Just now, devpool said:

Are you going to give Howie a pass on free agency this year since we have no money during this first year of the phase switch? The types of players he brings in will be low tier special teams guys because we can't afford anyone else

Well, first of all, I know he is responsible for this cap situation we are in. But thats because we are changing phases from the retain everyone we can to extend the super bowl window, to the re-gain flexibility and rebuild phase. 

And, it remains to be seen if he even needs a pass. Anthony Harris for 5M is a great deal. If he lands Adoree Jackson on a low/no risk deal as well? What more can you ask for? I never expected us to be able to bring a guy of that level in. I expected more Andrew Adams level guys this year and nothing more. Hes already exceeding expectations. But this phase of roster building is where he has always shined for us. 

8 minutes ago, devpool said:

Are you going to give Howie a pass on free agency this year since we have no money during this first year of the phase switch? The types of players he brings in will be low tier special teams guys because we can't afford anyone else

Why would you possibly write this after the Harris signing?

Given multiple WR formations and athletic H-backs are now the norm, you don't need a shutdown CB you need good DBs along the secondary, that is, no obvious weak spots that an OC can target. Gannon should take better care of his DBs than Schwartz as a CB coach.

The emphasis on DTs was Schwartz, that's what he wanted, that's what he got. Moved away from the wide 9, to a scheme where DEs controlled the edge and the DTs brought inside pressure.

Problem is the DTs, other than Cox, couldn't stay healthy. Logan, Jerrigan, Malik, Ridgeway. Hargrave at least got through the year unscatched.

PFF had Hargrave ranked as the 10th best interior DL going into the 2020 season. After a slow start in a new scheme, he showed why.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-rankings-top-25-interior-defensive-linemen-2020-nfl-season

Eagles actually could surprise in 2021 if everything went well.

They'll go into the season with a solid OL and DL, and good OL depth, though DL depth will be an issue.

And that always gives you a chance.

With Slay, Adams and Harris, you have veterans to anchor a young secondary.

If you add a top WR, the rest of the group would look a lot better, a power back would make the RBs look good.

But of course it comes down to Hurts, put up a QBR > 60 and Eagles would have a shot at the playoffs.

Yikes. 

He must be a mess , I liked him more than Thomas at GA 

 

 

38 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I'm not a fan of taking a position like corner in the 1st that the league via rules has set that position up to constantly fail.

It's a passing league and the rules grossly favor QB and WRs and even OL.

The days of shut down corners are long gone and spending big money orcs first round pick on a position that gets lit up week to week no matter who or what team seems like a poor use of resources.

2017 the eagles had the least amount of money allocated to Corner, yet one of the highest amounts allocated to safety

.teams have shown over and over again that one doesn't need elite or even top corners to win, just capable.

I’d like to allocate all my likes for the day to this.  

Another yikes. Fans are terrible. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

What a disaster. Dude clearly just doesn't care about playing football.

Who would have thought in a million years it would take a month to show that the Titans won that trade 😂.  I’m guessing the Titans knew...

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’d like to allocate all my likes for the day to this.  

Besides, it’s easier to cover in zone than in man. If we’re going to play mostly zone, does it make sense to invest heavily in the kind of corner that’s easier to find?

Just now, eagle45 said:

Who would have thought in a million years it would take a month to show that the Titans won that trade 😂.  I’m guessing the Titans knew...

Clearly, but Miami has people on staff that knew him personally and probably thought they could reach him. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Another yikes. Fans are terrible. 

The only thing I could think of that would provoke that behavior is betting a bunch of money on OSU and losing big. Either way, psychos.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Besides, it’s easier to cover in zone than in man. If we’re going to play mostly zone, does it make sense to invest heavily in the kind of corner that’s easier to find?

Clearly, but Miami has people on staff that knew him personally and probably thought they could reach him. 

My guess is the guy had some sort of breakdown.  Titans said he was a different person when he showed up after the draft.  And people on Miami knew him and wanted to trade for him.  So something must have changed.

I’m a big fan of Gowan , st - juste and Joseph at CB  position , also really like Jamar Johnson at db , a safety who can move around in the secondary 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

We have the worst WRs in the nfl.  

Do we?  Are you unwilling to give Reagor, Hightower and Watkins a chance to prove themselves in their sophomore season before casting such judgment.  When I watched the All 22, I saw open receivers that weren’t getting the ball.  If we are to believe McLane, supposedly Carson was Pressed (pun intended) about not throwing the ball to the primary receivers in the plays.  Doug was so slow in conveying the play to Press, who then conveyed it to the QB that motion was practically worthless in the offense last year.  Are those issues on the receivers?   

