I'm not buying that Doug was responsible for the draft picks when they wouldn't let him pick his own coaches. That's total BS and another cover for Howie. Howie's a cockroach!

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Whether this is true or not is unknown, But it would explain why Jeff gives Howie a pass. something I alluded to earlier. That possibly Howie was making the Moves DOUG wanted. 

 

It would explain why Doug is gone and Howie is still here. Or it's just an excuse to take heat off of Howie. 

 

 

Sure... Howie knows better and always gives way to the coaches... that's why they get along so well all the time.  Howie is just a genial guy who always gives in and lets the coaches have what the coaches want. 

Hey Doug, you want Golden Tate?   I can get him for you.   Oh, you don't know how to use him... whoops.  You're mistake. 
Hey Jim, you want Gerard Avery? I just got him.   Oh, you don't plan to ever put him on the field?   You should have told me before I traded for him.  You're mistake.  
Oh, you want to draft Jalen Reagor because he's more versatile and can be used as a returner?   Oh, you don't plan to give him punt return opportunities, even after he scores a TD on a punt return and nearly pulls a game out of the wrecker by making it possible to tie it late?   Oh... you should have mentioned that you needed a pure WR earlier.  You're mistake.

 

Nah... this is a whole lot of nonsense.  I believe that this whole SYSTEM is broken.  Keeping Howie around just looks like we'll be in a similar spot in the not too distant future.  I can't wait!

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

If they really hire a college coach I’ll definitely think Lurie has lost it. 

nah Riley would be a swing for the fences hire.

47 minutes ago, greend said:

Sure, blame it on the fired guy

Oldest trick in the book.   One guy becomes the scape goat... and its Doug.  Frankly, Doug had his pile of problems.   But, Howie had an equal pile.  If Howie is making moves based on Doug's input, then you'd think that Doug would have gotten to keep his chosen coaching staff last year... but even a day after he said that they were safe... they were gone.   Sure, Doug is the one who pulled all these strings that snapped.   Howie is just a victim of his circumstances... again!  Poor guy can't seem to catch a break.

17 minutes ago, RLC said:

If they get Dan Campbell, wow.

More then likely because Saleh is now going back to NY for his second interview which in most cases means signing his offer. Lions lost to the Jets. 

Im just hoping most teams sign there HC before the Bills are out of the playoffs to increase our chances on Daboll. The less I see his name mentioned by other teams the happier it makes me. :)

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

nah Riley would be a swing for the fences hire.

Yes but you really think he’s letting Howie be the GM. Not a chance. College coaches want total control 

47 minutes ago, metal said:

Every report I read prior to today said that Howie went against the scouts and decided to pick Reagor over Jefferson, and now this comes out. It's kinda funny the timing of it.

Doug is out... place all of your sins on him, and all will be forgiven in all of Eagledom.   

41 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Was listening to WIP on the drive in to work and they had Mike Garafalo on and he mentioned something about some of the draft picks being Doug's choice and Rhea made a good point saying "Wait.  I am to believe that the guy they wouldn't let pick his own coaching staff, that they'd let him make draft picks?".  So they can spin it how they want, but the buck ends at Howie and he/they aren't owning it.  That's poor leadership.

Yup.   It's completely bogus.    

23 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ahh yes.  Reminds me of Chip's exit.  "That draft pick was Howie's fault....no no....that was a Chip pick".  And the wheel keeps turning.    

We keep doing the same thing over and over.

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Yes but you really think he’s letting Howie be the GM. Not a chance. College coaches want total control 

Yup. And then when Howie complains to Lurie about him, Lurie will fire him as the college coach lacks emotional intelligence dealing with full grown a** men. Where have I seen this movie before....hmmmmm

I guarantee with Wentz under Lincoln RIley the Eagles would be a top 10 offense.  Mortal lock.

29 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

we can only speculate, Doug, Howie and Jeff and some inside the building, know the truth. It would explain, why Howie is still there and Doug is gone. That makes sense from that angle if it was true.If this story comes from the scouts, then it is likely true. If it comes from Jeff? Who knows. 

If it's not true. Then you have to assume, that this story is to protect Howie out of a undying love that Lurie has for him. 

Either could be true. 

