Just now, austinfan said:

I doubt public speaking is a major element of success as a HC. Makes the local media happy to pump up some slick sounding coach until he falls flat on his face.

I think anyone who's worked in a large corporation, consulting firm or law firm has had the experience of interacting with people who sound great, but are less filling.

Public speaking helps, but Bill Belichick in comparison to innumerable failed but highly eloquent HC's is proof positive that it doesn't really matter for a HC.  It just paves their road a bit.

Just now, austinfan said:

I doubt public speaking is a major element of success as a HC. Makes the local media happy to pump up some slick sounding coach until he falls flat on his face.

I think anyone who's worked in a large corporation, consulting firm or law firm has had the experience of interacting with people who sound great, but are less filling.

I think it is about comfort zones...as an old HS ball coach, I was very comfortable in the locker room  with my interactions...but put me in front of a 100 of my peers and it is a different experience all together...I don't think how he comes across in public necessarily projects to his coaching ability and his relationships with the players...he deserves a fair chance 

Negotiating through the media!

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

 

Fox news is known to cause brain damage, or does it merely appeal to damaged brains. Take that crap elsewhere.

Just remember to keep it out yourself.

15 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

That's all well and fine, but who is the next Arcega-Whiteside?

Me, minus the height. But I can catch.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I have little interest in criticizing Sirianni right now.  Yes, he sounds like a moron, but again, he's a football coach, not an engineer.  Yes, I think Lowie hired him because he was the most enthusiastic, wide-eyed, controllable option that had been somewhat vetted by the rigors of the NFL...and I think that is a recipe for disaster.

But that's all background and not intrinsic to whatever Sirianni is or is not as our new HC.  This isn't like a WR that we can bash based on their workouts or film from college.  

We know nothing about who he is or what he's capable of.  After kickoff in week 1 2021, we can start to nitpick.  Right now, I don't even know what to say about him.  Give him a chance.  

I can answer that question better after we find out who Howie drafts in April.

And who could they have hired who wasn't controllable? Who had that kind of track record (multiple PO appearances, a SB appearance)?.

McD? Only b/c he's a total a-hole, after falling flat on his face in Denver, he should be happy to defer to a GM, any GM.

Smith, Saleh? You think these neophytes have any control? Every HC gets input, only the proven guys get a veto over personnel.

Meyer? You'd want him to have any control?

Point is control had nothing to do with Sirianni's hiring. They were obviously impressed with his interview, they interviewed Smith but didn't do a full court press to keep him.

I think it simply came down to their being committed to a full rebuild, when coaching candidates came in and claimed to have a magic elixir to turn it around (as Doug wanted to) they probably rolled their eyes. Sirianni probably had a plan for rebuilding and was realistic about what it was going to take, and suggested possible hires for a coaching staff that had success developing players, not formulating fancy schemes. And I'll bet that's what sold him, not his public speaking skills.

The next two years are about building up the talent base, 2023 is about building a team to compete - but first you have to hit critical mass.

6 minutes ago, greend said:

Me, minus the height. But I can catch.

That makes you ineligible to be the next JJAW, sorry

19 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Hurts is ours through 2023, so an extension kicks in 2024 (though some money can be rolled into 2023 if it's signed after his 3rd season).

The only guys who'll cost are Mailata, Sanders if they want him on a second deal, Sweat if his knee holds up and Goedert. Doubt the others will get a major second contract.

Reality is you might sign one major ($20M) and two second tier FAs ($10M) in 2023, there just aren't that many available quality starters age 25-27 available in any offseason - and you don't want to throw money at second rate guys like we've seen teams do every offseason.

It's a bigger problem in a rebuild to get up to the minimum salary levels, which is why some bad teams overpay for mediocre players - they have to spend the money somewhere.

Maybe Dillard.  I think after next season, he is extension eligible.  My guess is if that happens, it is during his fourth year.  

I think the parallel to Brett Brown is a good one.  What's most important in the short term is righting the ship and developing talent...not something I think was Doug's strong suit.  Whereas Doug was exactly what this team needed coming off of Chimp.

 

Maybe Nick will grow into the role along with the team, or maybe he won't and when the Eagles are ready for the next step, if he isn't there with them, he'll be replaced.  