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Do we?  Are you unwilling to give Reagor, Hightower and Watkins a chance to prove themselves in their sophomore season before casting such judgment.  When I watched the All 22, I saw open receivers that weren’t getting the ball.  If we are to believe McLane, supposedly Carson was Pressed (pun intended) about not throwing the ball to the primary receivers in the plays.  Doug was so slow in conveying the play to Press, who then conveyed it to the QB that motion was practically worthless in the offense last year.  Are those issues on the receivers?   

No, but poor/wrong routes, being scared of contact, drops were. Not to mention the lack of run after catch ability. 

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Besides, it’s easier to cover in zone than in man. If we’re going to play mostly zone, does it make sense to invest heavily in the kind of corner that’s easier to find?

Clearly, but Miami has people on staff that knew him personally and probably thought they could reach him. 

It is kinda funny that someone thought, "You know what would help a troubled 22 year old with no self control and millions of dollars? Moving to Miami."

It'll be interesting to see the H-back battle, Jason MIchael worked with Alie-Cox the past two seasons, who had a breakout season in 2020.

Alie-Cox 6'5 262, 4.75  7.25  35"

Fomer VCU basketball player who hadn't played football since HS, signed to the PS in 2017, cup of coffee in 2018 and 2019.

Now compare to Tyree Jackson, former QB.

Jackson 6'7 249  4.59  7.09  34"

Alie-Cox had the basketball experience as a rebounder, so he was used to going for contested balls, but otherwise totally raw.

Jackson as a QB understands route running concepts, but will have to commit to the weight room and learning to block.

Jackson has a great arm, but lacks NFL accuracy, which is why he's making the switch. It does sound like he's embracing it, it was his idea to do so.

“(The idea) actually came about around November. I had a meeting with my college coach, Lance Leipold, and we were just talking and he mentioned there might be a few teams that are interested in me as a tight end. I thought at that point in time it would probably be best to make that transition and give myself an opportunity to continue to play in the NFL, so I started training in November and it’s been going well. I’ve been learning a lot and, you know, I’m just excited for the opportunity to play football again.”

Jackson said that while he has focused on the quarterback position most of his career, he has embraced the grind that comes with being a pure football player.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2021/01/qb-turned-te-tyree-jackson-eager-for-nfl-opportunity-with-eagles-still-mona-shores-proud.html

And he can be the 3rd QB as well!

Wilson and Butler are WRs converting to a H-back role, neither is big enough to be a true TE, but have size and speed and receiving experience.

Butler is interesting, 6'5 220 with 4.49 speed, was on IR as a rookie with a broken hand, then waived last fall by Arizona who used the 1st pick of the 4th rd on him.

Raw athlete who needs a lot of work, similar to JJAW in that he struggled beating the press and getting separation at the pro level. Straight line speed can be deceiving.

https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2020/9/8/21427331/az-arizona-cardinals-hakeem-butler-released-new-york-jets

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Do we?  Are you unwilling to give Reagor, Hightower and Watkins a chance to prove themselves in their sophomore season before casting such judgment.  When I watched the All 22, I saw open receivers that weren’t getting the ball.  If we are to believe McLane, supposedly Carson was Pressed (pun intended) about not throwing the ball to the primary receivers in the plays.  Doug was so slow in conveying the play to Press, who then conveyed it to the QB that motion was practically worthless in the offense last year.  Are those issues on the receivers?   

We do.  End of story.

Am I opposed to giving them all a shot in 2021?  Absolutely not, especially Reagor.  But to call people hell bent on upgrading the position obsessed is just ignorant.  This group sucks.

While I am very disappointed in Reagor’s rookie year, I want him to start and have every opportunity to succeed in 2021.

Hightower is terrible.  He can’t run routes, has no agility, and looks like a deer in headlights.  Give him a chance to compete?  Sure.  Use him as evidence that we need to wait and see with what we have?  Ridiculous.

Watkins?  His skill set is interesting, but the fact that he couldn’t get on the field over a total unprepared mess in Hightower speaks volumes. 
 

They are late round lottery tickets.  I’m happy to give them a shot, but they don’t even belong in the discussion.  
 

Reagor is the only player on the team whose name is even worth mentioning.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It'll be interesting to see the H-back battle, Jason MIchael worked with Alie-Cox the past two seasons, who had a breakout season in 2020.

Alie-Cox 6'5 262, 4.75  7.25  35"

Fomer VCU basketball player who hadn't played football since HS, signed to the PS in 2017, cup of coffee in 2018 and 2019.

Now compare to Tyree Jackson, former QB.

Jackson 6'7 249  4.59  7.09  34"

Alie-Cox had the basketball experience as a rebounder, so he was used to going for contested balls, but otherwise totally raw.

