Howie Roseman to be named the next HC of the Eagles...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... I'm kidding, I think.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nope.  No one cares about football in LA.  You wanna hide and get sunshine then go be a wuss out there.  You wanna be a big fish in a big sea.  You go to Philly.  

LA cares about the Lakers, that’s it. The only time they care about football is when The Trojans are good.

On one hand, they clearly recognize how horrible they are and half measures are over.  Good for them.  They literally said the process has begun.

On the other hand, all trust is now being placed in Howie Roseman.  The franchise is in his hands.  Forever.  

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No beat reporter, no poster has been in the Eagle draft room.

Lurie has, for every draft, and I'm sure he knows what the scouts recommended, and what the coaches lobbied for.

If he thought Howie was the problem, and he didn't want to fire him, he'd kick him upstairs and bring in a "real GM." It's been done before.

Why would Howie defer to his coaches? Because you build a roster for your coaches, if you think they're wrong, get new coaches. We did.

 

If they had been, we would have had better drafts.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

He missed on EVERY SINGLE ONE. 

Alshon Jeffery (post Super Bowl) - miss,
Mike Wallace - miss,
Desean Jackson - miss,
Malik Jackson - miss, 
Golden Tate - miss, 
Gerard Avery - miss, 
 

What move worked?  Was there one?   Other than Jordan Mailata and maybe Dallas Goedert, what moves were good?

I'm not even going to give him credit for Goedert at this point. And to be honest I'm not sure how much credit he deserves for Mailata. Apparently Stoutland asked for him as a project. Its Stoutland that's worked with him not Howie. The only credit Howie deserves there is for listening, that's all. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He missed on EVERY SINGLE ONE. 

Alshon Jeffery (post Super Bowl) - miss,
Mike Wallace - miss,
Desean Jackson - miss,
Malik Jackson - miss, 
Golden Tate - miss, 
Gerard Avery - miss, 
 

What move worked?  Was there one?   Other than Jordan Mailata and maybe Dallas Goedert, what moves were good?

Jake Elliott- miss

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I hate this take and talking point so much. They were a catch away from a first down outside the redzone. They needed to score a TD and struggled all game outside of the opening burst. And they could have scored and given Brees enough time to get into FG range to win. They were nowhere near the NFCCG. They lost the game and that's the only takeaway. 

YEP! Both Lurie and Howie pointed it out too.  They are living in their own reality.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Howie has admitted as much. He was ready to rebuild, then COVID came along, and they gambled in a weak division they could win out with a set coaching staff and roster.

After the draft, Brooks goes down, then Dillard goes down, and the season goes down with them.

Nor did it make a big difference, the contracts were already on the books, it was going to take two years to clear them out, but it's not an accident that Howie made sure he accumulated comp picks and ended up with 10 draft picks in 2020.

Again the stupid spin with covid is a ridiculously bad answer. You don’t change from well we need to rebuild but due to covid we aren’t going too cause it’s a weak division. Winning a god awful division isn’t the goal. If that’s your goal then you need to reassess or be fired cause the goal is winning the SB not winning a weak division two years in a row and losing early on the playoffs cause you’re team is no where close to good enough. That’s completely idiotic spin job and a lousy lame ass excuse. Only an idiot would buy into that’s what changed it. They thought they’d be capable of competing for a title after winning the division. They fooled themselves into thinking last 4 games last year meant more than what they did  

great he had 10 picks. Most teams have 7-10 picks routinely. Eagles pissed them away on bad trades and the ones they did have didn’t work out. I’ve posted on here before the eagles are bottom half of the league in their hits and misses first 4 rounds of the draft over the last 5 years.  

but please Dave keep spinning it 

This thread is going to be good:

 

Did anyone look at the 2017 roster and think "this is a young team that could be a dynasty?" With the best talent in their late 20s and early 30s?

And trading up for Wentz (even with stealing a 1st rd pick for Bradford) and winning the SB meant they weren't going to get a lot of help from the 2018 draft.

So it was never IF we were going to rebuild, it was WHEN we were going to rebuild.

Which is why I'm relaxed and calm, now that we've gotten rid of the two coaches that didn't fit a rebuild.

1 minute ago, manz2821 said:

Jake Elliott- miss

That has a meaning on multiple levels. 

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No beat reporter, no poster has been in the Eagle draft room.

