Adoree Jackson on a 1 year deal would be fantastic. It allows him to re-enter the market with more cap space. It gives us the opportunity to draft a CB early without forcing him to start. Adoree is also the type of player that is easily tradable during the season once contending team's DBs go down. 

I think he'd be a terrible fit for a zone-heavy team like the Giants.  

I'm in. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Adoree Jackson on a 1 year deal would be fantastic. It allows him to re-enter the market with more cap space. It gives us the opportunity to draft a CB early without forcing him to start. Adoree is also the type of player that is easily tradable during the season once contending team's DBs go down. 

I think he'd be a terrible fit for a zone-heavy team like the Giants.  

I'm in. 

We might be a zone heavy team...

6 minutes ago, greend said:

Did we release Jackson and Alshon yet?

Yes.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

 

Unless they need the cap space to sign someone, I think he stays on the roster until at least the draft. Maybe they move him on day 3 for a pick. 

I could see that happening. Personally, I think you are doing him a little bit of disservice, but they have the right if they want to. I would have just traded him for a conditional 2022 pick. 

Eberflus plays lots of zone in Indy , so why wouldn’t one of his understudies?

Mcnabb is a first ballot hall of famer.  He gets in for holding the longest grudge against a city for being boo'ed on draft day.  He and Carson should go bowling together and commiserate on how hard they had it.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

We might be a zone heavy team...

I think we will be. 

Still, the Giants want to play zone all the time. If we play like Zimmer's defenses, we'll mix it up.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I could see that happening. Personally, I think you are doing him a little bit of disservice, but they have the right if they want to. I would have just traded him for a conditional 2022 pick. 

Eh...I am an Ertz fan, but I don't think we owe him anything. Someone like JJ Watt -- OK, I get saying the Texans owed him a release so he could sign anywhere he wanted. Ertz isn't on that level.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Let's just say h did get drunk.  And he did puke.  He puked against Jax a few years prior.  Was that from drinking to?   We all have heard of players out partying the night before a SB.  And we all have heard separate stories of players puking in the damn locker room before a game in college, high school, the pros.  OK!!!  That is enough to warrant the malicious attacks?  All from the same people who probably wore his jersey and cheered for him when he was playing.  

Let's say it wasn't from drinking.  Let's say it was from horrible cardio.  That makes it much better right?  A franchise QB getting paid millions couldn't lose a few pounds and hit the treadmill.  His mouth was open more than a dog who just ran for an hour in a 90 degree day.

What would be so bad about Jackson in a zone? I know zone is a life line for a slower CB but that doesn't mean a you have to have a slow CB for zone.

Think of a guy with the speed and burst of Jackson betting able to read, click and close on a route in front of him.  His speed should make him great at that. And maybe he doesn't need to have the instincts to stick on a WRs hip. It could help him. 

I'm down for whatever gets Maddox back to Nickel.

24 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'm really starting to think he may be on the team in 2021. No one is giving us a 3rd for him. Let him play it out, get a comp pick. 

I'd dump him for a 5th/6th to let Goeddert take over, but seems not to be headed that way.

At this point I think a release or a 2022 conditional pick is most likely. I don't think they are getting anything in this year's draft.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

What would be so bad about Jackson in a zone? I know zone is a life line for a slower CB but that doesn't mean a you have to have a slow CB for zone.

Think of a guy with the speed and burst of Jackson betting able to read, click and close on a route in front of him.  His speed should make him great at that. And maybe he doesn't need to have the instincts to stick on a WRs hip. It could help him. 

I think he plays better in zone , allows him to be a playmaker 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No, I go directly to the most egregious and ridiculous claim.  I will concede that he might or might not have puked in the SB.  Or he might or might not have gotten hammered the night before.  I addressed those in another poster to someone else.  As far as coming up small in big games?  Well, we should have a lot of Philly athletes to hate if that is a justifiable reason.    But you said he gave a "BIG FU TO PHILLY FANS".  Because he said the Eagles made a mistake in trading him?  Seriously?  What else would you want him to say?  "Oh, well I am older now and my game isn't want it is used to be, so even though I just beat them, I can see why the Eagles traded me".  That is almost as silly as T.O. getting butt sore because McNabb said the team (paraphrasing) would need to come together and win without T.O.  Or something to that effect.  

I'm not concerned about what a player does off the field (so long as he isn't a **** human being).  If they wanna drink and party, that's fine by me.  What I care about is how they play on the field and when they aren't doing that to the best of their ability when they are paid a crap load of money to do so, it aggravates me.  

Just like Joel Embiid.  I use to give him crap for always being tired and huffing and puffing.  He finally got that fixed.

Mcnabb never bothered to do that.  He was lazy.  We had numerous times at the end of games where he was holding his hips and breathing like he just ran a 10k.  He couldn't get down the field fast enough to spike balls.  He couldn't get out of the huddle fast enough because he was so out of breathe.  We had to burn timeouts because of it (I am not talking about Andy taking forever to get the playcall in, that was a whole other story).  Am I making this stuff up?

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm down for whatever gets Maddox back to Nickel.