Yeah... that's my assumption.   How many GMs get to go through head coaches like old underwear and still have their job?   If the coach you hired fails, then you failed.  If the free agents you signed fails, then you failed.   If the draft picks you selected fail, then you failed.   Ultimately the buck is supposed to stop at the GM.  But, LURIE wanted CHIP.  LURIE interviewed Chip, and Gus Bradley, etc.    So, Lurie is really the guy pulling the strings.  The HC and the GM both answer to the owner... that's a bizarre structure.  And its LURIE using Howie as his public shield.  Howie let's Lurie have input like he wants... and then Lurie protects Howie when Lurie's moves end up failing.  

 

Lurie is the guy to blame for this.   He doesn't want to hire a GM and let the GM do his job.  He wants a GM that he can have input with and be involved, while appearing to be hands off.   Howie is Lurie's puppet.   I think its obvious now.

20 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Well this I agree on, the contracts to Alshon and Desean were horrible, and I would agree to have sunk $15 million into RA if he would've come for that amount. But once we had the sunk costs into AJ and DJ, I think adding Anderson at more than what he got from Carolina would have been near impossible. 

Not impossible at all, as they went double down on the DT position, even though they had all that money already sunk into Cox and Malik Jackson.  So, the previously sunk cost apparently wasn't an impediment at DT, so it shouldn't have been at WR.  They just chose to go deeper at DT because they overvalued their old and busted up WRs.  But, let's put that on Doug.  I'm sure Doug preferred having another DT over a speedy WR with NFL experience.

This is so depressing....

29 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ahh yes.  Reminds me of Chip's exit.  "That draft pick was Howie's fault....no no....that was a Chip pick".  And the wheel keeps turning.    

Seems like the guy making the tweet is on Howie's PR roll.

Reports earlier suggested the scouts liked jefferson but Howie liked reagor so went with reagor 

Fishy now that pederson is gone reports come out that Howie liked jefferson and it was pederson who picked reagor when it's been well known that pederson didn't have say in much of anything 

Howie was the architect of the " Dream team" Reid got fired, Howie Hired Chip, then got put in the basement then chip got fired, howie emerges from the basement and makes a bunch of moves wins super bowl and GM of the year and we're supposed to believe that a few years later Howie was just doing what Doug wanted???

Yeah I call BS that doesn't add up even a little

Riley doesn’t seem to have the same level of arrogance Chip had, but he still will want full control over FA signings and draft picks. Can’t blame him. It’s his offense and he forgot more about football since yesterday than Howie has ever known. 
 

We’ll see.... 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

Whether this is true or not is unknown, But it would explain why Jeff gives Howie a pass. something I alluded to earlier. That possibly Howie was making the Moves DOUG wanted. 

 

It would explain why Doug is gone and Howie is still here. Or it's just an excuse to take heat off of Howie. 

 

 

I don't believe it. Just trying to make Doug the scapegoat for the draft. What's next? Doug made those horrible contracts too?

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't believe it. Just trying to make Doug the scapegoat for the draft. What's next? Doug made those horrible contracts too?

Of course he did.

I can't believe this franchise thinks the fans are going to believe that Howie preferred Justin Jefferson. I specifically remember Doug looking pissed after that selection. Then all the reports that the scouts wanted JJ. 

This guy can do no wrong. The franchise has really taken a nose dive.

So far there hasn't been an outcry of support by the current players for Doug which I find really odd for a supposed "player coach".  

 

19 minutes ago, BIGGSHAUN said:

This is so depressing....

Nah. It's a fresh start. Look what Andy did with the Chefs with a fresh start. Or it could be another Chip-saster.

3 minutes ago, phil77 said:

So far there hasn't been an outcry of support by the current players for Doug which I find really odd for a supposed "player coach".  

You can like the guy and still not think he is the best person for the job. HIs decisions regarding Alshon, JP and his play calling etc.... didn't give me confidence, can you imagine if you were a player, you knew Fulgham was your best producing wr, and doug plays Alshon in front of him?  What kind of confidence would that give you?

 

or your oline is struggling with pass blocking, you have one of the better rb's in the league and you call 55 passes to 9 runs? 

 

2 minutes ago, metal said:

 

Lol, a guy on his way for a second interview and probably signing today. 

 

Jeffery "No Rush" Lurie

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

On One hand... this is an offensive league, you need an Offensive mind at the wheel

On the other Hand.. You have something like Vrabel or Mcdermott where theyre basically hands off and the OC runs EVERYTHING, Im ok with it

Saleh as the coach and Orlovsky was the OC? Or GJ Kinne/Kafka

If Lurie goes Defense for HC, it would not surprise me if Duce is the OC. 

However I still think they go Offense for HC and this is just them doing due diligence and delaying time till they can interview a coach that is still in the playoffs.