23 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Add to that Howie took 46.5 million off the 2022 cap number with all the restructuring he did to get under the cap this year.

The thing is no one would be sweating or criticizing the cap if the team had been successful and the roster did not have significant holes.  Kicking the can down the road when you have to rebuild makes a longer term problem.   The reality is that there is no getting ahead or being better than other teams at the cap anymore.  You have to better at personnel decisions including free agency. 

8 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The 50s I'm not that old😉

Yup all those 90s NFC east teams that won super bowls had strong OL.

Meanwhile the eagles were leading the league in sacks taken.

☹️

 

 

I remember when we thought the offensive line was fixed when the team traded 2 picks for Ron Solt in 88.  oof 

Solt was a stud for the colts , not with eagles , roids 

34 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not explaining why it matters for the 10th time. 

Skip 10 and go for 11 then

11 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Solt was a stud for the colts , not with eagles , roids 

He had bad knees when they traded for him. He then tested positive the next season.  I don't think he played for the team past 89.  

If you want to suffer further on the Solt trade, check out the 1989 draft.  The pick they traded for him was I think Andre Rison.  Dallas picked Steve Wiznewski at the top of the 2nd round. 

5 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

1) I think the Callaways are best for foregivness/newbs/getting back into the game

2) Check out 2nd swing. there stuff is LEGIT, almost perfect condition they give a huge discount on. They had Mavrik Max(exactly what you need from your description) used for less than 500

I’m gonna hit those and some Pings tomorrow, I found a little golf shop down here in Bethany Beach, I’m in Lewes.  
 

6 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

The game improvment irons will help. The tech has come a long way and dont go used- worn grooves

but what you can do to keep cost down is is shop the previous generation models. I do that with wedges and it saves me a third.

ping just game out with the 425s so look around for the 410s on tgw and other sites. Places will be happy to clear them out

Ty, I’m hitting the 410’s tomorrow, btw, not to be Seinfeld, but what’s the deal with these single length irons?
  I’m not interested but how does that even work?   I get the how, but what club are the irons based on length wise? I’m not sure for a total beginner how they would be easier to hit, unless I’m missing the obvious.  Things have changed a lot in 10 years for sure!!

Ideal slot. 

20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Ideal slot. 

We’re fine there 

Guys, I have great news — Eagles fans don’t need to worry about Jalen Hurts.  Desmond Howard says so; he actually said on national TV that Trevor Lawrence is the only draft-eligible QB in this year’s class who’s better than Hurts.  Eagles fans are so lucky!

I thought Josina Anderson said some really stupid things on ESPN .....

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Interesting edit there.  But still wrong.  Who was saying this?   Name 1 poster.  Before his kicking of thy can, we were in a good cap spot in 2022.  

And they will be in a good cap spot in 2022, once 2022 comes around...like they have been in every single season since Howie has controlled the cap.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Welp....there you go.  You deserve whatever you get for tuning into that dreck.  

Mostly for comic relief, but I really was curious to see what Greenberg’s opinion was since he’s always wrong — figured I could go ahead and root against whatever he thought.  He only moderated and did not offer an opinion, but Howard’s statement supplied the laugh I was looking for.

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Guys, I have great news — Eagles fans don’t need to worry about Jalen Hurts.  Desmond Howard says so; he actually said on national TV that Trevor Lawrence is the only draft-eligible QB in this year’s class who’s better than Hurts.  Eagles fans are so lucky!

I thought Josina Anderson said some really stupid things on ESPN .....

The conversation about taking a QB at 6 is all wrong. It isn't whether or not you'd take Hurts the draft prospect over this year's projected 1st round QBs; it's whether or not you'd take Hurts the guy who's been on your team for a year over what those guys could be, and whether the potential of those guys is worth prioritizing over Hurts AND giving up the highest "earned" 1st round pick since 2013.

I think intangibles matter, but these conversations always get reduced to "but X player has more talent" with "talent" being synonymous with arm strength. So carry on...

 

 

@thorku

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Micah Parsons in nutshell:

Pro: •Nation’s top LB in 2019 •

A+ athlete (4.39 40)

 

Con: •Accused of punching/choking/pulling knife on teammate •

Accused of being ringleader in PSU hazing that "simulated sexual assault”, telling teammate: "I’ll make you a **** bc this is prison”

4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

 

 

@thorku

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Micah Parsons in nutshell:

Pro: •Nation’s top LB in 2019 •

A+ athlete (4.39 40)

 

Con: •Accused of punching/choking/pulling knife on teammate •

Accused of being ringleader in PSU hazing that "simulated sexual assault”, telling teammate: "I’ll make you a **** bc this is prison”

I'm OK with it.

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

The conversation about taking a QB at 6 is all wrong. It isn't whether or not you'd take Hurts the draft prospect over this year's projected 1st round QBs; it's whether or not you'd take Hurts the guy who's been on your team for a year over what those guys could be, and whether the potential of those guys is worth prioritizing over Hurts AND giving up the highest "earned" 1st round pick since 2013.

I think intangibles matter, but these conversations always get reduced to "but X player has more talent" with "talent" being synonymous with arm strength. So carry on...