 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Maybe Dillard.  I think after next season, he is extension eligible.  My guess is if that happens, it is during his fourth year.  

 

 

Adebo a 4.42 his first go 

Simi Fehoko: 4.39

4.66 for Mills  4.58 2nd run 

Simi Fehoko: 4.37 2nd go 

16 minutes ago, RLC said:

Negotiating through the media!

"Fair enough compensation ".  F him.   Eagles decide what they think fair compensation is, not any guy named Jones.  

19 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I have a pretty informal job interview/introduction with a grower/shipper tomorrow down by Fayetteville.  I am not sure I'm the right fit and to be honest, I think they need to sell me on the idea.  But I am still going to interview well because that's what professionals do.  People who interact with other professionals would need to be able to come across as.......well professional. 

 

No....I will not reference what my siblings have done in their job, because I love them.....

Yeah I recently had an interview for a burger flipper role. I was professional (put on my nicest Jean shorts) but my heart is at the fry station. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Exactly what I was thinking.  

 

Is it to big of a leap to hope and look forward to the day when Lurie decides to sell?

actually, as owners go, I'm fine with Jeffrey.  

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Exactly what I was thinking.  

 

Is it to big of a leap to hope and look forward to the day when Lurie decides to sell?

More than likely his wife takes over.

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

"Fair enough compensation ".  F him.   Eagles decide what they think fair compensation is, not any guy named Jones.  

Honestly tired of the players complaining lately. He still has 1 year on contract and is still (besides this 2020) playing well. Why get rid of him. F that. Make him play for a prove it contract then he can go sign with another team next season. Then we get a juicy comp pick back. No need to let go unless at least a good 4th.

16 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Well that's a big sigh of relief 

4 minutes ago, greend said:

More than likely his wife takes over.

Which one?

29 minutes ago, RLC said:

Negotiating through the media!

Funniest part about this is "gave his all". He gave his all for maybe 3 years. He was soft as baby ish until the fanbase called him out for letting wentz get crushed by burfict, then played like he actually cared up until last year where he so obviously checked out he might as well have just sat the entire season. 

Another one linked to the Eagles about to come off the board 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

  

Don't see it. He'll get more than they can pay and will go to NE or Chicago

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Exactly what I was thinking.  

 

Is it to big of a leap to hope and look forward to the day when Lurie decides to sell?

No, it's not too big of a leap.  What we have learned this offseason, that Lurie has been heavily involved and in fact has been behind most of the Eagles personnel moves, is beyond disturbing, and unfortunately explains a lot.

I am absolutely of the mindset that until he sells, or has enough of an epiphany to realize what he has done and make a change, the franchise will remain in poor shape.

It seems like many people are still focused on Roseman in terms of thinking he is a decision maker.  He isn't.  We know that now.  He is the face of Lurie's meddling, and Lurie's gopher/personal liaison to the rest of the league.  Listening to his pressers can give you an insight into the collective group-think, but make no mistake, the main driver of that is Lurie.  

Apparently, it's going to take more embarrassment than the Wentz situation at face value for Lurie to change.  If Carson bombs in Indy, but plays, the Eagles get a higher draft pick, which is good.  However, it might be better for the team in the long run if Carson plays really well and has a good rest of his career.  Lurie and his lackey will try to lay that off on "coaching," but it won't work.  The level of embarrassment will be there.  

Until Lurie sells the team, or steps back and empowers a real GM, the future does not look bright.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Well that's a big sigh of relief 

Which one?

Good question

5 minutes ago, devpool said:

Funniest part about this is "gave his all". He gave his all for maybe 3 years. He was soft as baby ish until the fanbase called him out for letting wentz get crushed by burfict, then played like he actually cared up until last year where he so obviously checked out he might as well have just sat the entire season. 

the next tackle he breaks will be his first

Just now, John_C said:

No, it's not too big of a leap.  What we have learned this offseason, that Lurie has been heavily involved and in fact has been behind most of the Eagles personnel moves, is beyond disturbing, and unfortunately explains a lot.

Huh. Haven't seen that one anywhere. Maybe a couple moves, like encouraging them to cut an aging player who wasn't picked up by any other teams when the Eagles were headed for a 3-13 season to add a young player. Rumors about JJAW. That's about it.