I didnt watch Pitts' 40 but I saw people saying it looked awkward.

Mike Evans looked HORRIBLE running his 40, and whatever his time was was clearly manufactured at a pre-draft performance camp. 

But it didnt stop him from being a successful WR.

 

Pitts will probably be very good no matter what his realistic on field speed is. Despite any robotic looking manufactured time.

The question just still remains whether a TE at 6 is ever worth it. 

Evans 4.53  40 

I don’t put too much stick in 40 times , lots of real good players ran poor 40s

Dawkins ran a 4.61 

To he completely honest, that Pitts 40 looked more like a 4.65

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I didnt watch Pitts' 40 but I saw people saying it looked awkward.

Mike Evans looked HORRIBLE running his 40, and whatever his time was was clearly manufactured at a pre-draft performance camp. 

But it didnt stop him from being a successful WR.

 

Pitts will probably be very good no matter what his realistic on field speed is. Despite any robotic looking manufactured time.

The question just still remains whether a TE at 6 is ever worth it. 

I can’t say if Pitts will be good, but Kelce is worth a top 5 pick.

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

I can’t say if Pitts will be good, but Kelce is worth a top 5 pick.

Is he though?

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Is he though?

I would say so

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Is he though?

Nope

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Is he though?

A HoF TE isn't worth the 5th pick? 

A hall of famer at any position but LS, P, K is worth a top 5 pick. 

1 minute ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I would say so

but he ran a 4.6 and was drafted in the 3rd round.

People didnt know Kelce would be what Kelce is if they let him last till round 3. 

And what makes him great is not his athleticism. Hes not the specime that Pitts is. So Pitts' athleticism doesnt guarantee he will be a Kelce level player either. 

How do we know Pitts is worth pick 6? Vernon Davis was even more freaky and probably wasnt worth a top 10 pick. 

Is the TE position that important? What if you have a 6th round unathletic guy like Brent Celek? Arent you just as well off?

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Is he though?

I guess it depends how you view pass catchers. Kelce in his prime was more valuable than Julio in his prime.

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

A HoF TE isn't worth the 5th pick? 

which TE went 5th overall and is in the HOF?

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

which TE went 5th overall and is in the HOF?

Go back in time I would draft Kelce 5th if knew what he would be 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So Kelce is a hall of famer now?  Jesus Christ.  

Travis absolutely what world are you living in

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Go back in time I would draft Kelce 5th if knew what he would be 

Interesting....

TE to me seems like a position similar to RB whereas you can find outstanding starters later in the draft pretty consistently. 

Im not sure the position affects the game enough to warrant such a high pick. And Im not sure theres enough of a difference between an elite TE, and a player like Ertz/Goedert or even Celek to warrant such an early pick. 

 

Something else- OJ Howard may have been an even better athlete with better size than Pitts. Is it really safe to assume Pitts is a Kelce level player and act as if Pitts is a HOFer already? Just based on expected combine numbers?

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Interesting....

TE to me seems like a position similar to RB whereas you can find outstanding starters later in the draft pretty consistently. 

Travis Kelce is the first TE in NFL history with five 1,000-yard seasons. 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

Nick Niemann is a LB prospect in the 2021 draft class. He scored a 9.9 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 21 out of 2098 LB from 1987 to 2021

Yup his workout definitely got him on teams radars, 4.45 at 6'3" 235 and an insane 3 cone will get you noticed.

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Travis Kelce is the first TE in NFL history with five 1,000-yard seasons. 

I just dont know what this has to do with Pitts. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

A world where there are only 9 tight ends in the HOF dating back to 1961.  I wouldn’t pencil him as of right now.  
 

Even if he is.  It’s a dumb argument.  Since like H.E. said that Kelce was drafted in the 3rd.  

Kelce has already cracked the top-10 leaderboard at the position in receptions (612), receiving yards (7,881) and touchdowns (48) despite playing the 23rd most games (111) through his first eight seasons

Just now, Utebird said:

Yup his workout definitely got him on teams radars, 4.45 at 6'3" 235 and an insane 3 cone will get you noticed.

Wlb for some team 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I just dont know what this has to do with Pitts. 

If the Eagles think Pitts will be Kelce then you take him. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

but he ran a 4.6 and was drafted in the 3rd round.

People didnt know Kelce would be what Kelce is if they let him last till round 3. 

And what makes him great is not his athleticism. Hes not the specime that Pitts is. So Pitts' athleticism doesnt guarantee he will be a Kelce level player either. 

How do we know Pitts is worth pick 6? Vernon Davis was even more freaky and probably wasnt worth a top 10 pick. 

Is the TE position that important? What if you have a 6th round unathletic guy like Brent Celek? Arent you just as well off?

In 2003 the Eagles took LJ Smith (6'3" 250lbs) in the 2nd round because of his athletic ability at TE and AR thought he was a better fit than Jason Witten (6'6" 260) who the Cowpies got in the 3rd round - Dallas Clark 1st, Bennie Jopu 2nd went before both of them and Teyo Johnson in between. 

Jason Witten will probably end up in the HOF and I wouldn't take him in the top 10 even if I knew what I was getting. If Pitts is just a TE he's a late 1st pick and I'd rather have Chase.

Just now, DaEagles4Life said:

If the Eagles think Pitts will be Kelce then you take him. 

but why would they, or anyone think so?

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Interesting....

TE to me seems like a position similar to RB whereas you can find outstanding starters later in the draft pretty consistently. 

Im not sure the position affects the game enough to warrant such a high pick. And Im not sure theres enough of a difference between an elite TE, and a player like Ertz/Goedert or even Celek to warrant such an early pick. 

 

Something else- OJ Howard may have been an even better athlete with better size than Pitts. Is it really safe to assume Pitts is a Kelce level player and act as if Pitts is a HOFer already? Just based on expected combine numbers?

That’s been my problem with people. I like pitts but people assume cause he was good in college and has good numbers that he’s automatically going to be kelce. He very well might be. He very well might just turn into oj Howard where he never lives up to the hype that people had for him. He might be Vernon Davis or Evan engram who are good (solid really for engram). I think this he’s a lock to be great is exactly what people did with prospects last year and the year before. I get loving and liking someone but have realistic expectations it is more unlikely for him to be kelce who became the best tight end in the league for nearly half a decade. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

For slip and fall claims, we began seeking phone records in discovery.  You would be shocked at how many showed the person was texting when they fell.

Crazy times we live in... 

24 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

but he ran a 4.6 and was drafted in the 3rd round.

People didnt know Kelce would be what Kelce is if they let him last till round 3. 

And what makes him great is not his athleticism. Hes not the specime that Pitts is. So Pitts' athleticism doesnt guarantee he will be a Kelce level player either. 

How do we know Pitts is worth pick 6? Vernon Davis was even more freaky and probably wasnt worth a top 10 pick. 

Is the TE position that important? What if you have a 6th round unathletic guy like Brent Celek? Arent you just as well off?

I meant moreso if you could go back knowing how Kelce turned out. I see what you’re saying though.

For me it’s Chase or trade back.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

I like him a lot.