Lurie couldn’t have been more tone deaf yesterday. He could have very easily come out and spouted a bunch of BS like "we know our drafting has spotty and we’ll get it corrected, we are putting in the work to fix this going forward.” Even if he doesn’t mean it.

But the fact that he completely and totally skirted Howie of any blame is just ridiculous. Especially when he knows how concerned everyone is with Howie.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

No.  I heard Mac Jones is a really nice and cordial fella.  So definitely worth the reach in the 2nd round.  

Mac Jones isn't a "reach" in the 2nd round.  He'll probably be a mid-late 1st round pick.  And no, I wouldn't take him in the 1st round. 

Thank you, Seth...

 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Lurie couldn’t have been more tone deaf yesterday. He could have very easily come out and spouted a bunch of BS like "we know our drafting has spotty and we’ll get it corrected, we are putting in the work to fix this going forward.” Even if he doesn’t mean it.

But the fact that he completely and totally skirted Howie of any blame is just ridiculous. Especially when he knows how concerned everyone is with Howie.

I honestly don't know with these guys sometimes. I think they live in their own bubble totally secluded from talk radio, newspapers, twitter, social media, etc. I don't think they give any of that stuff the time of day or any attention. The only voices they probably hear are those within the organization. You'd like to think they're aware of the poor drafts, free agent signings, and contracts, but I really don't think they're as aware as they should be. 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Lurie couldn’t have been more tone deaf yesterday. He could have very easily come out and spouted a bunch of BS like "we know our drafting has spotty and we’ll get it corrected, we are putting in the work to fix this going forward.” Even if he doesn’t mean it.

But the fact that he completely and totally skirted Howie of any blame is just ridiculous. Especially when he knows how concerned everyone is with Howie.

Agreed.  He was on the high horse about how he wants everyone to be accountable.  He went to Schwartz and asked him about the poor defensive performance in the SB after the win.  So by those standards why has he not gone to Howie over the years about why has his picks been so bad?  If hes buying the BS Howie is giving him as how the other people are to blame then Lurie is just delusional and lost his marbles.

P.S  I like these new boards.  I feel we can probably  talk more freely about ownership than the previous ones. 🙂

 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Thank you, Seth...

 

Competition is healthy.  Remember when Chip wanted Jason Peters to compete for a starting LT job.... Good times

1 minute ago, manz2821 said:

Agreed.  He was on the high horse about how he wants everyone to be accountable.  He went to Schwartz and asked him about the poor defensive performance in the SB after the win.  So by those standards why has he not gone to Howie over the years about why has his picks been so bad?  If hes buying the BS Howie is giving him as how the other people are to blame then Lurie is just delusional and lost his marbles.

P.S  I like these new boards.  I feel we can probably  talk more freely about ownership than the previous ones. 🙂

3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I honestly don't know with these guys sometimes. I think they live in their own bubble totally secluded from talk radio, newspapers, twitter, social media, etc. I don't think they give any of that stuff the time of day or any attention. The only voices they probably hear are those within the organization. You'd like to think they're aware of the poor drafts, free agent signings, and contracts, but I really don't think they're as aware as they should be. 

Oh they know, trust me. They have specific people in the organization who monitor social media and the airwaves to assess fan and media sentiment. Not just for that, but to keep an eye on things on how the organization is perceived. Lurie just has his head up his ass.

4 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Agreed.  He was on the high horse about how he wants everyone to be accountable.  He went to Schwartz and asked him about the poor defensive performance in the SB after the win.  So by those standards why has he not gone to Howie over the years about why has his picks been so bad?  If hes buying the BS Howie is giving him as how the other people are to blame then Lurie is just delusional and lost his marbles.

P.S  I like these new boards.  I feel we can probably  talk more freely about ownership than the previous ones. 🙂

Yes, he acknowledged other failures, but didn’t even acknowledge the draft failures. He said stuff like he could write a book about all the guys Howie wanted to draft.

What???

Interesting take...

 

8 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Thank you, Seth...

 

Seth has a little hard on for Wentz, not sure, maybe it is just qbs in general but he clearly has had an issue. I used to follow him on twitter, but he is irrational at times. Great LB. Meh on the rest

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Yes, he acknowledged other failures, but didn’t even acknowledge the draft failures. He said stuff like he could write a book about all the guys Howie wanted to draft.

What???

I absolutely despise when they talk about guys they could’ve drafted. There’s plenty of teams that could have drafted guys and did not. I don’t hear them every time they have a press conference about their bad pick saying well we were going to draft this guy or we wanted this guy but it didn’t happen. If you really wanted that guy the trade up and get them so you know you have them. Don’t you feed me this BS you wanted this the guy.

that’s the draft. You don’t get every single guy you want and you better have a better plan then well we just missed out so we were doomed at that point. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

Seth has a little hard on for Wentz, not sure, maybe it is just qbs in general but he clearly has had an issue. I used to follow him on twitter, but he is irrational at times. Great LB. Meh on the rest

But he's not wrong here to be fair. If Carson thinks he's the right man to start in Philly then go win the battle. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I absolutely despise when they talk about guys they could’ve drafted. There’s plenty of teams that could have drafted guys and did it. I don’t hear them every time they have a press conference about their bad pic saying well we were going to draft this guy or we what is this guy but it didn’t happen. If you really wanted that guy the trade up and get them so you know you have them. Don’t you feel to be this BS you wanted this the guy.

that’s the draft. You don’t get every single guy you want and you better have a better plan then well we just missed out so we were doomed at that point. 

