2 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

 

So it doesn't look like the combine is going to happen?  And the Eagles apparently turn down a chance to coach one of the sides in the Senior Bowl and pass up an opportunity at an up close look at 50+ potential draft picks when they need to infuse themselves with young talent?  I need to go find a wall to bang my head on.  This team.  It's like they just don't get it.

 

they probably dont plan on having a coaching staff assembled. They like to wait until all the top candidates are hired and then try to find a needle in an obscure haystack who no one ever considered that maaaayyyybe will work out but most likely will suck. 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Random thought... I think Mike Evans is the #3 WR on his team. This is a guy who was worth the top 10 pick. 

What?  He has 7 consecutive 1000 yard seasons to begin his career.  6 for 119 yesterday- down here his is acknowledged as their #1 receiver.  

no NFL combine = every fast payer is going to run a sub 4.35 because all we have is their pro-day 😆

No combine makes it far more likely guys who opt-out like Sewell and Chase drop down...

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, we really have no idea what Marty’s role even was. 

The whole outfit is setup that way.   Accountability is obscured, so the fans have to begrudgingly (sort of) believe the official narrative when Lurie fires somebody.

29 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

No combine. Players opting out. Limited information.

What a great year to bottom out. 

Less information...more of a crapshoot. 
 

Better for us.  We have a gm who overanalyzes information and uses it to our detriment.  Better to just flip a coin, which is what this year will be like.

And I don’t think we’ve bottomed out yet either.

12 minutes ago, QBhunter58 said:

no NFL combine = every fast payer is going to run a sub 4.35 because all we have is their pro-day 😆

If Reagor managed 4.22 on a quarantine pro day, that will put most speed receivers in the 3.9-4.0 range.  

1 hour ago, Bloodtype_Green said:

I would take CB off that list.  In today's NFL impact corners are endangered.   In the past 10 years the only can't miss DB prospects drafted in the top 10 have been Patrick Peterson and Jalen Ramsey.  I don't like those odds.  I didn't include Eric Berry on that list because he was drafted to play S.  

 

I agree. With the way they are treating DBs now it doesn't seem worth it to draft one in the top unless it's a generational talent

DBs get flagged for anything now

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Random thought... I think Mike Evans is the #3 WR on his team. This is a guy who was worth the top 10 pick. 

Some teams have a luxury of talent at WR while we have none

With no combine and one red shirt freshman season to his resume, this probably wipes Rousseau from top 10 consideration.  (For teams with real GMs, anything is fair game for Howie).

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

they probably dont plan on having a coaching staff assembled. They like to wait until all the top candidates are hired and then try to find a needle in an obscure haystack who no one ever considered that maaaayyyybe will work out but most likely will suck. 

Doug wants control of the offense which is why they had consultants last season.  It will work out just like you said in terms of sucking.  I don't even think they will hire an OC from outside the organization.  I anticipate this: "after an exhaustive, thorough, and extensive search- no stone was left un-turned- we've come to the logical conclusion that Doug needs to be the offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.  We think this is the best way forward towards reaching our goal of winning the SB in 2022."

3 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Doug wants control of the offense which is why they had consultants last season.  It will work out just like you said in terms of sucking.  I don't even think they will hire an OC from outside the organization.  I anticipate this: "after an exhaustive, thorough, and extensive search- no stone was left un-turned- we've come to the logical conclusion that Doug needs to be the offensive Coordinator and Head Coach.  We think this is the best way forward towards reaching our goal of winning the SB in 2022."

Doug will still call the plays and Taylor will be promoted to OC.  Basically, our worst fears become the reality.  And Howie will screw up the draft and we won't really add any quality players who can contribute in a positive manner to the team in 2021.  So more of the same.

 

20 hours ago, toughfighter83 said:

if i look at the cowboys games, our receivers struggled big time, we need two receivers.

I don't disagree with that. If the JJAW pick had worked out maybe they don't draft Reagor then I could absolutely see them going with Smith or Chase this year. I just have a gut feeling that they trade back to mid-teens or so and get someone on offensive or defensive line.

4 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Doug will still call the plays and Taylor will be promoted to OC.  Basically, our worst fears become the reality.  And Howie will screw up the draft and we won't really add any quality players who can contribute in a positive manner to the team in 2021.  So more of the same.

 

Sign me up for that.  I want a top 3 pick with a new gm and coaching staff in 2022...and that’s the best way to make it happen.  

3 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

I don't disagree with that. If the JJAW pick had worked out maybe they don't draft Reagor then I could absolutely see them going with Smith or Chase this year. I just have a gut feeling that they trade back to mid-teens or so and get someone on offensive or defensive line.

If they drafted Metcalf (or Mclaurin) instead of JJAW, then they aren’t absolutely forced to draft a speed WR in round 1.  
 

They could have taken a normal approach to the draft instead of force-picking Reagor.  
 

