Let's say it goes Lawrence/Wilson/Jones/Pitts/Chase...

 

Where does Sewell fall to? Miami probably takes Smith/Waddle. Detroit should take Sewell there. Could take Fields tho if they love him. Carolina could go QB or Parsons. Sewell could potentially fall to Cowboys/Giants....ugh.

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Let's say it goes Lawrence/Wilson/Jones/Pitts/Chase...

Where does Sewell fall to? 

Detroit. They want to rebuild and Sewell can immediately play RT for them. 
Both Carolina/Denver have OL needs too, so one of them is getting him. 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Will that help our old D line, O line and garbage secondary?  Because that's what will be the best thing for my sanity....(we all know it's never coming back, who am I kidding).

Will taking a D-lineman, O-lineman or CB help the Eagles non existent WR room.  They have holes everywhere.  

There is no clear cut DL in the draft.  I'm fine waiting.  CB is debated as to who is the top CB and when they should go vs. the impact of a CB in today's NFL.

Pitts and Chase immediately would have given the Eagles a weapon on offense and both created mismatches.  

Thanks to these workouts we won’t have to worry about Chase or Pitts to Dallas or NY

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The best thing for my sanity as an Eagles fan is for ATL to take Pitts and Cincy to take Chase.

Sewell will be on the board at 4, not a chance both teams pass on him.  One of the two will absolutely be available at 6.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Trade down and load up assets where it matters most.  The lines and the secondary.  Multiple good players at those positions is more helpful to building a winning organization than one stud WR or TE.    We don't need just one guy at those valuable spots.  We need a ton!  

 

I think this disconnect on how to build sustainable success is a generational thing.  No offense....but how old are you?  

I do agree with you that is the way but we have weapons fatigue due to fail drafting as of late and it’s a snowball effect. 

10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Trade down and load up assets where it matters most.  The lines and the secondary.  Multiple good players at those positions is more helpful to building a winning organization than one stud WR or TE. 

#facts.  But you are missing one key element.  You can have all the resources in the world, but the guy using them has to know what he is doing, and Howie Roseman clearly does not.

38 minutes ago, TEW said:

There’s usually a guy or two who rises, but even if there isn’t, you still have Wilson and Watson as trade targets or the ability to flip draft capital into 2023 while laying the foundation at OL, WR and defense.

Wilson will be 34 in the 2022 season and Watson will be 27

I wouldn't want to trade a bunch of picks for either next offseason

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I would rather give him more swings at the ball.  

Really though ??  You want to watch this repeatedly.

46 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The entire draft is roulette with Howie.  It's like he's throwing darts blindfolded.

The Eagles traded pick 146 to the Cowboys last year. for pick 164 and a 5th this year.  The Cowboys drafted highly regarded center Tyler Biadasz (who started when healthy and would EASILY be the heir apparent to Kelce).

The Eagles then traded 164 for 173 and 227 and then traded them for 196, 200 and 233.

196 Shaun Bradley- back up ST LB

200 Quez Watkins #4 WR at best

233 Casey Toohill cut

Biadsaz was one of the top players on the board at pick 146, I remember the networks saying the Cowboys were targeting him.  So not only did the Eagles pass up on BPA at a position of need, they traded with their rivals to let them take him.

Future starting center or backup LB, backup WR and a DE they cut?

 

So you think Howie is so bad at drafting that his evaluations have the same probability of randomly throwing darts at the wall yet also complain when he turns one dart into four.  Very coherent logic.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I guess I need to use my house building analogy over and over and over again.

You don't put the roof on before you build the foundation.  

5 picks in the top 123- hope we get 2 DB, 2 linemen and if we do that I can be OK with one WR.  Like you trading back again would be OK by me.  Optimal would be a 2022 2nd to drop 3-5 spots.  

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Trade down and load up assets where it matters most.  The lines and the secondary.  Multiple good players at those positions is more helpful to building a winning organization than one stud WR or TE.  

 

I think this disconnect on how to build sustainable success is a generational thing.  No offense....but how old are you?  

We have 11 picks in the draft, more than enough to get multiple good players at a number of positions (provided Howie can make good picks).  Taking one stud WR or TE isn't going to hamper them from building position groups by adding multiple players at each.

What the Eagles lack is elite talent.  The one dominant athlete they have is Mailata.  

You can read my posts, I've said many times how our DL depth is bad and we need to build up DE and DT, same with safety and corner.  I posted the other night that I'm in the minority but I think we have tools to work with along the O-line so I'm not taking a lineman early in the draft. I've also talked about how I think the value of CB that high in the draft doesn't equal how the game is played anymore. The NFL is driven by offense, mismatches and dominant QB/WR play.  

