Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

True but then if he's not happy with their offense then he's not going to want to come to Philly. 

It’s more the philosophy. Pete Carroll loves 1980s offensive football. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think it is funny. Carson goes to Indy, grabs Hurts’ number and Hurts responds that he is now #1. I have no problem with him grabbing the number when it became available. 

You think he changed his number because of Wentz?

5 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

Nick Foles was a better passer than Hurts - the knock on Foles was that he lacked athleticism - you know - the same thing that caused Brady to drop.

And comparing rookie seasons - which was the only thing to go on at the time - Foles was better in his first 6 starts than Luck was in his first 6 starts.

 

Foles in 6 starts his rookie year: 1-5 record, 59.6% passing, 1,480 passing yards. 5 passing TDs, 4 interceptions, 78.3 QB rating, 6.35 Y/A,  6.01 AY/Y, 42 rushing yards and 1 rushing TD.

Hurts in 4 starts his rookie year: 1-3 record, 51.9% passing, 919 passing yards, 5 passing TDs, 3 interceptions, 77.2 QB rating, 6.91 Y/A, 6.65 AY/Y, 272 rushing yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. 

 

Yet with Foles you had high expectations heading into year 2 yet for Hurts you don't think it's possible for him to improve hardly at all. 

4 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

If Hurts pans out then the Eagles have a starting QB for the next 3 years at $5M total; they'll also be able to use their 3 first round picks on starting-caliber players right away.  

Let's hope. Not much else to say.

28 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think a reporter heard they were talking to Miami and also saw that the OC and QB coach were at Wilson’s workout and concluded that they were contemplating trading to draft Wilson but then got word it was something else and quickly modified his post.  You are reading into a briefly posted tweet that was quickly modified. 

A tweet that was completely removed is different than modified. He completely removed it and I’m guessing it wasnt because he elected to do so all by himself. I’m guessing he had no issues with originally reporting it and sending out the tweet. Furthermore caplan and mosher continuously re-iterating that hurts wasn’t drafted to start and they didn’t envision being in this position. Both of them have indicated that from their sources  

there were also reports linking the eagles multiple other QBs like russell Wilson and watson. So it could just be the eagles were looking to upgrade the position and haven’t been able too or searching out if it’s even possible 

i do love on this board over the last 3-4 months apparently anything that counters people’s belief by reporters is now all sudden just dismissed cause reporters are now just bad

19 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think it is funny. Carson goes to Indy, grabs Hurts’ number and Hurts responds that he is now #1. I have no problem with him grabbing the number when it became available. 

If he did it bc of Wentz then he is a petty bish

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

You think he changed his number because of Wentz?

It was his # at OU, and it was taken by the P last year I think.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

i do love on this board over the last 3-4 months apparently anything that counters people’s belief by reporters is now all sudden just dismissed cause reporters are now just bad

The guy walked back his reporting. Journalists don't do that if their info is solid. It's just the way it works.

What’s the goal here? To maybe win a Super Bowl again and suck for a while again? Then Wilson might make sense in a year or so. 
 

Is it to try to be competitive for the long haul and build a roster in hopes of giving yourself more competitive years? Then you need a young QB.

We won it because of neither. We had a young, talented QB and our backup won the Super Bowl. 
 

There is no magic formula. We tried the "be competitive for years thing” and that didnt work out for us. But every year we had a chance. And that was fun.... until we lost in the playoffs. But those seasons were fun. Nothing was more fun than watching Nick Foles win the big game. But the years since haven’t been much fun. But there was a time when I thought I might never see the Eagles hold you the trophy. I cried when we did. It was great. But now that that monkey is off my back, I’d really like to watch us win games and be competitive and have hope again. A three (maybe) year window with Russell Wilson and a lackluster roster isn’t my preference. I’d rather have a young, talented roster win games a bunch. But I don’t necessarily think having more draft capital equates to talent on the roster, because we suck at drafting. 
 

I don’t know what the answer is. I just want us to draft better and watch games with the belief we can win them. However that has to happen. 

7 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The guy walked back his reporting. Journalists don't do that if their info is solid. It's just the way it works.

Whatever you want to believe. Heck caplan and mosher laughed about it saying someone in the eagles organization definitely got a hold of him and asked to take it down. But sure rapoport who’s been wrong in the past and left the tweets up just so happened to be wrong this time and delete it....

47 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t think the Eagles would package all three 1s for Wilson considering his age. Two 1s, I think that would be on the table certainly. 

And even that would be dumb.  

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Whatever you want to believe. Heck caplan and mosher laughed about it saying someone in the eagles organization definitely got a hold of him and asked to take it down.

It's not what I believe. It's the way the profession works. A reporter doesn't walk back a report because the subject of the report asks him to. They do it if the information is wrong. And this is the second time this particular reporter posted bad info about the Eagles. So obviously he is relying on a poorly placed source.

I mean, this is pretty basic journalism. You taking the approach that reporters just change things because someone gets mad about it shows a total lack of understanding of the profession.

42 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think it is funny. Carson goes to Indy, grabs Hurts’ number and Hurts responds that he is now #1. I have no problem with him grabbing the number when it became available. 

Eh, He was #2 at Bama and #1 at Oklahoma.  Probably just wanted the number from the first place but Cam Johnston had it.

