Me too, Kenny. Me too.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

A guy saying after the fact that his initial benching might be when he thought he was no longer the starter isn't some breaking news. 

Especially when the question was framed something like "When is the moment you thought you weren't going to be the starter in Philly anymore? Was it Green Bay?"

Eagles fans pride themselves on being tough, blue collar people, but the way that comment is being interpreted screams jilted middle school girlfriend.  With all of the crap that guy went through here on the field, with inept FO decisions, with the media, and with the "fans", its no wonder that thought went through his mind.  I thought his answer was truly honest, which should be commended. 

Also, this is why he never spoke...everything he says is shredded and disected to the Nth degree.

9 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The Me Too movement told us to believe the victims regardless of who the accused is.  Right?   Or has those rules changed now? There’s too much smoke.  

In a court of law, presumably the burden of proof is on the plaintiff.  The standard of proof is a preponderance of the evidence.  But presentation of other allegations against the defendant is not a given to be admitted.   It may be to show a pattern and practice but if there are not similarities then the presentation may be viewed as prejudicial to the defendant.  It is probable that the plaintiff firm has been advertising for similar victims.   Fits their M.O.   The veracity of each sides story in the view of a jury will be the determining factor, if it goes to trial.  Too often woman are blamed when they are victims but avoiding that should not translate into absolute belief of one side or the other especially in a court.  

Some players are wired at a higher level of compete than others.

I'd say Hurts is relative to Wentz, but no QB relative to Brady.

It won't make you successful, but it'll make you as good as you can possibly be.

Wentz reminds me of McNabb, in that McNabb wasn't obsessive when it came to perfecting his skills, it's not that he didn't work, he just didn't go the extra mile.

12 minutes ago, metal said:

Me too, Kenny. Me too.

I'm holding out for $20

This is so boring. Isn’t there a backup LB/special teamer to sign?

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

It's interesting.  Tommy Lawlor wrote about this today and I've never seen him write something to this effect.

 

Really weak stuff. Wentz got benched and started to think that might be the end of his time in Philly? Randall Cunningham was benched in 1992 and was the starting QB for the next three years.

In the other video, Wentz says "I’ve never once questioned my competitiveness.” What the hell does that mean? No one is asking whether you think you are competitive. Your actions told the world you didn’t want to compete.

Weak.

Part of me wants to wish him well. I like Frank Reich and plenty of Colts players. It is easy to pull for them.

Another part of me wants Indy to turn into a disaster. This is petty me, the scorned fan who wants Wentz to rue the day he ever turned his back on the City of Brotherly Love. Wear that stupid cammo sleeve, go 0-16 and lead the league in picks. Then demand a trade to wherever Doug Pederson is a year from now and explain that he was your favorite coach all along and you just didn’t know it.

We’ll see what happens. It would be a lot easier to forgive and forget if the Eagles didn’t look so bad on paper.

This is just his macho man defensive posturing.  It's his ego speaking. This is the statement he always reverted to in his Philly PC's, too. "I'm competitive" was really just an excuse for being a stubborn loser who could never accept any blame or accountability for poor performance. Wentz doesn't really know what being competitive is. He thinks he does, but in reality, it's just a sense of entitlement for him. "I'm competitive" means "I always think I'm right and think I deserve the spotlight, so I never question myself, yield to authority, or consider anyone else's perspective." He has zero self-awareness. Someone who's actually competitive is apt to look in the mirror from time to time and embraces the root of that word: competition. At the first sign of it, he wilted.

5 hours ago, Original Sin said:

BigE , I mentioned Williams awhile back from La tech , you weren’t a fan of his , you see his numbers he put up yesterday? And I think his play matches , him along with McNeil and Turner are 3 of my favorite DL .