They were in prime position to get one of the top two pass catchers in the draft and they felt that the value wasn't there which tells me Howie hasn't learned his lesson from the last 2 drafts.

Chase and Pitts have been 1-2 this entire draft process and both guys tested through the roof and proved it.  You know exactly what you're getting with both. 

The next tier, Waddle and Smith, who are both good but have question marks, refused to work out and question marks are still there.  These are the guys who are going to be in the Eagles range now that they traded back. I like Waddle but he isn't giving you what Chase or Pitts can.  I'm not touching Smith.

The bottom line is the Eagles either can't judge elite talent or they don't think it matters.  I'm 39 and think I have a pretty even keel approach to my expectations on what I'd like to see the Eagles do.  

 

Yup just heard Kurt Warner on Sirius give comp of Zach Wilson to Patrick mahomes. It was only a matter of time til some analyst did it. 

4.41 forty for Jamin Davis
woW

4.37 sec run

late first rd pick 

4 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

4.41 forty for Jamin Davis
woW

4.37 sec run

late first rd pick 

Maybe, but off the ball LBs drop.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup just heard Kurt Warner on Sirius give comp of Zach Wilson to Patrick mahomes. It was only a matter of time til some analyst did it. 

Not far from it , arm talent , off platform throws , ability to move around in pocket and scramble if need be

not saying he will definitely  have same success though 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Maybe, but off the ball LBs drop.

White went 5 overall 

you need athletic backers who can run cover and pressure QBs 

davis can do that

LB Jamin Davis, Kentucky

(6’4”, 234)*

4.41 40-yard dash (99th

 42” vertical (100th) 11’0” broad (99th)

53 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I love that beach in, Arizona almost as much as the one in Utah🤔

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup just heard Kurt Warner on Sirius give comp of Zach Wilson to Patrick mahomes. It was only a matter of time til some analyst did it. 

Not the first I've heard the comparison, most often he's compared to rodgers and stafford but mahomes yeah, though I don't think he's quite as fast as mahomes maybe comparable to a younger rodgers as a runner.

3 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Not far from it , arm talent , off platform throws , ability to move around in pocket and scramble if need be

not saying he will definitely  have same success though 

I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But you knew analysts were eventually going to do one of those prospects to him  ive also heard trey Lance to mcnabb when he came into the league. 

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup just heard Kurt Warner on Sirius give comp of Zach Wilson to Patrick mahomes. It was only a matter of time til some analyst did it. 

Personally, I think he comps closer to Aaron Rodgers. He does have an amazing ability to throw off-platform, so I understand the Mahomes comparison though.

9 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

White went 5 overall 

you need athletic backers who can run cover and pressure QBs 

davis can do that

LB Jamin Davis, Kentucky

(6’4”, 234)*

4.41 40-yard dash (99th

 42” vertical (100th) 11’0” broad (99th)

What's with all these dudes jumping through the roof, 42 vert is nuts for a guy weighing 234 lbs and 11 broad these guys should be playing basketball no?

Pretty impressive 40 eve. If you add 5 tenths to its a 4.46 which is moving for a guy at 234.

Now the question is go to the tape is he an explosive athlete on tape?

Does he run side line to side line can he change direction, can he diagnose and shed and tackle can he drop his hips and cover how's his back pedal and coverage awareness? Or is he just a 234 lb guy that can run and jump?

 

43 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Wilson will be 34 in the 2022 season and Watson will be 27

I wouldn't want to trade a bunch of picks for either next offseason

I think if you’re looking at Wilson you wouldn’t trade a bunch of picks.

Hes angling for a trade and is older. 

2 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Marshall and chase  4.38 wow

Knew Marshall had it. I honestly thought Chase would be mid-4.5s

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

What's with all these dudes jumping through the roof, 42 vert is nuts for a guy weighing 234 lbs and 11 broad these guys should be playing basketball no?

Pretty impressive 40 eve. If you add 5 tenths to its a 4.46 which is moving for a guy at 234.

Now the question is go to the tape is he an explosive athlete on tape?

Does he run side line to side line can he change direction, can he diagnose and shed and tackle can he drop his hips and cover how's his back pedal and coverage awareness? Or is he just a 234 lb guy that can run and jump?

 

Five tenths would put him at 4.91. I'm beginning to like Micah Parsons. Anyone else like him?