I get all that, but what Greenberg asked Howard was "if you’re stacking up Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Zach Wilson against Jalen Hurts .... how would you see that comparison if it were up to you?”

Perhaps Howard misunderstood the question in context, but he labelled Justin Fields "a similar guy, similar traits, both are dual-threat QBs”.  I don’t think Justin Fields is a strong QB prospect, but stacked up against Hurts — I think it’s clearly Fields on top.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don’t think Justin Fields is a strong QB prospect, but stacked up against Hurts — I think it’s clearly Fields on top.

But is Fields better than Hurts+Chase? Because that is the question.

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

But is Fields better than Hurts+Chase? Because that is the question.

Yeah good point, Chase pushes the needle in the Hurts direction significantly. We are gonna be bad anyway, might as well see what the kid has with some weapons

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

But is Fields better than Hurts+Chase? Because that is the question.

That’s not really the question because the Eagles have 11 draft picks and will need to move forward with only one starting QB.  How good is Chase going to be if Hurts sucks?

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Cool.

Theres a difference between a cranky dude in a message board saying it and an NFL exec privy to negotiations on the open market saying it, right?

BLG is an NFL exec now?  Nah, he's not.  

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Yep.  It's the same few that just hate Howie, no matter what he does or how much it makes sense.  Of course, you don't hear about how he basically made the cap work for the 2021 season (when the same people were saying we would need to cut 3/4 of the team).

 

The irony is that although some of Howie's moves may not have worked out (in terms of player-personnel) his cap management has been among the best in the NFL.  AND STILL IS. 

 

This is hysterical.  Talk about setting a low bar.  Team with least cap room in the league that is almost completely devoid of young talent, hasn't found a difference maker in ages, has a GM* that manages the cap "among the best in the NFL."  Personally, I would hold the team to a slightly higher standard.

The "GM" has been a total and complete failure by any measure.  However, the bigger issue here is I come on this board and read posts where everyone is attributing every move to the "GM" when we have learned, clearly, that the owner is the actual GM.  The named "GM" is a glorified assistant.  A "collaborator" extraordinaire, to be sure.  The Eagles did the same thing most other teams did, at least the ones that had to make moves, to conform to the 2021 cap.  None of it is surprising, and none of it is rocket science.  The dead money hits and mortgaging of future cap are due to the bad decisions and roster mis-management that have occurred, especially since the super bowl.  This is where the Eagles will have far more future cap encumbrance for less value (i.e. talent & production) than other teams, that are different degrees of less stupid (Texans excepted of course).

The Flacco deal is not awful because of voided years added on.  That is actually the sensible thing to do when you have no cap room and are baking on a $40M+ increase next year.

The Flacco deal is awful because his total comp this year is $3.5 M when he signed for $1.5 M last year.  It's awful because there is no way you pay him more this year when the cap is down and he has no market.  It's awful because he doesn't appear to be able to actually play anymore.  It's awful because he does not appear to be close in skill set to the QB they intend to structure the offense around this year.  It's awful because the player has outright refused to collaborate and be a mentor to young QBs when on other teams.  It's awful because the contract value is above the threshold for comp picks, and will likely wipe out the estimated 5th rounder they would receive in 2022 for Jalen Mills.  And it's awful because he's not the kind of backup that makes sense for a team in the Eagles situation.

It's just another dumb move by the owner and his lackey.  A feel-good meeting resulting in a totally unnecessary overpay, and yeah it doesn't crush the cap moving forward but is it wasteful and dumb?  Absolutely it is.

Others that know the game and follow the team have written about it.  Sheil Kapadia's quote on it pretty much sums it up.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-sign-qb-joe-flacco-baffling-contract/

https://theathletic.com/2472896/2021/03/23/grading-the-move-were-eagles-wise-or-foolish-to-sign-joe-flacco-as-backup-qb/

2 hours ago, greend said:

C'mon man 3.5 for an experienced qb isn't really over paying.

Correct, but this isn't an experienced QB.  This is a washed up QB.  And we are paying more than twice what he got last year.

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

If Flacco getting $3.5M is our biggest problem . . .

Cap will go up $30-40M next year, so they can eat all that dead money, who they gonna give big money to? How many FAs are they gonna sign?

By 2023, most of the dead money will be gone.

After seeing Trent William's deal (who missed the 2019 season), those extensions aren't unreasonable, and teams will go even crazier next year.

Nope, the biggest problem is the fool running the franchise still.  Flacco is a symptom, not the source of the problem.

And there's the wonderful defense... no one to give big money to... Why is that?   Because the talent of the franchise is so diluted.  

 

Having dead money because the cap is going to go up is not a good defense.  It still means that the Eagles will be competing at a disadvantage because they have dead money... almost $30M with Flacco, Harris, Alshon, Malik and Graham.   So, while the cap goes up... it really won't go up for the Eagles, except that its that the dead money next year with those 5, matches the dead money for Wentz this year.  But, they also have dead money with Desean, Alshon and Malik to cover for this year too.   whoops.

 

So, there is no defense for Howie's mismanagement.  And the Flacco deal just goes to show that he is still giving out more than needed to land old, washed up players.   Awesome.