2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Doug Pederson for the #2... I am ALL about it!    Get it done.   Then trade Howie to an European 'football' league team for cash considerations... maybe we can buy some cap space from them.  lol

I think you mean Doug and a #2 to the Jets for a 7th round pick. 

Id still be ok with that deal :)

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Even though I’m a firm believer that Howie is the underlying problem, I don’t think Douglas was any prize.  If Doug and Douglas were aligned with eachother, I’m sure that friendship alone would be enough for him to want to make the trade.

Douglas could have seen that Howie was the issue and Doug’s crappy coaching staff structure had a lot of Howie’s fingerprints all over it. 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

Theres a lot of noise on who really did make the suggestion to add it to the book. Other teams like the Bears and Browns were running it a few years before we put it in the playbook. During a documentary about the Eagles SB run they said Foles actually asked about trying out the play cause he ran it in HS and the Bears ran it last game of the season in the season that just ended. No one will know who really did. 

The Eagles didn’t invent the play.  
 

Foles called it and Doug Ok’d it. 
 

whoever put it in their playbook...we probably won’t know 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

The Eagles didn’t invent the play.  
 

Foles called it and Doug Ok’d it. 
 

whoever put it in their playbook...we probably won’t know 

We know for a fact it was Press. This is well documented. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Douglas could have seen that Howie was the issue and Doug’s crappy coaching staff structure had a lot of Howie’s fingerprints all over it. 

Certainly possible, but I do think there is blame to go around.  
 

I have no link or evidence to prove it, but I sense that the 12 personnel and exclusively underneath passing offense with congested routes short of the sticks is Doug’s doing.  
 

Howie can’t call plays or design routes.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Douglas could have seen that Howie was the issue and Doug’s crappy coaching staff structure had a lot of Howie’s fingerprints all over it. 

Yup. But he also didn't see the mess that was the 2020 Eagles offense. 

23 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

LET'S GO!

McMullen comes off as senile in a lot of his podcasts, but if I were to follow along then I would suggest trading Pederson to the Jets for their 2021 2nd round pick and 2022 1st round pick.  
 

Throw in Jalen Hurts to the Jets for Sam Darnold, straight-up 

 

McMullen is a hack

43 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

And why drag your feet?  Meet with DP, discuss his plans.  If they don't align get rid of him.  Get a head start on coaching search.  This isn't rocket science Jeff.  

Jeff: Doug, so what is your plan going forward?

Doug:  Well, I'm going to talk to Carson. I'm going to tell him that we can do this.  I'm going to ask him, if he thinks we can do this. If he says yes, then I'm going to say.  That's good. We agree. If he says we can't do this, I'm going to ask him why we can't do this. Then, once he tells me why, I'm going to listen. Then, after I listen, he and I will make the necessary corrections and do this.  That's the plan.

 

Lurie needs to get control of his team. If they do Doug dirty(sounds like a movie title) and fire him, while keeping Howie, then I would not be surprised and even would endorse Doug singing like a canary when he leaves town and we start to get tons of leaks about how dysfunctional we are.

I can’t believe they’d make Doug the fall guy. Howie will destroy anyone in his path to keep his own job safe, he’s like Frank Underwood

1 minute ago, CaliEagle said:

Jeff: Doug, so what is your plan going forward?

Doug:  Well, I'm going to talk to Carson. I'm going to tell him that we can do this.  I'm going to ask him, if he thinks we can do this. If he says yes, then I'm going to say.  That's good. We agree. If he says we can't do this, I'm going to ask him why we can't do this. Then, once he tells me why, I'm going to listen. Then, after I listen, he and I will make the necessary corrections and do this.  That's the plan.

 

"And then OTAs”

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Lurie needs to get control of his team. If they do Doug dirty(sounds like a movie title) and fire him, while keeping Howie, then I would not be surprised and even would endorse Doug singing like a canary when he leaves town and we start to get tons of leaks about how dysfunctional we are.