The other big miss was Dillard over Montez Sweat.  We could have the Sweat bookends at DE moving forward.  

2 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

i love your optimism. 

I just dont share it.

This team has seriously regressed each year since 2017-18. The talent level dropped off due to age and bad drafting/not being able to develop enough young talent.  The franchise qb, his HC and the GM dont seem to be able to work together.

I cant see these openings as being ones that are attractive to serious talent. I see this next season as the lame duck season it will be for Dougy at least. It will be a wasted season, like this past one was. Mainly because there is a serious age issue, and lack of young talent, and you cant fix that in one draft/offseason even if you drafted like the steelers and didnt have a cap issue.

our drafts have been really bad, that aint changing unless howie is gone.

I don’t see it that way.  Could be my optimistic view on things.  But let’s look at the facts. Doug’s first couple of years, he had Reich drawing up the game plan.  Sure that included red zone input from Flip but those were two very experienced coaches.  He won a Super Bowl and Reich and Flip leave for promotions.  He promotes from within Groh and raises Press (all because his binder of plays, like AR and Philly Special cloud his vision). He also promotes Walch.  Result is a dismal failure.  To add to the misery, to salve a sulking Duce, he gives him a promotion and charge of the backfield.   Result on that is a dysfunctional offense.  Groh and Walch are sacrificed for being above their heads.  Lurie and Howie suggest getting a better OC.  Doug probably probably pointed out that the committee approach worked at the beginning so they gave him Scangarello and Marty for a year.  Note that Duce became the running game coordinator and Scangarello got the backfield motion duties.  I think a bit of a demotion for Duce but also an opportunity to hone his skills toward his goal to move up in the world.  Doug promotes Press to passing game coordinator further splitting the offensive game planning.  Press is also allowed to call some plays and is the voice in Carson’s ear.  I believe they also had Carson going off script too much.  Splintering and dysfunction. Failure.

So as Lurie does his performance review with Doug, all of this comes up.  Doug, we tried it your way, but let’s consider a few things:

1) In Jim Schwartz, you basically had a Defensive Coordinator Head Coach and he had that head coaching experience so it worked okay.  You need to hire a DC and be more involved in the defense.

2). The committee approach didn’t work.  We are not renewing Marty or Scangarello.  (At BigEFly’s insistence, Dom has had armed guards remove Marty from the building).  Let’s face it, the passing game coordinator/running game coordinator approach did not work either.

3) I spent $130 million on Carson and Press has made a mess of that. He is not a QB coach and not much of a passing game coordinator either.  He has to go.

4) If Duce isn’t OC material then he is the RB coach, period.  I know Jim has duties split between the front seven and backfield but he drew it together and they are a bit separated.  Doesn’t work separating the run from the pass.

5).  I know you are loyal to players and coaches but Press has to go and if Duce can’t live with the role he ends up with, then so does he.  A big part of the decision will lie with who we all decide will be the OC.  We will try to defer to you but are cognizant on how your loyalty sometimes blinds you.  Happens with all coaches.  You need to give more of the scripting and calling to the OC and we probably need to freshen the offensive plan up a bit.  You and the OC looking at what works best for Carson and Hurts, will decide on the QB coach hire. You need to tell me if you can work within that framework because if not, I have a decision to make.  

Now, Howie.........

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I think CB and iDL are in danger of falling off that list.

How you could watch the secondary this year and think that astounds me that you think CB would fall off the list.   It is the most needed position on the team.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If they drafted Metcalf (or Mclaurin) instead of JJAW, then they aren’t absolutely forced to draft a speed WR in round 1.  
 

They could have taken a normal approach to the draft instead of force-picking Reagor.  
 

The other big miss was Dillard over Montez Sweat.  We could have the Sweat bookends at DE moving forward.  

They didnt need to force pick Reagor. they had better options, they just flat out failed and made the wrong pick. Dillard I understood. I wanted AJ Brown with that pick but I understood the need at LT and he was considered the best guy and good value at that selection where Reagor was a reach and better options on the board. 

Sadly a TON of fans wanted Reagor there over Jefferson but they wont admit it now. 

 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

 

Aargh.  No Combine???  Hate that.  I need the OL and DB position drills.  

 

2 minutes ago, metal said:

 

Yeah, just read that. Surprised the Eagles have "a vision” .

Needs to be ASAP so they can start the process.

5 minutes ago, metal said:

 

So, what Mort is essentially saying at the end of this tweet is — Lurie watched the last 4 games and reached the conclusion "definitely NOT Wentz — this offense stinks!”

I doubt he needed Detective Columbo beside him to walk him through that assessment 

7 minutes ago, metal said:

 

Problem is if this is true then they are already late to the game. This decision needed to be made a week ago.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Trying to imagine what Doug Pederson’s actual response would be if Lurie asks him what his vision for the team is.  Hopefully something better than "Football is a rough game; people get hurt”