All the negatives said here could apply to December 2015 when Lurie fired Chip. We had no QB, no cap space, Howie as GM, etc.

It worked out well.

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

What's Lurie supposed to say?

"Howie is staying because he's an extension of me." 

The truth. Howie is Lurie's secret love child who was conceived in a bathroom of Studio 54 after too much blow. 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So Jalen Hurts was hurt against the Redskins. That’s what they’re going with.  LOL

What's he supposed to say?

"We all wanted him benched and we wanted to play Sudfeld.  Then Doug benched him, lost the team as a result so I had to fire him today."

 

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

Did he? What if he didn’t want to go short term? What if the coach was pushing to keep certain veterans and draft certain rookies because the coach felt they could help more in the short term?

We have zero insight into any of this. Lurie does.

Doug answers to Lurie and in all likelihood Howie. Lurie apparently just sits back and let’s everything unfold and somehow Howie is always right even though he constantly defers to others? Are we supposed to believe that?

10 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Jeffrey came off as a pompous buffoon ass

He's a billionaire.  He's just keeping it real.  

19 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

You're calling Adams a box safety?

Yes because that’s exactly what he is 

7 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Jake Elliott- miss

Yep.  That contract is the poster child for terrible.   We are stuck with him, because of the cap implications.   What GM that has a clue locks himself into a KICKER after 2 years. 

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He missed on EVERY SINGLE ONE. 

Alshon Jeffery (post Super Bowl) - miss,
Mike Wallace - miss,
Desean Jackson - miss,
Malik Jackson - miss, 
Golden Tate - miss, 
Gerard Avery - miss, 
 

What move worked?  Was there one?   Other than Jordan Mailata and maybe Dallas Goedert, what moves were good?

The coaches wanted all those misses. Howie wanted the couple that worked. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Yep.  That contract is the poster child for terrible.   

It's not important, but IMO it's the worst contract on the roster. 

He only brought up Duce because he was asked about minority coaches.  So do you see Duce as a black guy or a good coach first?

 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

All the negatives said here could apply to December 2015 when Lurie fired Chip. We had no QB, no cap space, Howie as GM, etc.

It worked out well.

Yeah it only worked out well cause the giants were able to pull the rug out from under us and get mcadoo to be the HC as he was on the way to the linc to become our head coach. We are literally a phone call away by the giants from still not having a Lombardi trophy

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  Worst kind of fan.  

Coming from you and your buddy, I take that as a compliment. 

I never in my life said, "My other team".  My team's always been the Eagles.  I pay attention to the Eagles 90%+ of the time up until they are eliminated from contention.  Then I'll follow some other games/teams (like normal football fans do) for entertainment. 

You guys should get out a little more...beautiful world out there with some really awesome people. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I thought you left, bandwagon.  

You really need new material.  I think I was 12 years old last time I used that phrase. 

 

 

Please, no Bienemy or Kafka. Enough of the Reid tree BS.

Please, no Duce. I like Duce more than most and think he deserves a shot somewhere. We need an outsider though.

Please, bring in a young offensive mind like Brady or Riley, or at the very least a Brian Daboll who has helped develop an NFL QB and make him better.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

 

 

yeah, those were pathetic answers.  How dare Dallas take CeeDee Lamb.  Now we don't have a shot at Justin Jefferson.  

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

But that's his job. He just has to find better coaches to listen to.

No.  His job is to listen to his coaches and then make a decision about whether or not that is a good and prudent move.     

 

 

And who's responsible for the amount of money he's thrown around and how he's written contract structures that lock the team into these contracts?  Did Doug tell Howie to put empty years on the back end of the contracts with guaranteed dead hits?   Did the coaches tell Howie to extend players already under contract to bigger deals, when they didn't have to make the moves?  

 

The GM's job is to listen and evaluate.  If he evaluates that they can't afford something, then he needs to say, "No".  That's his job.

So what’s the end game here? If Howie is always right, why does he keep deferring? Is Lurie somehow the only guy in the building who knows this?

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

 

You guys will soon see...as evidenced today....Roseman is Lurie's voice.  They are attached at the hip.

The irony is that everyone who has been bashing Howie all year has also been (indirectly) bashing Lurie.  

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

He only brought up Duce because he was asked about minority coaches.  So do you see Duce as a black guy or a good coach first?

 

Yup. Lurie was asked about minority hiring and also hiring from within so Lurie first mentioned Duce

I don't want Duce as a HC or OC

I'd choose Chiefs OC over Duce

All that matters moving forward is a complete tear-down. Please punt on 2021 and do the complete rebuild. 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You guys will soon see...as is evidenced today....Roseman is Lurie's voice.  They are attached at the hip.

The irony is that everyone who has been bashing Howie all year has also been (indirectly) bashing Lurie.  

Some of us on here have been bashing Lurie directly and for good reason.  He just showed the world why today.  I've never felt more hopeless as an Eagles fan.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's not important, but IMO it's the worst contract on the roster. 

It absolutely is... because out of a very small number of guys, most kickers are interchangeable parts.  As a matter of fact, they found Elliott out of an emergency situation where Sturgis was injured and they needed a new kicker ASAP.  Finding Elliott in the first place is only a half a win for Howie, because they were content to start the season with Sturgis, even after Elliott was cut by the Bengals before he was signed to the PS.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

All that matters moving forward is a complete tear-down. Please punt on 2021 and do the complete rebuild. 

Complete rebuild would be with a new GM. This is half-assing it

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

All that matters moving forward is a complete tear-down. Please punt on 2021 and do the complete rebuild. 

The good thing is that we will not need to deliberately tank. 

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He'll be on the board and they will take Trey Lance.

I’ll say it right now — if Wentz ends up being traded and the Eagles end up with Hurts as QB, I’ll have both fingers crossed that Lance will be a draft option