1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Notre Dame didn’t belong in the same field. 

Agreed. Most overrated program in college football

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I’ve read reports Howie had Joe Burrow above Jalen Hurts on his big board. Impressive.

Bigger question where did he have Herbert ranked compared to Tua. My guess if tua played well and Herbert didn’t then tua over Herbert. But since Herbert set records that he would’ve went Herbert 

5 minutes ago, Br3 said:

We don’t know that because the Eagles always take projects and nobody who comes in ready to ball

why does it seem like every wr Howie passes on isn’t just good, they are the best and every wr he selects doesn’t just suck they are the worst 

Maybe for the players Howie selects it also comes down to how they are used.

Let's not act like many people on here dont complain that Doug misuses guys, doesnt put them in good positions, doesnt play them to their strengths, etc.

Not saying Howie is free of blame but if you're getting players for a coach and he cant find ways to use them, maybe coaching is the bigger problem. 

McLane's article

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-eagles-doug-pederson-fired-accountable-20210112.html

This Howie stuff is perfect... because Howie can't be wrong.

 

Howie knows coaches want Player X.  So, Howie makes it clear he prefers Player Y.   Then he selects Player X.  If Player X works out, he's a genius and everyone gives him the credit (its happened right here in this blog)... but if Player Y turns out better... Then Howie has protected himself from Player X's failure.   

 

I don't want a person like that in my organization.  I want someone with convictions who will stand by his decisions and take the hit for it... right or wrong.   

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly if he wanted to date that was a ridiculous pick up. It was a redundancy of what they already had.  Like if we didn’t have Nelson Agholor I’d have been more in favor of it. While agholor wasn’t as good as tate they really needed an outside WR with any vertical stretch. They were better off dealing a 2nd for Robby Anderson tbh. Would’ve been a massive upgrade for 2018 and 2019 and you don’t get into the desean contract. And we basically blew a second on JJAW anyway 

It may have made sense if they worked him in the offense but they didn’t.  I mean he was on the team for almost half the season and he had less than 300 yards.  His production was virtually the same as Ward. 

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Maybe for the players Howie selects it also comes down to how they are used.

Let's not act like many people on here dont complain that Doug misuses guys, doesnt put them in good positions, doesnt play them to their strengths, etc.

Not saying Howie is free of blame but if you're getting players for a coach and he cant find ways to use them, maybe coaching is the bigger problem. 

Or its a problem with BOTH of them.   

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bigger question where did he have Herbert ranked compared to Tua. My guess if tua played well and Herbert didn’t then tua over Herbert. But since Herbert set records that he would’ve went Herbert 

Howie had Herbert ranked way higher but Andrew Breiner liked Tua so Howie being the #goodguy he is would have drafted Tua. Also, he was against drafting Ben DiNucci. Good thing he was here to put the kibosh on that.

Doesn't hurt that Bama is 5 deep across the board but what a brilliantly called game on offense by them.  After watching the Eagles all year seeing these plays just makes you scratch your head.  I can't even think of 5 plays this year where the Eagles put their guys in motion like this and schemed around them.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly if he wanted to date that was a ridiculous pick up. It was a redundancy of what they already had.  Like if we didn’t have Nelson Agholor I’d have been more in favor of it. While agholor wasn’t as good as tate they really needed an outside WR with any vertical stretch. They were better off dealing a 2nd for Robby Anderson tbh. Would’ve been a massive upgrade for 2018 and 2019 and you don’t get into the desean contract. And we basically blew a second on JJAW anyway 

Said it clearly yesterday.

Just now, NCiggles said:

It may have made sense if they worked him in the offense but they didn’t.  I mean he was on the team for almost half the season and he had less than 300 yards.  His production was virtually the same as Ward. 

I think the problem with incorporating him was you were already running 12 personnel a lot and he’s a slot receiver at this stage of his career. So if you’re running 12 personnel as much as we do and you already have a slot receiver in Nelson Agholor then it’s going to be a struggle to maximize him. To me that move never made sense unless you were just going to allow Agholor to leave at the end of the year and you were going to extend tate as an upgrade which they were never going to do.