Jackson as a QB understands route running concepts, but will have to commit to the weight room and learning to block.

Jackson has a great arm, but lacks NFL accuracy, which is why he's making the switch. It does sound like he's embracing it, it was his idea to do so.

“(The idea) actually came about around November. I had a meeting with my college coach, Lance Leipold, and we were just talking and he mentioned there might be a few teams that are interested in me as a tight end. I thought at that point in time it would probably be best to make that transition and give myself an opportunity to continue to play in the NFL, so I started training in November and it’s been going well. I’ve been learning a lot and, you know, I’m just excited for the opportunity to play football again.”

Jackson said that while he has focused on the quarterback position most of his career, he has embraced the grind that comes with being a pure football player.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2021/01/qb-turned-te-tyree-jackson-eager-for-nfl-opportunity-with-eagles-still-mona-shores-proud.html

And he can be the 3rd QB as well!

Wilson and Butler are WRs converting to a H-back role, neither is big enough to be a true TE, but have size and speed and receiving experience.

Butler is interesting, 6'5 220 with 4.49 speed, was on IR as a rookie with a broken hand, then waived last fall by Arizona who used the 1st pick of the 4th rd on him.

Raw athlete who needs a lot of work, similar to JJAW in that he struggled beating the press and getting separation at the pro level. Straight line speed can be deceiving.

https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2020/9/8/21427331/az-arizona-cardinals-hakeem-butler-released-new-york-jets

I love using bottom of the roster or PS spots on athletic specimens and projects. If you hit, you hit big. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

We do.  End of story.

Am I opposed to giving them all a shot in 2021?  Absolutely not, especially Reagor.  But to call people hell bent on upgrading the position obsessed is just ignorant.  This group sucks.

While I am very disappointed in Reagor’s rookie year, I want him to start and have every opportunity to succeed in 2021.

Hightower is terrible.  He can’t run routes, has no agility, and looks like a deer in headlights.  Give him a chance to compete?  Sure.  Use him as evidence that we need to wait and see with what we have?  Ridiculous.

Watkins?  His skill set is interesting, but the fact that he couldn’t get on the field over a total unprepared mess in Hightower speaks volumes. 
 

They are late round lottery tickets.  I’m happy to give them a shot, but they don’t even belong in the discussion.  
 

Reagor is the only player on the team whose name is even worth mentioning.

Yup. We absolutely cannot let the likes of Fulgham, Hightower, Ward, Watkins or anyone not named Reagor stop us from upgrading the position. 

And when I say Reagor, I mean investing in another Z. This team needs an X in the worst way. And we need a slot that’s worth a damn. (Commence Ward debate)

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Yep. It’s weird that there’s pushback at all on WR talk. We don’t have a single (proven) starting quality receiver on the roster. 

It’s one thing to be patient with a first-round pick like Reagor, but the cupboard is bare otherwise, and we likely can’t afford to sign a real one in FA. 

If we’re going to be a zone-heavy cover two team, why spend a high first on a CB?

The argument can be made that the Colts didn’t spend first round picks on WRs either.  I will accept BPA and if that is a receiver, so be it.  But it is not the most glaring need for the Eagles.   I happen to think Farley is in the top 6 players so I would be thrilled to have a young CB stud to build around.  I also think Surtain is in the top ten so he is another possible building block to build a secondary around.   I like Chase as an option.  But I am not sold that Chase, Pitts, Smith are players that defensive coordinators have to scheme for.  This is a good draft for slot WRs but I am not convinced that using a first for a slot is a wise decision.  Frankly, the top of this draft isn’t that great but I think as CBS go, Farley and Surtain would be first round selections any year. 

2 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Vikes have been slowly changing how they go about it on D , last year they were bad , they have been in the process of a lot of player changes , they may have two of the best young corners in glandney and dantzler both rooks last year .

more cover 3 and 43 under as opposed to over . Zimmer  brought in Capers for a reason , help change things up

Shh. Don’t tell the WRs only club.  

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

The argument can be made that the Colts didn’t spend first round picks on WRs either.  I will accept BPA and if that is a receiver, so be it.  But it is not the most glaring need for the Eagles.   I happen to think Farley is in the top 6 players so I would be thrilled to have a young CB stud to build around.  I also think Surtain is in the top ten so he is another possible building block to build a secondary around.   I like Chase as an option.  But I am not sold that Chase, Pitts, Smith are players that defensive coordinators have to scheme for.  This is a good draft for slot WRs but I am not convinced that using a first for a slot is a wise decision.  Frankly, the top of this draft isn’t that great but I think as CBS go, Farley and Surtain would be first round selections any year. 

I think the concept of building around a CB is about as up to date as building around a bruising RB.