 

Height: 6'3

Weight: 284

Arm: 31.5

40: 4.62 and 4.65

VJ: 38.5"

BJ: 10'1"

3-cone: 6.87

Short shuttle: 4.25 and 4.33

Good numbers.  Just no real moves that I can see.  If his speed didn’t get him there, I thought he tended to get tied up by the blockers a bit too easy.   Raw.  He needs to more weight to play in the NFL at DT.  He is kind of the DT version of Elesor Smith.  The clay looks good but the refinement is to be seen.  Good third day picks but because of the lack of quality in DL prospects this year, they may both be over drafted. Should not come off the boards earlier than the fifth because of the refinement needed. 

2 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

Justin Fields said 40 time now 4.41 and hopes to be in 4.3's come pro day.  That change anything for anyone?

Is he a receiver?

Cheap. 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Who you guys got for low seeds getting to the final four ??  I am looking at San Diego St and UConn.

Toronto thunder thighs?

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

It's interesting.  Tommy Lawlor wrote about this today and I've never seen him write something to this effect.

 

Really weak stuff. Wentz got benched and started to think that might be the end of his time in Philly? Randall Cunningham was benched in 1992 and was the starting QB for the next three years.

In the other video, Wentz says "I’ve never once questioned my competitiveness.” What the hell does that mean? No one is asking whether you think you are competitive. Your actions told the world you didn’t want to compete.

Weak.

Part of me wants to wish him well. I like Frank Reich and plenty of Colts players. It is easy to pull for them.

Another part of me wants Indy to turn into a disaster. This is petty me, the scorned fan who wants Wentz to rue the day he ever turned his back on the City of Brotherly Love. Wear that stupid cammo sleeve, go 0-16 and lead the league in picks. Then demand a trade to wherever Doug Pederson is a year from now and explain that he was your favorite coach all along and you just didn’t know it.

We’ll see what happens. It would be a lot easier to forgive and forget if the Eagles didn’t look so bad on paper.

Pretty childish on Tommy's part. 

3 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Under 1000 hours to go. At about 995 at the moment. We should be on the clock in about 996 hours. And I realized last week that my previous updates were actually off by an hour because I had not properly accounted for Daylight Saving Time.

Not that anyone really cares, but the reason I've been avoiding this place since December/January is that I'm simply disgusted by everything that has gone on with the team. I'm passionate about Eagles football, and stepping away for awhile has helped me keep my sanity. It's actually been refreshing to not pay attention to the goings-on. 

I anticipate getting back into it soon, so as to ready myself for the big event. 

Carry on.

Curious what you think about the Eagles bringing in Tyler Brown.  He is Randy Brown’s kid.  His dad is a kicker whisperer and worked with Akers and Justin.  Also Koch and Sauerbrun as punters.   I am hoping dad taught Tyler some things and that he is here to fix Elliott and bring on whoever our punter is.

 

Dodged a bullet here.

1 minute ago, metal said:

 

I totally expect this to work out...

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Cheap. 

I guess Eric Wilson is the last hope at LB.

28 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Eagles fans pride themselves on being tough, blue collar people, but the way that comment is being interpreted screams jilted middle school girlfriend.  With all of the crap that guy went through here on the field, with inept FO decisions, with the media, and with the "fans", its no wonder that thought went through his mind.  I thought his answer was truly honest, which should be commended. 

Also, this is why he never spoke...everything he says is shredded and disected to the Nth degree.

at least for me, I still put plenty of blame on the FO.  But at some point, doesn't Wentz have to recognize the benching for what it actually was - he was playing so poorly and just wasn't looking like a guy who was going to turn it around on the next throw, he HAD to sit?

I honestly don't think the benching was anything more than that.  I still believe, though miscalculated and a dumb allocation of resources, Hurts pick was just an injury insurance, a cheap way of filling the backup QB position, and then a future flip for a higher draft position.  I don't think they really had any intention of using him last season in any role other than possibly gadget guy to catch defenses here and there.

Given all of that, I think it's pretty weak for a QB to start wondering if your time is up here when the FO just gave you the biggest assurance you are the future - a fat extension.  

