: Hopkins, Fitzgerald, A.J Green, 

Okay I'm a little jelly.

 

Just now, Iggles25 said:

Cardinals WR group: Hopkins, Fitzgerald, A.J Green, 

Okay I'm a little jelly.

 

If this was 2010-2014 I’d be jealous of those two. Both of those guys are nowhere close to what they were and Fitzgerald still might retire 

18 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wow. How is Bears Oline? That as really the biggest complaint Wilson has had. Doubt he'd be happy to go to a team with no Oline again

 

Bears were one of the teams that Wilson named that he would like to go to. 

21 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Are you aware your idol sucks at drafting.

2015 draft, no one still on the roster

2016 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2017 draft, 1 player still on the roster

2018 draft, 5 players still on the roster

2019 draft, 3 players still on the roster.

10 of 32 players still on the roster.

You know the 2015 draft was Chip.

2016 and 2018 drafts were truncated due to Wentz and trades, but it got them to the SB.

no 2nd or 4th in 2016, no 1st or 3rd in 2018, 2017 was a bad draft, 2018 a great draft, too early to know about 2019 and 2020.

And saying 10 of 26 is meaningless, since 9 picks in the top 100, 5 picks 100-150, 12 of those 28 picks were 5th rd or later.

Of the 9, Wentz worked out, started 5 seasons, a SB and hopefully a 1st and 3rd in return, Goedert, Seumalo and Sanders are good value, JJAW and Jones were misses. Douglas at #99 was marginal.

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Like 25 year old Safety John Johnson who signed a very reasonable contract.

3 yrs/$33M, who turned down higher offers to sign with the Browns.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/16/agents-john-johnson-iii-turned-down-higher-offers-to-sign-with-browns/

So he wasn't coming here in any case.

What could go wrong?

A little over an hour until we fully guarantee Barnetts $10M

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

A little over an hour until we fully guarantee Barnetts $10M

Will we get a Howie and Lurie press conference after the Wentz trade officially goes through today? 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Will we get a Howie and Lurie press conference after the Wentz trade officially goes through today? 

As long as it’s not Siri. 

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

What could go wrong?

Who did we draft with the comp pick we got for cutting him?