January 12, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said: Chase reminds me of Watkins. Outside of size, Smith is a Rice clone. I have heard some draft podcasts refer to Chase as a mix of Amari Cooper and Dez Bryant. He does it all. Smith is a talent too. I wonder what are planning to do.
January 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said: Well definitely don’t want him now Hahaha. Skip Bayliss should stfu. What a slapd!ck.
January 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Re Smith v Chase...I haven't watched enough of either, yet. Sign me up for the one that separates better. If Chase is a master contested catch and physicality guy...at 6'...I have concerns. AJ Terrell was a 1st round CB, and JaMar Chase ruined his draft stock for many after the way he smoked him all night in the national championship game last year. Looking back on the highlights of that game, youll likely much prefer Smith. Terrell didnt often have terrible coverage. Chase just made the plays. Terrell was a very good player who gave up a big night but usually not a ton of separation.
January 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Only because he wasn’t able to rack up the stats. But NFL Exec don’t care that he sat out because of Covid. I think NFL Execs will not like that he only has one year of production. Having a second year of production would make him a safer pick. As it stands now, he has only one year of production and is a year removed from the game. I thought he was the best WR in the NCAA last year. But, Smith was in that discussion last year, and now he's really put a stamp on it. I don't see how a team could put Chase over Smith... except for his slight build. But, in today's NFL I see that as a far less important thing now.
January 12, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, eagle45 said: Well, this probably puts Jamar Chase in the Eagles laps at #6, for better or worse. 3 QB's, the elite LT prospect, and the best WR on the board will go top 5. You can take that to the bank. Smith just passed Chase. So Lowie will pick between Chase and the field at #6. Based on the press conference I’m expecting a trade down. They’re going to take a page out of the 6ers process IMO. Not as long spent or extreme, but same premise. Lurie calling Wentz an asset was a bit of a give away to me. I think they sell the HC position as a long term project with high job security. Basically say, hey, first year is a wash, take a look at the players, figure out who you want to keep, and implement your system. Meanwhile they take the cap problems on the chin and build up draft resources. Then the coach can either keep Wentz/Hurts or trade them next offseason and go get the new coach his hand picked guy at QB.
January 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said: AJ Terrell was a 1st round CB, and JaMar Chase ruined his draft stock for many after the way he smoked him all night in the national championship game last year. Looking back on the highlights of that game, youll likely much prefer Smith. Terrell didnt often have terrible coverage. Chase just made the plays. Terrell was a very good player who gave up a big night but usually not a ton of separation. Sounds like I would. I see separation as reliable and repeatable...making big plays in coverage gets more erratic at higher levels.
January 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, ManuManu said: Are there many instances of one-year wonders who dominate the SEC as a 19-year-old? I'm not saying there are. But, when you stack up the WRs... its hard to put Chase over Smith after this season. I'm not suggesting that Chase drops even to the #3 WR. But, I think he's clearly the #2 now, but will still be a consensus top 10 pick. He might even be a top 5, if teams don't like the QBs. I don't personally see 3 top 5 QBs in this draft... but, then again, its the QB position, so teams get silly.
January 12, 20214 yr Just now, Iggles_Phan said: I think NFL Execs will not like that he only has one year of production. Having a second year of production would make him a safer pick. As it stands now, he has only one year of production and is a year removed from the game. I thought he was the best WR in the NCAA last year. But, Smith was in that discussion last year, and now he's really put a stamp on it. I don't see how a team could put Chase over Smith... except for his slight build. But, in today's NFL I see that as a far less important thing now. may be true. But Im not sure he would have had a great season with that LSU team this year. Im not saying Burrow made him. But he benefitted from that level of QB play. And this year he would have had the type of QB play Reagor experienced at TCU, and Philly. I bet he would have hurt his stock more by playing this year actually.
January 12, 20214 yr Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? AB
January 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? AB
January 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? ive been thinking the same thing tonight
January 12, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? Antonio brown
January 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? The lunatic in Tampa.
January 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said: Catfish is gross. What?! 1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Boom! What did I win?
January 12, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: I have a Devonta Smith NFL comp for you. Same crisp route runner. Volume catcher and big play WR. On the slight side but not blazing fast. Only difference is, this guy came from a small college program and then turned crazy and ruined his career. Any guesses? AB edit: late to the party
January 12, 20214 yr Pretty good article on chase. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2021-nfl-draft-what-is-jamarr-chase-ceiling-in-the-nfl/
January 12, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Green Monster said: I see Lawrence, Fields, Seweill, Chase, Smith as the top 5 picks. I think we will need a 3rd QB (Wilson?) to get one of the WRs at 6. That is worst case, but I think it has good chance of happening unfortunately. I'd trade down and target Wyatt Davis (who is injured heading into locker room btw) - if this happens. Haven't been fully watching the game. Anyone paying attention to how he's doing tonight vs one of the best DLs in college?
January 12, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: A side of Deez Also could have went with Bofa
January 12, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, TEW said: Based on the press conference I’m expecting a trade down. They’re going to take a page out of the 6ers process IMO. Not as long spent or extreme, but same premise. Lurie calling Wentz an asset was a bit of a give away to me. I think they sell the HC position as a long term project with high job security. Basically say, hey, first year is a wash, take a look at the players, figure out who you want to keep, and implement your system. Meanwhile they take the cap problems on the chin and build up draft resources. Then the coach can either keep Wentz/Hurts or trade them next offseason and go get the new coach his hand picked guy at QB. When I actually watch these guys, I have a feeling I’m not going to be a Chase fan. With the enormous pressure on the Eagles for passing up probowl WRs, I don’t think they’ll be able to actually trade out of a position with Chase on the board. They’ll be aware that if Chase goes to the probowl as a rookie, novacare is gonna look like the US capitol last week.
January 12, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, TEW said: Based on the press conference I’m expecting a trade down. They’re going to take a page out of the 6ers process IMO. Not as long spent or extreme, but same premise. Lurie calling Wentz an asset was a bit of a give away to me. I think they sell the HC position as a long term project with high job security. Basically say, hey, first year is a wash, take a look at the players, figure out who you want to keep, and implement your system. Meanwhile they take the cap problems on the chin and build up draft resources. Then the coach can either keep Wentz/Hurts or trade them next offseason and go get the new coach his hand picked guy at QB. I have a gut feeling they're going to trade back as well. It's the smart move when you look at this roster and see how old and devoid of talent they are. However, there is no way they can feel comfortable going into next season with this WR group.