And even after the season, you could see the Eagles wanted to keep Wentz.  They didn't want to trade him at all.  Shouldn't THAT have made Wentz feel better?

All of this is coming from a big Wentz guy, but he's clearly not the guy I thought he was - nothing to do with skill set...purely about his mental makeup.

23 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Some players are wired at a higher level of compete than others.

I'd say Hurts is relative to Wentz, but no QB relative to Brady.

It won't make you successful, but it'll make you as good as you can possibly be.

Wentz reminds me of McNabb, in that McNabb wasn't obsessive when it came to perfecting his skills, it's not that he didn't work, he just didn't go the extra mile.

Stop it. Just stop it. McNabb lead the team to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. And after Kolb was drafted, he kept Kevin there for 3 years. After getting benched in 2008, he came back and lead the team to the NFC Championship Game. The team traded him -- he didn't ask out. 

As for not improving -- his passing stats got better at the end of his time here. 2009 was his third best passer raring season. From 2000-2003, his average rating was 81.9. From 2005 - 2009 (leaving out the one year with TO when it was 104.7), it was 89.9. That doesn't happen if the guy didn't improve as a passer. Meanwhile, Wentz has regressed for 2 straight years.

The never ending need for people to dunk on McNabb is unreal. McNabb lead this team for a decade of success. Wentz ran away at the first sign of adversity. 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Dodged a bullet here.

 

That’s pretty soft on Wentz’s part. Gets benched once and "whoa is me!”

Talk about entitled.

How does JuJu not sign with KC to be their volume slot WR? He'd get so many targets replacing Sammy Watkins!

Uh oh. 

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Stop it. Just stop it. McNabb lead the team to 5 NFC championship games and a Super Bowl. And after Kolb was drafted, he kept Kevin there for 3 years. After getting benched in 2008, he came back and lead the team to the NFC Championship Game. The team traded him -- he didn't ask out. 

As for not improving -- his passing stats got better at the end of his time here. 2009 was his third best passer raring season. From 2000-2003, his average rating was 81.9. From 2005 - 2009 (leaving out the one year with TO when it was 104.7), it was 89.9. That doesn't happen if the guy didn't improve as a passer. Meanwhile, Wentz has regressed for 2 straight years.

The never ending need for people to dunk on McNabb is unreal. McNabb lead this team for a decade of success. Wentz ran away at the first sign of adversity. 

McNabb's best seasons were 2003-2004, 2003 season numbers are distorted b/c he played the first couple games with a bad thumb, after the break he was red hot, and put up similar numbers to 2004. While he was decent from 2006-2009, he wasn't among the top QBs.

McNabb used to chase dog toys and other agility drills in the offseason, but never fixed his mechanics (famous for worm burners) and never learned to read a defense at a high level and anticipate his receivers coming open - like Vick, he depended on a strong arm to throw receivers open (fit it through a tight window). Great arm strength, but average touch and below average accuracy. Never was the same after he was injured in 2005.

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

Who you guys got for low seeds getting to the final four ??  I am looking at San Diego St and UConn.

Hoping Syracuse beats SD St.  This is the year for Gonzaga I think.  Might be their best opportunity. 

19 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

This is just his macho man defensive posturing.  It's his ego speaking. This is the statement he always reverted to in his Philly PC's, too. "I'm competitive" was really just an excuse for being a stubborn loser who could never accept any blame or accountability for poor performance. Wentz doesn't really know what being competitive is. He thinks he does, but in reality, it's just a sense of entitlement for him. "I'm competitive" means "I always think I'm right and think I deserve the spotlight, so I never question myself, yield to authority, or consider anyone else's perspective." He has zero self-awareness. Someone who's actually competitive is apt to look in the mirror from time to time and embraces the root of that word: competition. At the first sign of it, he wilted.

Wish him well but my opinion is he's mentally weak.   Some just aren't cut out to play in Philly.  Honestly I love McNabb but it makes me respect #5 even more.  All the negativity,  criticism and he was benched as well.  But he took it and didnt ask to be traded.