I can’t believe they’d make Doug the fall guy. Howie will destroy anyone in his path to keep his own job safe, he’s like Frank Underwood

Howie can go as well and I think many would be happy, but in no way is Doug the fall guy. He earned his removal from this team on his own if that happens.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Sounds to me like Doug told Lurie to go screw himself and won’t be making changes because the owner wants them made.

And honestly, he should have done this after he won the SB and let the "chips” fall where they may. 

1 hour ago, toughfighter83 said:

trading back is a mistake, maybe in the latter rounds, the oline is deep in this draft, the dline/dends arent very good, i wouldnt go there in the first round, you need weapons for either wentz or hurts, you cant go with this receiving core next year, it's basically tank year 2. if chase or smith is there take him. you have to go my the strength of the draft.

With Howie in charge of drafting no scenario, no matter how monumentally stupid, will be off the table.

I can absolutely see a situation here Howie trades back and picks a mid 2nd round graded edge rusher at...I dunno say 15th overall.

37 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

WR is a premium position.  It just happens to also be a dependent one.

The best teams in the NFL are winning games and championships on the shoulders of their WRs.  The NFL has made it so.  Packers, Chiefs, Bills, Saints...the WRs make those offenses go.

But the position comes third in the process.  You need an OL and a QB before the ball can be delivered.  If you lack those things, a WR can’t really produce or save you.

The Eagles lack all 3.  Which makes me feel like it’s really silly when people talk about drafting safeties, corners, and linebackers.  Like buying new rims for a car with no engine.

But you do.

I think arguably teams are as much dependent on coaching as talent. I also think oline play is more important than WR play. At this point, however, it’s difficult to assess what kind of talent this team has. 

22 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If Doug Pederson were traded to the Jets for a decent pick...on one hand, that’s Howie scapegoating another HC.  On the other hand, that would be an incredible trade by Howie.  

Good for Howie.  Let that be his swan song.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Lurie needs to get control of his team. If they do Doug dirty(sounds like a movie title) and fire him, while keeping Howie, then I would not be surprised and even would endorse Doug singing like a canary when he leaves town and we start to get tons of leaks about how dysfunctional we are.

I can’t believe they’d make Doug the fall guy. Howie will destroy anyone in his path to keep his own job safe, he’s like Frank Underwood

Nobody except the people directly involved knows exactly what is going on. I don't disagree with your thoughts on Howie, but I also completely disagree that Doug is about to scape goated and it's all Howie. If that were the case Doug would have been fired last Monday. I am also speculating but it certainly appears that there has been some sort of disconnect between Doug and Lurie over the last week considering all reports were he was keeping his job and almost a week later he still has a job, at least for now.

21 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

If we are going to just base everything off Philly Philly, then Nick Foles should be calling the plays for this offense and Trey Burton should be our qb of the future.

Just now, ShutDownDB said:

With Howie in charge of drafting no scenario, no matter how monumentally stupid, will be off the table.

I can absolutely see a situation here Howie trades back and picks a mid 2nd round graded edge rusher at...I dunno say 15th overall.

I don’t think Howie is ever truly in charge but is making a decision based on who is in the room. I think that’s a big part of why the decisions have been so inconsistent. 

3 minutes ago, Thrive said:

Sounds to me like Doug told Lurie to go screw himself and won’t be making changes because the owner wants them made.

And honestly, he should have done this after he won the SB and let the "chips” fall where they may. 

IF and I stress IF this tweet is accurate, Doug is a moron and my stance on him would change. Press Taylor is a terrible coach and should not be back on the Eagles coaching staff. If that's the hill Pederson wants to die on after everything that has gone on then he can get lost and I would blame nobody but him.

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I think Doug is resistant to getting rid of him and may have given them an ultimatum about him. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I don’t think Howie is ever truly in charge but is making a decision based on who is in the room. I think that’s a big part of why the decisions have been so inconsistent. 

That’s a Howie problem. Our draft room has been dysfunctional largely because he allows it to be. 

If Howie gets a 1st for Pederson, he should absolutely keep his job.