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

It's not what I believe. It's the way the profession works. A reporter doesn't walk back a report because the subject of the report asks him to. They do it if the information is wrong. And this is the second time this particular reporter posted bad info about the Eagles. So obviously he is relying on a poorly placed source.

I mean, this is pretty basic journalism. You taking the approach that reporters just change things because someone gets mad about it shows a total lack of understanding of the profession.

Yes the guy with a journalism degree doesn’t understand. Yet you the one who doesn’t and never probably worked a day in Your life as a journalist is rich. Cause i worked for a newspaper(s) and had someone call me asking to remove something from a story. But i know since you have that journalism degree and worked in the industry you have that first hand experience.  But continue to believe whatever you think.

43 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

True but then if he's not happy with their offense then he's not going to want to come to Philly. 

He has a no-trade clause and would only waive it to go to CHI, DAL, NO, or LV.  The Eagles are not included on that list — and no reason to believe Wilson would waive it in the future to go to PHI.  
 

It’s a non-story, non-starter and non-issue 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes the guy with a journalism degree doesn’t understand. Yet you the one who doesn’t and never probably worked a day in Your life as a journalist is rich. Cause i worked for a newspaper and had someone call me asking to remove something from a story. But i know since you have that journalism degree and worked in the industry you have that first hand experience.  But continue to believe whatever you think 

I have a journalism degree, have worked for media companies in three countries and I have never corrected a story just because someone got mad about it, even when physically threatened. How many stories have you corrected because someone got mad about it? 

16 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I have a journalism degree, have worked for media companies in three countries and I have never corrected a story just because someone got mad about it, even when physically threatened. How many stories have you corrected because someone got mad about it? 

Have had it happen multiple times where they don’t have to be threatening to get it removed and a valid reason for wanting it out. You could also lose your source for something that’s not worth keeping or fighting for. Or the person who you get it from changes their story cause they don’t want to face the consequences of telling you what their original story was. And not just me have a friend who currently  works for 24/7 have the uofa ask him too because if he didn’t he felt like future stories he wouldn’t get as in-depth info and walked it back. Also have a friend as a Suns beat writer asked to take a tweet down about drafting ayton when everyone was saying it was all Luka before the lottery was announce. Cause his source with the Suns wasn’t supposed to leak that and in turn for removing he got a bigger story later. Yeah that happens whether you want to think it doesn’t. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Have had it happen multiple times where they don’t have to be threatening to get it removed and a valid reason for wanting it out. You could also lose your source for something that’s not worth keeping or fighting for. And not just me have a friend who currently  works for 24/7 have the uofa ask him too because if he didn’t he felt like future stories he wouldn’t get as in-depth info and walked it back. Also have a friend as a Suns beat writer asked to take a tweet down about drafting ayton when everyone was saying it was all Luka before the lottery was announce. Cause his source with the Suns wasn’t supposed to leak that and in turn for removing he got a bigger story later. Yeah that happens whether you want to think it doesn’t. 

None of what you described is remotely ethical or a common practice in the journalism industry.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So who's buying the apparent reports / rumours that the Eagles are at the front of the queue for Russell Wilson? I'm not buying it for a second. 

I 1000% buy it. Howie and Jeff are obsessed with him 

 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

I think a reporter heard they were talking to Miami and also saw that the OC and QB coach were at Wilson’s workout and concluded that they were contemplating trading to draft Wilson but then got word it was something else and quickly modified his post.  You are reading into a briefly posted tweet that was quickly modified. 

Schefter and Mort both said there were people in the office that wanted to trade up for Wilson well before his pro day 

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

None of what you described is remotely ethical or a common practice in the journalism industry.

And just cause it’s not ethical doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You see to think everybody in the industry (sports not talking about other fields of journalism) is on the up and up or doesn’t have some sort of you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours with some of their sources for privileged access. And like manu said a couple posts later they are access reporters. They want access and they are benefiting others who return the favor of benefitting them with a big news story. Also like you’re not supposed to take gifts from people you’re covering or doing stories on. Hence Mike misseneli had a long story about how he took a tie from John Chaney and dinner reservations Chaney would hook him up. You’re not supposed to do that either and yet there’s a lot of journalist that do that.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Schefter and Mort both said there were people in the office that wanted to trade up for Wilson well before his pro day 

mort and schefter after the wentz trade alluding to them wanting to trade up for Wilson and really liking him would kind of fit into rapoport’s tweet they were trying to trade up for him. He just gave you more details. So 3 different national reporters giving that type of info. 

This 7 round eagles mock makes me pretty happy

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/philadelphia-eagles-7-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-trade-12

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Foles in 6 starts his rookie year: 1-5 record, 59.6% passing, 1,480 passing yards. 5 passing TDs, 4 interceptions, 78.3 QB rating, 6.35 Y/A,  6.01 AY/Y, 42 rushing yards and 1 rushing TD.

Hurts in 4 starts his rookie year: 1-3 record, 51.9% passing, 919 passing yards, 5 passing TDs, 3 interceptions, 77.2 QB rating, 6.91 Y/A, 6.65 AY/Y, 272 rushing yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. 

 

Yet with Foles you had high expectations heading into year 2 yet for Hurts you don't think it's possible for him to improve hardly at all. 

Yes

 

 

But I really hope Hurts exceeds expectations and proves all the doubters wrong. I do know one thing about Hurts - if he fails it won't be due to a lack of effort. Whatever his ceiling is, he'll find it.