It’s a really bad look. It makes Lurie look awful that he would just excuse that. What else would you judge a GM on then? Imagine a coaching telling an owner they "almost won” there’s no difference. You either win as a coach or you don’t. And as a GM you either get the right players or you don’t.

Thats why sports is great, it’s a meritocracy... or at least it should be.

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But he's not wrong here to be fair. If Carson thinks he's the right man to start in Philly then go win the battle. 

I got no issue with what ever QB competition .... If Wentz cant beat out Hurts, then he deserves to sit. 

15 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But he's not wrong here to be fair. If Carson thinks he's the right man to start in Philly then go win the battle. 

 

He is wrong because it will divide the locker room.  It isn't about Wentz or Hurts it is about the team not just one position.  We have people that believe in Hurts and we have people believe in Wentz will cause a natural divide within the locker room which isn't a winning enviornment for a football TEAM.  It is at the point that no choice isn't a winning choice we need to pick one and move on.  Hurts wins the job and has a bad game the Wentz side of the locker room will start to complain.  Wentz wins the job and has a bad game the Hurts side of the locker room will start to complain.  You can't build a winning culture like that and that is not fair for a new coach to step into.  Hire a new coach and let him pick which one he wants and move forward. 

21 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's pretty damning stuff there.   I don't want him around this football team.

I do. Lincoln Riley is a great Offense mind that put up staggering numbers at OU. He also is great with QBs. 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It’s a really bad look. It makes Lurie look awful that he would just excuse that. What else would you judge a GM on then? Imagine a coaching telling an owner they "almost won” there’s no difference. You either win as a coach or you don’t. And as a GM you either get the right players or you don’t.

Thats why sports is great, it’s a meritocracy... or at least it should be.

The amount of excuses the Eagles use for poor drafting is simply amazing. I am tired of hearing we were going to draft Russell Wilson and they snatched him from us. No they didn’t. You had three picks in the top 60 to take Russell Wilson. You thought taking Kendricks and Vinny curry were better value than the quarterback that you so "desperately loved”. You’re full of crap and you try to run it to make yourself look smart like you knew he would be great. If you were smart as you think you were you would’ve taken him with one of those three picks knowing another team could snipe him before your third round (4th selection) 

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

But he's not wrong here to be fair. If Carson thinks he's the right man to start in Philly then go win the battle. 

Seth is wrong here.  QB needs to be the leader, and there are zero winning NFL teams that are confused as to who the leader of the offense is.  
 

QB competition in training camp is nothing but a distraction to the team.  It sounds fine to say "competition makes everyone better”, but looking over your shoulder every time you throw an INT or lose a game late in the 4th quarter doesn’t make anyone better.  Players in the locker room giving takes to the media on who the QB should be doesn’t make the team better.

You’re making the new head coach’s job much more difficult by telling him "hey, we’ve got two really good QBs here”.  No head coach wants to answer that same question 10 times per week.  Perhaps if Lincoln Riley told Hurts his role was the backup QB, they have enough of a rapport to make it work.  No one else would.

16 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Interesting take...

 

Yes but how is his emotional intelligence?  Is he someone the players will like, play hard for?

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The amount of excuses the Eagles use for poor drafting is simply amazing. I am tired of hearing we were going to draft Russell Wilson and they snatched him from us. No they didn’t. You had three picks in the top 60 to take Russell Wilson. You thought taking Kendricks and Vinny curry were better value than the quarterback that you so "desperately loved”. You’re full of crap and you try to run it to make yourself look smart like you knew he would be great. If you were smart as you think you were you would’ve taken him with one of those three picks knowing another team could snipe him before your third round (4th selection) 

And then they routinely compound their mistakes by drafting guys they shouldn’t have drafted to make up for guys they almost got but missed out on. Taking the slow JJAW, so then going speed in 2020 and taking Reagor over Jefferson.

Missing out on Russell Wilson so taking Hurts.

Taking Sidney Jones with an injury so passing on Metcalf who had an injury question.

They allow past mistakes to mess up future decisions all the time.

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Yes but how is his emotional intelligence?  Is he someone the players will like, play hard for?

Well he should deliver as his dad is the founder of FedEx. 

Applies to the Eagles as well of course:

 

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

And then they routinely compound their mistakes by drafting guys they shouldn’t have drafted to make up for guys they almost got but missed out on. Taking the slow JJAW, so then going speed in 2020 and taking Reagor over Jefferson.

Missing out on Russell Wilson so taking Hurts.

Taking Sidney Jones with an injury so passing on Metcalf who had an injury question.

They allow past mistakes to mess up future decisions all the time.

They tend to overcompensate for what is missing on their team in one off-season instead of trying to build it up over time. So they wind up getting into these positions where they’re just going all In and ignoring other issues there also on this team. I’ve just come to the conclusion this team is way further away from the Super Bowl than they were at the end of chip Kelly’s era and at the end of Andy Reid. At least at the end of those two eras you had guys entering their prime or in their prime or young guys who you saw potential from. This team what Fletcher Cox, lane Johnson, Zach Ertz type of guys do they have for their next era? Goedert who’s not exactly the epitome of health. A running back in sanders who also has nagging injuries. Dillard who’s unproven. Mailata who’s solid and has good upside. Sweat who’s a nice rotational DE. Reagor maybe? That’s about it. The rest of the young guys they have are either unproven or marginal players. That is not nearly enough to be a Super Bowl contending team. You are so far away with the young talent on this roster compared to teams that are going to be competing for a Super Bowl for the next 2 to 3 years

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Applies to the Eagles as well of course:

 

The Texans must be trying to reconcile things with Deshaun Watson. That was one of the coaches he wanted them to interview and i believe they weren’t going too