Lurie has, for every draft, and I'm sure he knows what the scouts recommended, and what the coaches lobbied for.

If he thought Howie was the problem, and he didn't want to fire him, he'd kick him upstairs and bring in a "real GM." It's been done before.

Why would Howie defer to his coaches? Because you build a roster for your coaches, if you think they're wrong, get new coaches. We did.

Mommy, Daddy get me Golden Tate... 

"I don't know how to use him." 

 

 

Mommy, Daddy get me Gerard Avery.

"Go sit over there Gerard, we'll let you know when we need you." 

 

Please.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'm not even going to give him credit for Goedert at this point. And to be honest I'm not sure how much credit he deserves for Mailata. Apparently Stoutland asked for him as a project. Its Stoutland that's worked with him not Howie. The only credit Howie deserves there is for listening, that's all. 

But that's his job. He just has to find better coaches to listen to.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

This thread is going to be good:

 

What's Lurie supposed to say?

"Howie is staying because he's an extension of me." 

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If they trade down with him on the board I will root for Dallas next year out of spite

He'll be on the board and they will take Trey Lance.

 

8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Well to be fair... Doesn't Howie deserve credit for identifying those really good players who end up being drafted before us?

Who was the best WR in this past draft?   Was it one of the guys to go before the Eagles' pick or after?

 

Who was a better WR - JJAW or the guys that went after him (Metcalf/McLauren/Slayton)?

 

What has Howie done well?  I need the list.  I haven't seen any moves that actually defend his record.

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

No rush?  If we don't hire anyone until late February it's OK.  

What is with him?  You don't want to have a staff together for pre-draft stuff (combine or not)?  He's delusional. 

Maybe they don’t want a new HC interrupting Howie’s greatness in the draft process.  Lurie already said they have a great process with Howie.  No need for a HC to just dilute it.  Get him on board late so he won’t push back against Howie.  Save that for 2-3 years down the road when he can be properly scapegoated.  

6 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'm being sarcastic bud. Sorry doesn't come across via a forum. 

I mean, it could kind of be a defense. At this point we have to hope he is capable of finding great players. He’s our GM until he dies so what choice do we have?

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Because I’m smart.  I know what I’m talking about.  And I’m not a phony bandwagon fan.  
 

And I wouldn’t say miserable.  Sarcastic and Snarky, sure.  

He is one of those " my other team " guys.

1 minute ago, Ace Nova said:

What's Lurie supposed to say?

"Howie is staying because he's an extension of me." 

I wonder if it is Wentz or Pederson. Wentz might be fine with Howie.

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No beat reporter, no poster has been in the Eagle draft room.

Lurie has, for every draft, and I'm sure he knows what the scouts recommended, and what the coaches lobbied for.

If he thought Howie was the problem, and he didn't want to fire him, he'd kick him upstairs and bring in a "real GM." It's been done before.

Why would Howie defer to his coaches? Because you build a roster for your coaches, if you think they're wrong, get new coaches. We did.

 

I think that's allowing an abdication of responsibility that is on Howie and Lurie.  A good GM, builds the best roster based on his evaluation of talent.  It should be a synthesis of what others think but not dependent on only the coaches opinion.  Coaching isn't roster building in the NFL.  That role falls on the GM.  Sure you can blame the coaches for some decisions but if the choice was Doug's to take Reagor over Jefferson or JJAW over DK someone likely made an evaluation mistake to make them choices at that point in the draft.  

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So Jalen Hurts was hurt against the Redskins. That’s what they’re going with.  LOL

yep, that's a first we've heard about a significant hamstring injury.  Oh boy this is bad.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Maybe they don’t want a new HC interrupting Howie’s greatness in the draft process.  Lurie already said they have a great process with Howie.  No need for a HC to just dilute it.  Get him on board late so he won’t push back against Howie.  Save that for 2-3 years down the road when he can be properly scapegoated.  

Howie definitely wants a coach in the room when he whiffs at pick 6.  

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Who was the best WR in this past draft?   Was it one of the guys to go before the Eagles' pick or after?

 

Who was a better WR - JJAW or the guys that went after him (Metcalf/McLauren/Slayton)?

 

What has Howie done well?  I need the list.  I haven't seen any moves that actually defend his record.

Add on diontae Johnson. Loved that kid coming out of Toledo.