As soon as Mike Wallace went down we all knew what the Eagles needed on that offense. The fact that they wouldn’t go up just one more round of a draft pick to get a guy who would’ve been a two-year replacement and potentially you could signed long-term as your outside speed receiver was ridiculous. I would have gladly spent the second to get one and a half years out of Robby Anderson and then signed him long-term so I didn’t have to make the move for an older DeSean Jackson who couldn’t stay healthy

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Howie had Herbert ranked way higher but Andrew Breiner liked Tua so Howie being the #goodguy he is would have drafted Tua. Also, he was against drafting Ben DiNucci. Good thing he was here to put the kibosh on that.

Now we got to see who is responsible for Clayton thorson. Lol

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or its a problem with BOTH of them.   

Agree but that's why I say Howie isnt free of blame.  

Not to be a football socialist, but the NCAA is doing something wrong when Alabama’s 2nd string is still by far better than any other team in CFB.

They could probably field 3 separate top 10 starting lineups.

They need to do something to disincentivize top prospects from across the country from congregating in one place for a celebrity HC.  It’s not like any of them want to live in Alabama for 3 years.  At least it made sense when Miami and USC were the flavor of the month.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Said it clearly yesterday.

I’ve been on the Robby Anderson bandwagon for like three years. I was the person all off-season last year saying you should sign Robby Anderson because his price kept dropping the longer he sat out there. I have no clue if he would’ve used him properly but I do know Anderson tends to play 15 or more games every single year and even with Sam Darnold and worse QBs as his QB and Adam Gase as his head coach he put up decent numbers

Ohio St doesn’t belong on the same field

F Herbstreit too

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the problem with incorporating him was you were already running 12 personnel a lot and he’s a slot receiver at this stage of his career. So if you’re running 12 personnel as much as we do and you already have a slot receiver in Nelson Agholor then it’s going to be a struggle to maximize him. To me that move never made sense unless you were just going to allow Agholor to leave at the end of the year and you were going to extend tate as an upgrade which they were never going to do.

As soon as Mike Wallace went down we all knew what the Eagles needed on that offense. The fact that they wouldn’t go up just one more round of a draft pick to get a guy who would’ve been a two-year replacement and potentially you could signed long-term as your outside speed receiver was ridiculous. I would have gladly spent the second to get one and a half years out of Robby Anderson and then signed him long-term so I didn’t have to make the move for an older DeSean Jackson who couldn’t stay healthy

Now we got to see who is responsible for Clayton thorson. Lol

I think you’re right that they were shifting more to 12 personnel.  It was a ridiculous decision. 

There is some simple things that make me happy.  One of them is watching Ohio State get punched in the face repeatedly. 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think you’re right that they were shifting more to 12 personnel.  It was a ridiculous decision. 

That was Dallas Goedert rookie year. I still don’t quite understand why the Eagles thought process with going to 12 personnel more when the league has been going to more fast and speed on offense and big plays. I feel like with the 12 personnel you’re gonna be methodically going down the field especially if you don’t have capable outside wide receivers that can stretch the field to allow for more big plays to your tight ends. To me the league was headed into more speed and getting more 3 to 4 wide receiver sets. Someone’s going to have to explain to me why they thought 12 personnel was going to be the next big thing in the league and make them more explosive on offense. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Now we got to see who is responsible for Clayton thorson. Lol

Clearly Groh 

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re loco 

I have a fairly significant precedent to go off of.  You want a Sheldon Brown type #2, yes he can be that.  #1 he's not.

It may not be an immediate need on defense, but man I'd love to see DT Christian Barmore an Eagle. He'll probably go in the mid 2nd round. If the Eagles do trade down from #6, maybe they could scoop him up with an extra pick. Dude is gonna kill it at the next level.

I've seen some on TV saying that Doug should be a top candidate for one of the HC openings available.

My guess is he doesnt get hired by anyone.  The league knows he's stupid and has seen how terrible his offense looks.  Not to mention all the PC and interviews he does you can tell he's a moron and doesnt know what he's doing or talking about.

3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Agree but that's why I say Howie isnt free of blame.  

Of course.  But Jeff says that Howie knows best, he just doesn't act on it.  Cause he's too busy deferring to others.  So, kind.  So, generous.  So, giving.

Does this game put Devonta ahead of JaMarr?

Man I miss the shock man. He b luvin som dayvawntay Smith ya know