Am I crazy for thinking Maddox was way better at safety than anything else he's done in the NFL? He's a surprisingly effective open field tackler.

The blog needed a good old Mcnabb debate.  I'll be back later to stoke the flames when this starts to burn out.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So now it's his lack of fitness you had a problem with.  Do you know for a fact he didn't do any cardio?  Also, do you know that people puke for other reasons right?  Let's just say he puked because he was nervous and the moment got to him.  Now you can say you hate him because he folded in the moment and that's what made him puke.  I mean come on.....you're grasping big time.  

 

This is the reason why others bash Philly fans.  Stuff like this.  Only in Philly where Iverson, who was on TV complaining and downplaying practice, threw a chair at a woman when he was younger, is considered a hero.  But McNabb because he puked, couldn't win the big game, got chubby as he got older (like the whole F-ing world) is a villain.  

I used to puke after I crossed the finish line in 5k races. Maximum effort without regard for ones health sometimes does that

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

Am I crazy for thinking Maddox was way better at safety than anything else he's done in the NFL? He's a surprisingly effective open field tackler.

I think it's more that Maddox was way better as a rookie before Schwartz' scheme ruined him.

I'm not universally anti-Schwartz, but when it comes to the secondary, I am.

4 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

I'm not concerned about what a player does off the field (so long as he isn't a **** human being).  If they wanna drink and party, that's fine by me.  What I care about is how they play on the field and when they aren't doing that to the best of their ability when they are paid a crap load of money to do so, it aggravates me.  

Just like Joel Embiid.  I use to give him crap for always being tired and huffing and puffing.  He finally got that fixed.

Mcnabb never bothered to do that.  He was lazy.  We had numerous times at the end of games where he was holding his hips and breathing like he just ran a 10k.  He couldn't get down the field fast enough to spike balls.  He couldn't get out of the huddle fast enough because he was so out of breathe.  We had to burn timeouts because of it (I am not talking about Andy taking forever to get the playcall in, that was a whole other story).  Am I making this stuff up?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5753040

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So now it's his lack of fitness you had a problem with.  Do you know for a fact he didn't do any cardio?  Also, do you know that people puke for other reasons right?  Let's just say he puked because he was nervous and the moment got to him.  Now you can say you hate him because he folded in the moment and that's what made him puke.  I mean come on.....you're grasping big time.  

 

This is the reason why others bash Philly fans.  Stuff like this.  Only in Philly where Iverson, who was on TV complaining and downplaying practice, threw a chair at a woman when he was younger, is considered a hero.  But McNabb because he puked, couldn't win the big game, got chubby as he got older (like the whole F-ing world) is a villain.  

Read my other post.  He was just unlikeable for all of it.  Still cries about being boo'ed to this day.  He was arrogant.  Never took responsibility, always blamed others.  Had terrible cardio for whatever reason.  Yeah, that isn't a big deal at all when you play a professional sport, sure.  Came up small in a lot of big games and again rarely took responsibility.

All the being said, I know he was the best QB we ever had.  But he didn't do anything to gain popularity.  He did the complete opposite.

1 minute ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=5753040

Thank you!  But apparently cardio isn't important.  He had great teeth.  Maybe that's they the love him!

The thing about McNabb is that you have to accept him for what he was.  He was a great QB who had a lot of awesome moments...but he was just not a QB that's going to throw the team on his back and carry them to the finish line. 

There are QB's that can will their teams to wins - Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, even someone like Ben Roethlisberger, etc. can do that.  It's the ability to just show up in those big moments that any QB, great or not, simply either have or they don't. 

McNabb was 10x more talented than Nick Foles, but Foles just had that X-factor about him.  You put McNabb in those games against Atlanta, Minnesota and New England?  Honestly I don't think he does it.  

Plus what always pissed me off about McNabb was that he never worked on the most glaring weakness in his game.  Couldn't hit a short and intermediate pass consistently to save his life, so naturally the answer is to come into camp with 30 extra pounds of upper body muscle.  Throwing ground balls behind the linebackers, but it's all cool somehow because he can't turn his neck and has to rotate his entire torso to achieve the same effect. 

Ryan Howard was the same way.  Worst part of your game is the outside slider?  Come into spring training and tell everyone about how you worked on your fielding! 

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I hope you didn't get any on the upholstery.  

Once almost on my Pastors foot after a benefit 5k. Puked and the went in for a meatball hoagie 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Are you making it up?  Not in your own mind, it appears.  Are you presuming you know more about his work ethic then most of us?  Yes.  Still far from enough to hate the guy as much as you do.  If he did give a big FU to the Philly fans, I would agree with you.  That would be the big one for me.  But I still struggle with that part of you grievance.  The hate isn't justified.  

See one post below this with the link that he posted.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Never took responsibility and always blamed others?  That's a new one to me as well.  I don't remember that at all.  Did he yell and get into it with guys in the huddle (T.O.).  Yeah, most likely.  QB's aren't supposed to be just one of the guys.  

No, post game speeches.  Did you watch any of them?  He was quick to throw others under the bus and rarely took blame.